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#1 BURYRAMBLERS

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:37 PM

just curious to know wether anyone has witnessed any trouble or potential trouble
over this last few seasons with supporters and whos the hooligan element clubs in the lower leagues.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:42 PM

Down at Torquay funnily enough, minor scuffles with their SS Stewards! Other than that, I've not been to enough games this season to comment but there's always an element that comes with Bradford, no matter where we are

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:44 PM

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:49 PM

Down at Torquay funnily enough, minor scuffles with their SS Stewards! Other than that, I've not been to enough games this season to comment but there's always an element that comes with Bradford, no matter where we are



ye bury fans had shit with torquay stewards and undercover police in with the bury fans aswel

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:53 PM


Down at Torquay funnily enough, minor scuffles with their SS Stewards! Other than that, I've not been to enough games this season to comment but there's always an element that comes with Bradford, no matter where we are



ye bury fans had shit with torquay stewards and undercover police in with the bury fans aswel


It's because Torquay use the same company that sorts out the doormen on a night out there. So when we played Torquay, there were only a few police and lots of these security men. Ended up boiling over after one of them pushed one of our fans off the wall at the front!:nono:

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:16 PM

We tend to have a group of 20 or so teenagers intent on causing trouble at local games but I think if they were ever challenge then they'd bottle it and do a runner.

Rarely any trouble at Lincoln games, home or away.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:22 PM

We tend to have a group of 20 or so teenagers intent on causing trouble at local games but I think if they were ever challenge then they'd bottle it and do a runner.

Rarely any trouble at Lincoln games, home or away.


I'd go with that, the older lads seem more bothered about the day out and having a laugh than anything else these days.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:25 PM

We tend to have a group of 20 or so teenagers intent on causing trouble at local games but I think if they were ever challenge then they'd bottle it and do a runner.

Rarely any trouble at Lincoln games, home or away.



Bury seem to have a large hooligan element over the last few seasons..
early eighties we didnt..just about ten to twenty.
but this season alone i know they took a double decker bus and a single bus load of hooligans to burton,hoping they had some hooligans,which they didnt have.
they took a coach of hooligans to shrewsbury and alot of other places.
but aint seen much trouble.
the police seem to follow them

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:44 PM

just curious to know wether anyone has witnessed any trouble or potential trouble
over this last few seasons with supporters and whos the hooligan element clubs in the lower leagues.


Oh dear.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:47 PM

Got some like 14 year old chavs who have a whole tub of gel in their hair biggin up that they are going to do bristol rovers firm in :S

Actully does my head in the chavs, should round them up and shoot them

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:48 PM

We haven't got a youth firm, just a few older lads who behave sensibly and don't go around making an arse of themselves so I'm not embarrassed by them or anything like I would be with a gang of kids. Very rarely seen trouble over the years. Kicked off with Wednesday in a pre-season friendly in 1999 and Swansea in 2000. During our first season in the Championship we had minor scuffles with Gillingham, West Brom and Man City. That's it really.

In 2007 Bradford fans kicked up a fuss over a coach full of Rotherham fans thinking they were hooligans, even though families and kids were on board. Earlier in the season Bournemouth tried starting with some of our fans but failed to get a reaction.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:58 PM

The last bit of bother was handbags at ten paces with the chimp chokers a couple of seasons back, it seems to be a thing of the past now.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:59 PM

We haven't got a youth firm, just a few older lads who behave sensibly and don't go around making an arse of themselves so I'm not embarrassed by them or anything like I would be with a gang of kids. Very rarely seen trouble over the years. Kicked off with Wednesday in a pre-season friendly in 1999 and Swansea in 2000. During our first season in the Championship we had minor scuffles with Gillingham, West Brom and Man City. That's it really.

In 2007 Bradford fans kicked up a fuss over a coach full of Rotherham fans thinking they were hooligans, even though families and kids were on board. Earlier in the season Bournemouth tried starting with some of our fans but failed to get a reaction.

I'm guessing they were a group of kids?

I think most clubs have their small groups of lads around teenage years who think they're 'wellhard' and want to be a firm. We have one such group of lads who take the old firm name of BCE. A bit embarrassing really. I don't think they've ever caused anyone any harm, just makes numpties out of themselves.

Aldershot are the worst I've come across in recent years, blokes of all ages get rather angry at us coming to town. Charging at Police lines, throwing coins or whatever else they can etc. I've known a few fans who have been on the receiving end of a battering in Aldershot, although it wasn't as bad this year as it was last. Last season was most unpleasant.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:11 PM

In our first season down here I was surprised at how prevalent it was, particularly with the Youth. There were a few major flare ups of note that season, both home and away - Bury, Rochdale, Lincoln, and Grimsby spring to mind. Not a lot changed last season either. It appears to have calmed down a lot this though Have seen almost nothing so far this season. I think the Police have finally really clamped down on the Youth, plus their old base has been shut down.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:12 PM

We've got some young guns coming through but I don't theink they're up to much. It's just kids having fun, until they day they bowl into the wrong pub

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:15 PM

I've never seen any trouble.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:23 PM

Fifteen replies and not one 'nawty'?! Posted Image

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:38 PM

I've see quite a few scuffles this season.

Burnley, Barnsley and York in pre-season.

Port Vale in the Cup.

50 'known trouble makers' caused havok for police/staff at Shrewsbury.

A coach load were stopped and turn back just outside Grimsby for the second season running.


To be honest, West Yorkshire police have seemed to have nipped it in the bud - Especially these last few season's.

The last time the Ointment made an appearence was at Rochdale 2 season's ago where over 200 made the trip after an organised 'off' with Bolton and Rochdale was arranged.

But the vast majority of complete nutters are banned and have been issued radius orders after the trouble against Aberdeen and Tottenham in 2003 - See Video below.

(OT coming up the hill)

Bradford Vs Aberdeen

There was trouble in Wibsey last season when Rotherham made the trip. The Bradford lad in the blue t-shirt got 2 years for his antics.

Bradford Vs Rotherham

The scene has calmed down a lot over the last few years, but there will always be an hardcore following from Bradford wherever we go.






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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:44 PM

I'm guessing they were a group of kids?

Who, our lot? If us, it was lads in their 20's and 30's just enjoying a drink. The B'muff lads went off as soon as they realised they weren't interested.

There was trouble in Wibsey last season when Rotherham made the trip. The Bradford lad in the blue t-shirt got 2 years for his antics.

Bradford Vs Rotherham

Yep, what I was on about. Shame for the fat bloke to get 2 years inside for attacking a coach full of normal fans, families and children. What was to gain?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:48 PM


I'm guessing they were a group of kids?

Who, our lot? If us, it was lads in their 20's and 30's just enjoying a drink. The B'muff lads went off as soon as they realised they weren't interested.

There was trouble in Wibsey last season when Rotherham made the trip. The Bradford lad in the blue t-shirt got 2 years for his antics.

Bradford Vs Rotherham

Yep, what I was on about. Shame for the fat bloke to get 2 years inside for attacking a coach full of normal fans, families and children. What was to gain?



This wasn't a coach load of genuine Rotherham fans, though. This was a group of Rotherham lads intent of trouble - Hence why they went to the main, prime spot in Bradford were there are a lot of Ointment. You have to take into account that the distance from VP to Wibsey is about 5 miles - Your lot knew exactly what they were doing and they ran into trouble.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:50 PM

in years gone by .. i remember
bury playing halifax and leeds and huddersfield matches were postponed.
leeds fans teamed up with halifax and huddersfield with bury.
fighting all the way through the match.
scunthorpe police telling bury fans " run for your lifes " years ago after the match..
i remember cardiff city lads running bury .... bury lads running chester city and york city

recently ...
bury fans beating bradford fans up in bury..
and then alot of trouble after the game between both fans

bury fans being frogmarched and made to walk home from rochdale before they caused trouble.

before the home match with rochdale,bury fans waited for rochdale fans
there was alot of bury -over 100-- and about 30 fail fans got off the bus
the police came straight in with dogs,vans and cameras and escorted the fail fans away.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:53 PM

I've see quite a few scuffles this season.

Burnley, Barnsley and York in pre-season.

Port Vale in the Cup.

50 'known trouble makers' caused havok for police/staff at Shrewsbury.

A coach load were stopped and turn back just outside Grimsby for the second season running.


To be honest, West Yorkshire police have seemed to have nipped it in the bud - Especially these last few season's.

The last time the Ointment made an appearence was at Rochdale 2 season's ago where over 200 made the trip after an organised 'off' with Bolton and Rochdale was arranged.

But the vast majority of complete nutters are banned and have been issued radius orders after the trouble against Aberdeen and Tottenham in 2003 - See Video below.

(OT coming up the hill)

Bradford Vs Aberdeen

There was trouble in Wibsey last season when Rotherham made the trip. The Bradford lad in the blue t-shirt got 2 years for his antics.

Bradford Vs Rotherham

The scene has calmed down a lot over the last few years, but there will always be an hardcore following from Bradford wherever we go.






yes ive watched that bradford v aberdeen one before
got a big firm bradford.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:59 PM



I'm guessing they were a group of kids?

Who, our lot? If us, it was lads in their 20's and 30's just enjoying a drink. The B'muff lads went off as soon as they realised they weren't interested.

There was trouble in Wibsey last season when Rotherham made the trip. The Bradford lad in the blue t-shirt got 2 years for his antics.

Bradford Vs Rotherham

Yep, what I was on about. Shame for the fat bloke to get 2 years inside for attacking a coach full of normal fans, families and children. What was to gain?



This wasn't a coach load of genuine Rotherham fans, though. This was a group of Rotherham lads intent of trouble - Hence why they went to the main, prime spot in Bradford were there are a lot of Ointment. You have to take into account that the distance from VP to Wibsey is about 5 miles - Your lot knew exactly what they were doing and they ran into trouble.

Yes it was. I know people who were on the coach, and they're certainly not hooligans. I stopped off in Cleckheaton before Bradford last year, does that mean I wanted trouble there?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:09 PM

I wouldn't **** with Barnet personally.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:10 PM

What a pathetic thread. Is the OP after a pat on the back or something?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:13 PM

Each club should have its own firm area away from the ground enclosed by police and what goes on in there stays in there, no further punishment, if your in their its because you want to be there, as long as you don't threaten those innocent fans whoever wants to be 'nawty' can do in my book.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:15 PM

Each club should have its own firm area away from the ground enclosed by police and what goes on in there stays in there, no further punishment, if your in their its because you want to be there, as long as you don't threaten those innocent fans whoever wants to be 'nawty' can do in my book.


I agree that if you're there it's because you want to be, but it's the fact these knuckle dragging mongs think they are somehow representing their club that really gets to me.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:16 PM

pwopa nawtee (just before someone else does it)

..well sort of.

anyway, firms are full of neanderthalic lamebrains who should find another hobby.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:19 PM

Each club should have its own firm area away from the ground enclosed by police and what goes on in there stays in there, no further punishment, if your in their its because you want to be there, as long as you don't threaten those innocent fans whoever wants to be 'nawty' can do in my book.


What? So GBH, ABH, Assualt and even the possibility of murder should be allowed in a controlled area? You're opening up a whole sociological can of worms here.

I'm sure someone will disagree with me, and no doubt label me a post Euro 96 mong (or something equally orginal) but violance has no place in football. If you want to fight, get into boxing or sod off down the pub and look at a big bloke funnily.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:26 PM


Each club should have its own firm area away from the ground enclosed by police and what goes on in there stays in there, no further punishment, if your in their its because you want to be there, as long as you don't threaten those innocent fans whoever wants to be 'nawty' can do in my book.


What? So GBH, ABH, Assualt and even the possibility of murder should be allowed in a controlled area? You're opening up a whole sociological can of worms here.

I'm sure someone will disagree with me, and no doubt label me a post Euro 96 mong (or something equally orginal) but violance has no place in football. If you want to fight, get into boxing or sod off down the pub and look at a big bloke funnily.



No I agree with you, but I can't see a football without violence in the future. The point of this is that it protects the innocent, the only ones to suffer are those willing to give it out in the first place and in my opinion they deserve no protection from the law.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:32 PM

No I agree with you, but I can't see a football without violence in the future. The point of this is that it protects the innocent, the only ones to suffer are those willing to give it out in the first place and in my opinion they deserve no protection from the law.



Would never work. They will still drink in the same pubs as real fans and if they fancy it they'll just kick off in there. These people don't have the mental ability to know right from wrong so why would they they be bothered if innocent people get in their way? They are neanderthal scum who have no repect for decent human beings.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:33 PM

No I agree with you, but I can't see a football without violence in the future. The point of this is that it protects the innocent, the only ones to suffer are those willing to give it out in the first place and in my opinion they deserve no protection from the law.


Fair enough.

The problem is, if you allow a minority to do it, then everyone will think it's acceptable. You wouldn't be able to control it.

There will always be football violence, but never to the scale of what it once was.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:37 PM

This thread is extremely pathetic.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:40 PM

Yes it was. I know people who were on the coach, and they're certainly not hooligans. I stopped off in Cleckheaton before Bradford last year, does that mean I wanted trouble there?



No, it wasn't.

Why would a supporters coach still be in Bradford well after the game was called off? I think you're thinking of another game entirely, Millerman.

Wibsey is nearer to bleeding Halifax than Valley Parade. Those lads in question from Rotherham knew exactly what they were doing and were there for one reason only. In the end it turned out to be a bad idea. Posted Image

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:44 PM

This thread is extremely pathetic.



pathetic ?
its obviously drawing intrest
you are looking

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:45 PM

This thread is extremely pathetic.


Pretty good read i think.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:47 PM

pathetic ?
its obviously drawing intrest
you are looking


He's merely passing comment on a thread being pathetic due to the headline. This is a football forum, not a place for sad little chavs to exchange links of mongy behaviour like holiday snaps.

There's forums for pathetic individuals that like to act the big hard man at matches. Go and post your drivel on them.

Pretty good read i think.


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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:48 PM


pathetic ?
its obviously drawing intrest
you are looking


He's merely passing comment on a thread being pathetic due to the headline. This is a football forum, not a place for sad little chavs to exchange links of mongy behaviour like holiday snaps.

There's forums for pathetic individuals that like to act the big hard man at matches. Go and post your drivel on them.


Shrruup Kel you boring frontbum.

Also, nice of you to judge folk who you've never met and never will meet in your lifetime.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:49 PM

Thread descends into a Dale vs Bury slanging match in 5, 4, 3, 2...

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:51 PM

Shrruup Kel you boring frontbum.

Also, nice of you to judge folk who you've never met and never will meet in your lifetime.

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I'd rather not meet those type of people thanks. Isn't calling me a "boring frontbum" a judgement of someone you're never likely to meet?

I'd rather be boring than a sad case who thinks football hooliganism is ok. Like yourself clearly.




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