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Premier League to the rescue apparently with £125m to the EFL and National League. Unclear if it's a loan or not...
According to 5live last night National League clubs will get £58000 each from this - equivalent to 4-6 weeks wages they said.
 

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Spoke to a friend who's quite well in with some of the officials at Notts and they were pretty confident that this season will be completed but that next season could well be truncated with the possibility of teams playing each other once depending on when football is resumed.
Just talk obviously but it looks like that's the way Notts are thinking of concluding this season and I'm guessing that is partly based on conversations with other clubs.
 

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I'm struggling to figure out how some teams in League One survive this. The majority of first team players will be on far more than the £2.5k monthly limit so cannot realistically furlough playing staff but will have no income to pay these players. Will they be able to just release players from their contracts without paying compensation?
Sunderland, for example, are paying Will Grigg £15-20k per week. If Burnley say they will run out of money come August if the PL is still not operating, what chance the rest of us.

The footballing landscape is going to look very different in the future. Maybe some lowly, well-run clubs will benefit.
 

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Sunderland, for example, are paying Will Grigg £15-20k per week. If Burnley say they will run out of money come August if the PL is still not operating, what chance the rest of us.

The footballing landscape is going to look very different in the future. Maybe some lowly, well-run clubs will benefit.
I don't know if you've seen the new series of the Sunderland documentary on Netflix but Sunderland's approach to signing Grigg on deadline day was ridiculous. They paid over 3 times what they thought he was actually worth, having made 6 bids, and never considered making a bid for anyone else on the day - no wonder they got screwed on his fee and probably his wages too!
 

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I don't know if you've seen the new series of the Sunderland documentary on Netflix but Sunderland's approach to signing Grigg on deadline day was ridiculous. They paid over 3 times what they thought he was actually worth, having made 6 bids, and never considered making a bid for anyone else on the day - no wonder they got screwed on his fee and probably his wages too!
Manager told them not to as well as he isn't really that good.
 

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And the Scout who was in the same room!!

I mean it was basically the chairman going through it on his own.

Wonder if that goes on at many other clubs?
 

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And the Scout who was in the same room!!

I mean it was basically the chairman going through it on his own.

Wonder if that goes on at many other clubs?
It was Richard Hill, the ex-Eastleigh manager who once said they were the "Real Madrid of non-league", or words to that effect. Amazing that he was Donald's main football adviser.
 

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So who actually was the ‘money’ behind the 2 ex-scummers? He reckoned the club cost £40m to buy and, using that scale, he hasn’t got a pot to piss in. Trying to flog Sunderland already the greasy ponce.
 

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interesting to see a Ryman team has already done their retained list for next season

http://kentishfootball.co.uk/news/ramsgate050420
They're a Step 4 club and given their lowly position in the table I would imagine they have a fairly skinny budget and none (or very few) of their players are under contract. Player registration forms for the new season are never available until a couple of weeks before the first league match, so it's presumably just a list of players who've indicated a willingness to stick around. It's unlikely any of them have signed anything yet.
 

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So who actually was the ‘money’ behind the 2 ex-scummers? He reckoned the club cost £40m to buy and, using that scale, he hasn’t got a pot to piss in. Trying to flog Sunderland already the greasy ponce.
I think they effectively bought it by handing over the PL parachute payments, and with Ellis writing off the rest of his debt, it cost them very little, if anything.
 

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It was Richard Hill, the ex-Eastleigh manager who once said they were the "Real Madrid of non-league", or words to that effect. Amazing that he was Donald's main football adviser.
Donald came across as very half-arsed I thought. Like it wasn't really something he could be bothered doing long-term.

The other guy was Billy Bullshit but it did look like he had a clue at least and had a vision of what he wanted which was basically Adagio for Strings on loop at all times. Mad for it he was.

It was unbelivably cringe watching them both commentate during games, neither of them had a clue what they were on about really. They were just spouting nonsense you'd hear some idiot down the pub shouting, pretending they knew better than a football manager.
 

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Donald came across as very half-arsed I thought. Like it wasn't really something he could be bothered doing long-term.

The other guy was Billy Bullshit but it did look like he had a clue at least and had a vision of what he wanted which was basically Adagio for Strings on loop at all times. Mad for it he was.

It was unbelivably cringe watching them both commentate during games, neither of them had a clue what they were on about really. They were just spouting nonsense you'd hear some idiot down the pub shouting, pretending they knew better than a football manager.
Methven looked like he was going to have an aneurysm during that Checkatrade Trophy final.
 

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I've only got as far as the Will Grigg bit but they were proper taken for the mugs that they are over that deal.

Methven is just a sloany condescending posh twat with a vision, Donald I didn't mind all that much but $astleigh is more his level than a club that size.

Wish Pools had more players like Luke O'Nien though, credit to his trade that lad.

Oh and that run out music, surely can do better than some cheesy trance anthem. Best I've heard was at a Dutch second tier game. FC Volendam had Brainbug - Nightmare, that was quite an intimidating track for AZ Alkmaar's B team to run out to.
 

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I've only got as far as the Will Grigg bit but they were proper taken for the mugs that they are over that deal.

Methven is just a sloany condescending posh twat with a vision, Donald I didn't mind all that much but $astleigh is more his level than a club that size.

Wish Pools had more players like Luke O'Nien though, credit to his trade that lad.

Oh and that run out music, surely can do better than some cheesy trance anthem. Best I've heard was at a Dutch second tier game. FC Volendam had Brainbug - Nightmare, that was quite an intimidating track for AZ Alkmaar's B team to run out to.
I have nightmares about those tight red trousers Methven was wearing.
 

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No surprise that Methven went to Eton. The bewildering misplaced confidence those people have in their own ability never fails to impress.
Says he loved the area then walked out a few months later.

BTW they clearly didn't think Ross was that bad as he wasn't sacked till October?
 

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They only lost 2 of the first 40 games and lost in 2 Wembley finals, on penalties and then in the last minute.

I know the aim was the title probably with their resources but did he really do that bad a job? I'm just judging it on the results tbh, maybe his style of play was simply awful. This season they are hardly pulling up trees either since he went.
 

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They only lost 2 of the first 40 games and lost in 2 Wembley finals, on penalties and then in the last minute.

I know the aim was the title probably with their resources but did he really do that bad a job? I'm just judging it on the results tbh, maybe his style of play was simply awful. This season they are hardly pulling up trees either since he went.
They got a lot of draws, most of them because they'd score then shut up shop then the oppo would nick a late equaliser. They underestimated the level, L1 is a good standard. They just went ahead then rested on their laurels every week. With the players they had they should be winning that league several times over, but Ross was too cautious with some of the players lacking the right mentality to see them through games.
 

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Methven seemed competent and was probably right about the culture at the club before he joined and had some good ideas. His narcissism though was pretty grating at times.

Donald seemed like he viewed Sunderland as a 1-2 year project, come in, get rid of all the mercenaries on big contracts, cut costs and sell at an increased value as a Championship club the following year. The last point was clearly a stumbling block and he ludicrously panicked over Grigg without finding an alternative.

What's the deal with Ellis Short? I always thought Sunderland's collapse was due to him not putting enough money into the club, but it looks like like it was there and was just blown by a succession of very poor managers and allowed to worsen by him just not being there.
 

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I think they did spend big under him for a while but he stopped funding the club.

Then as you say the club never heard from Ellis Short.

Micky Gray seemed to suggest he did go to games last season though.
 

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h, maybe his style of play was simply awful. This season they are hardly pulling up trees either since he went.
Maybe too defensive I guess ?

But then they appointed Phil Parkinson who I understand isn't known for his free flowing style of football.
 

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Oh and that run out music, surely can do better than some cheesy trance anthem. Best I've heard was at a Dutch second tier game. FC Volendam had Brainbug - Nightmare, that was quite an intimidating track for AZ Alkmaar's B team to run out to.
I was cringing hard when they were saying being in the Stadium of Light ten minutes before kick off should feel like being in a super club in Ibiza.

I dread to think what the vision would have been for Eastleigh if a documentary was made about them.
 

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I was cringing hard when they were saying being in the Stadium of Light ten minutes before kick off should feel like being in a super club in Ibiza.

I dread to think what the vision would have been for Eastleigh if a documentary was made about them.
I’m sure Eastleigh Fan would have been given a starring role.
 

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