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There was a thread on the Voldermort board but I haven't seen a similar one here.

Anyway, tonight is the Berks and Bucks Cup Semi Finals.
Maidenhead United vs Chesham United
Marlow vs Aylesbury

I'm planning on being at York Road for the Maidenhead game, they're probably favourites for the cup being the only Conference South in the competition.
 

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We're home to Hayes and Yeading tonight in the Quarter Finals of the Middlesex Senior Cup. I guess we're favourites too as the highest ranked team left in the competition.
 
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Amusing how Hayes & Yeading play in a different County Cup to Maidenhead United, despite playing at the same ground. (Though there are obvious reasons for that!)

A few of my friends go to watch Wealdstone. I like it down there.

Will be interesting to see how many games are on this evening as it's a bit chilly...
 

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We were knocked out of the Surrey Senior Cup early on in a humbling 2:1 reversal against Combined Counties Premier side Badshot Lea, however, since I take a keen interest in the local county competitions I'll pop the full competition line up in this post like I did in the old forum days...

1st Round
1. Carshalton Athletic (Isthmian D1 S) 1:2 Egham Town (Southern D1 C)
2. Croydon (Combined Counties Premier) 0:0p Colliers Wood United (Combined Counties Premier)
3. Merstham (Isthmian D1 S) 2:1 Whyteleafe (Isthmian D1 S)
4. Raynes Park Vale (Combined Counties Premier) 2:0 Chertsey Town (Combined Counties Premier)
5. South Park (Isthmian D1 S) 2:1 Guildford City (Combined Counties Premier)

2nd Round
6. Lingfield (Sussex County D1) 0:1 Westfield (Combined Counties Premier)
7. Raynes Park Vale (Combined Counties Premier) 1:2 Redhill (Isthmian D1 S)
8. Chipstead (Isthmian D1 S) received a bye to the 3rd Round
9. Godalming Town (Southern D1 C) 2:4 Mole Valley SCR (Combined Counties Premier)
10. Knaphill (Combined Counties Premier) 0:3 Colliers Wood United (Combined Counties Premier)
11. Metropolitan Police (Isthmian Premier) 1:0 Walton & Hersham (Isthmian D1 S)
12. Epsom & Ewell (Combined Counties Premier) 1:0 Camberley Town (Combined Counties Premier)
13. Leatherhead (Isthmian Premier) 2:1 Farnham Town (Combined Counties Premier)
14. Merstham (Isthmian D1 S) 3:1 Beckenham Town (Southern Counties East)
15. Molesey (Combined Counties Premier) 1:0 Egham Town (Southern D1 C)
16. South Park (Isthmian D1 S) 1:4 Sutton United (Conference South)
17. Walton Casuals (Isthmian D1 S) 1:2 Corinthian-Casuals (Isthmian D1 S)
18. Badshot Lea (Combined Counties Premier) 2:1 Kingstonian (Isthman Premier)
19. Dorking Wanderers (Sussex County D1) 9:0 Frimley Green (Combined Counties Premier)
20. Tooting & Mitcham United (Isthmian D1 S) p2:2 Horley Town (Combined Counties Premier)
21. Woking (Conference Premier) 0:3 Ashford Town (Middx) (Combined Counties Premier)

3rd Round
22. Merstham (Isthmian D1 S) 2:1 Sutton United (Conference South)
23. Westfield (Combined Counties Premier) 0:2 Redhill (Isthmian D1 S)
24. Dorking Wanderers (Sussex County D1) 3:4 Colliers Wood United (Combined Counties Premier)
25. Molesey (Combined Counties Premier) 3:1 Epsom & Ewell (Combined Counties Premier)
26. Leatherhead (Isthmian Premier) 2:3 Ashford Town (Middx) (Combined Counties Premier)
27. Metropolitan Police (Isthmian Premier) 3:0 Chipstead (Isthmian D1 S)
28. Tooting & Mitcham United (Isthmian D1 S) 3:1 Mole Valley SCR (Combined Counties Premier)
29. Corinthian Casuals (Isthmian D1 S) 1:4 Badshot Lea (Combined Counties Premier)

Quarter Final
30. Molesey (Combined Counties Premier) v Badshot Lea (Combined Counties Premier) - Date T.B.C.
31. Metropolitan Police (Isthmian Premier) 2:1 Tooting & Mitcham United (Isthmian D1 S)
32. Colliers Wood United (Combined Counties Premier) v Merstham (Isthmian D1 S) - 18/02/2015
33. Ashford Town (Middx) (Combined Counties Premier) 3:1 Westfield (Combined Counties Premier)

Semi Final
34.
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Final
36.
 
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a few 3rd round results added to the Surrey Senior Cup tree... also put in the QF ties.

My god it's looking more tin pot then usual! When the Metropolitan Police FC are the highest ranked team left in a competition that's when you know it's been a messed up season.
 
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I'm going to York Road tonight for the Berks & Bucks Semi FInal - Maidenhead United vs Chesham United. Home side the favourites.
 

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We beat Stourbridge 2-0 tonight in the Worcestershire senior cup. Lee Hughes scoring on his second debut. And the second goal has gone to either Wright (Who I don't think it was)/Verma/Knowles and it could have been either of those two

Worst part was Gittings limping off in the second half
 

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Corinthian Casuals beat our youngsters on penalties in the London Senior cup. So much for us defending our title.

As some wag pointed out on our guestbook, our only chance of silverware now is winning the League two play-off final. Yeah, right!
 

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Corinthian Casuals beat our youngsters on penalties in the London Senior cup. So much for us defending our title.

As some wag pointed out on our guestbook, our only chance of silverware now is winning the League two play-off final. Yeah, right!
How comes you didn't enter the Surrey Senior Cup with the Womblets this year?
 
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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
 

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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
We treat the Surrey Cup (& London Cup when we enter it) as a chance for the youngsters & fringe players to get game time. Our match squads get stronger as we progress through & depending on the level of opposition.

We take them semi-seriously as it presents one of our best chances of silverware... plus in the Surrey version you get to visit loads of nice county club grounds (& Sutton) so it's worth going through a few rounds just for that, not so much the London cup though - most teams from that play in shit holes.
 
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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
We've tended to take the Essex Senior relatively seriously given we won it a couple of years back though the Ryman Cup is normally a competition purely for fringe players. Having said that we've put out strong sides in both competitions this season purely because our league form has been so poor and these competitions give more opportunity for the players to gel and work on their form.

Definitely helping as defensively we've improved significantly although goals still present a problem.

We're out the Ryman Cup but play the semi of the Essex Senior next Tuesday (24th) .. home to Concord Rangers.
 
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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
We used to when we re-formed, probably up until the early 00's - We used to take 2,500+ to the finals and once pulled in a crowd of 6,500 for a Hampshire Cup tie against Farnborough. Since we turned full time it's been a competition for the youth/reserves... To my knowledge we haven't come close to winning it for a while.
 

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We've tended to take the Essex Senior relatively seriously given we won it a couple of years back though the Ryman Cup is normally a competition purely for fringe players. Having said that we've put out strong sides in both competitions this season purely because our league form has been so poor and these competitions give more opportunity for the players to gel and work on their form.

Definitely helping as defensively we've improved significantly although goals still present a problem.

We're out the Ryman Cup but play the semi of the Essex Senior next Tuesday (24th) .. home to Concord Rangers.
I never really know whats going on in the Essex Senior, Southend have never taken it seriously in my life time, nor Col U, I take it Dag & Red are the same since becoming a league team. We seem to flop from a youth team to a team of stiffs, or outcasts. Or just not bothering to enter a team at all.

One of the most embarassing performances of the last 15 years came when said stiffs and outcasts got thumped by a Chelmsford reserve side. There were literally players not even running during the game. Barrington Belgrave being one the the worst offenders never played for Southend again due to his 'preformance' that day. This season a mix of youth and reserve lost 4-2 to Harlow Town, inspiring.
Even some of the non-league teams don't seem that interested, I really wonder sometimes as to why it's even still going.
 

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We've won the Cumberland cup 6 times in the last 13 years, although we don't take it seriously and I don't think we ever field senior players unless they're returning from injury or are a way out on the fringes of the squad although a number of our current senior squad played in it during their academy years and Paddy Madden scored in the final a few years back. We won one final a couple of years back 8-1 despite fielding no players over the age of 18. There's just such little competition, quite telling really that the second most successful team in the cup's history are Gretna.
 

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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
We probably should given our current status as a step 5 team. But we don't. The worst thing is the teams we play, they do care, way too much.

Last season the (then) Wellingborough Town manager Craig Adams, made a massive fuss about how they beat us in two of these meaningless cup competitions (the second being the UCL Knock Out Cup, that glorious institution...). This was all in the build up to the Christmas/New Year Dog and Duck Derby (tm)*. We thumped them in those games (well one got called off, but we also won the replayed fixture).

*Just an FYI for anyone still unaware, this isn't a disparaging nickname, it's because we ground share. The ground really is called the Dog and Duck.
 

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The West Riding Challenge Cup apparently takes a fee from the league teams that avoid playing in it, making Town the biggest club in the competition. When we won it the other year at Valley Parade it felt like we did just for the shiggles. 120 minutes of friendly-level bilge before Gareth Seddon let off a screamer for the sake of it. A trestle table was wheeled out, the team posed with the trophy and a cardboard "West Riding FA" sign for literally no more than a second, and we all went home. Guiseley parade it more than that (as it's them most often winning it), whereas I'm sure it'd be a bigger thing still to the likes of Ossett Town or Barnoldswick (NB: the WRCC goes by pre-'70s West Riding boundaries). It's still very much a thing on the side for all those teams as far as I'm aware, all fans I knew in the glue league at the time really not rating their county cups even if they got a Tranmere youth team in the semi-finals or whatever. It's worth appreciating that most of the players in the WRCC are amateur/£50 a week and in the NLP1N alone you're entered into the county cup, the FA Cup, the FA Trophy, the League Challenge Cup and the League Presidents Cup. You're putting a game practically every available Saturday/Tuesday together with a full-time job. I think at that level a team's more likely to play Saturday/Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday in a given week than Saturday/Saturday. It's a daft malarkey really.
 

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We used to take it seriously, but last time we did that and fielded practically a full first team, we got embarrassed by Not Police in the LSC final. Now we have a thriving academy and the county cups (London and Surrey) are perfect for our youngsters and first teamers returning from injury.

We got our revenge on Not Police last season in the LSC final with nearly all youngsters, a few of whom are now breaking into the first team squad.
 

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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
Our final has been switched to October the past few seasons. It's still a massive deal though, because it gives Lincoln fans a legitimate opportunity to crtiticise our fans for going to away matches which they can't usually justify doing with league games. :tomf:
 

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How much do fans generally care about county cups? The consensus in Cheshire is that Conf and even Conf North teams don't give a shit and it's a nuisance mid-season. If it was played as a preseason competition like in Lincs everyone would view it much more favourably.
I think this sums up our attitude towards it. Our 45 year old assistant manager and Aspin (49) both played for us...
 

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We now face Worcester in the final of the Worcestershire Senior Cup after they beat Redditch on penalties 5-4 after a 0-0 draw
 

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Some interesting Surrey Cup results:

The last 3rd Round tie saw the conquerors of the mighty K's, Badshot Lea, scalp another (less) higher ranked team in Corinthian-Casuals 4:1 in Tolworth!

A couple of QF ties already played...

Ashford Town (Middx) 3:1 Westfield
Not Police 2:1 Tooting & Mitcham

If Not Police win this & do a tinpot double by getting promoted to the Conference South I'm giving up on life.
 

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Just a question - is Not Police short for say, Nottingham Police, or is it just a normal team who class themselves as anti-establishment?

Cheers.
Not Police is the universally used name by local non league fans for the MetropolItan Police football team due to the majority of them not actually being police men
 

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