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2 handballs and about a yard over the line, then bounces half a yard over the line on its way back. Cheated. That's clear cut evidence of corruption. The ref for clearly seeing the handballs and not giving a penalty, and the linesman for not giving the clear goal. Like I say, we were poor...but...

It gets worse. He's quite clearly handballed it to get the ball to bounce back with that force...but then it bounced on its way back and was still way over the line. This is as the ball is heading back. Its cheating. No other way it can be explained. Cost us 2 clear points today that could be...

No two ways about it, that linesman has to be sacked. Its not incompetence it's blatant cheating. Its not even marginal. I get we were poor today, but we rode the storm first half, great goalkeeping at times, got the clean sheet, and were robbed by the linesman of a valuable 2 points. Smash and...

Another problem with games in hand is people add the points (if won) based on the current table / points standing. By the time they're played, could be a completely different situation. Other teams could have had games postponed by then too. Don't think Walsall's game has even been arranged yet.

Guess who. Do you wear glasses.

Don't get me started

Some see it as a derby, some don't, but cup final? Grow up. Home crowd was down today for obvious reasons. But ultimately we've just had a 10k home attendance and a 9k home attendance in hurricane conditions. Both on TV, ruined by Sky. Not long ago we were getting 5 or 6k for home games v...

Walsall deserved the win based on two key moments in the game. The goal was very fortunate the way it landed in the way it did, but Matt deserved a bit of luck the way he battled for the ball. Poor defending from us, and Ripley has to be disappointed not to force it over. Then there's...

I woke my daughter up too, also got a bollocking . Curtis scored a header v Fleetwood. I feel a bit for Tolaj, Paton and Curtis. This rotation system works to an extent, but think that's why we've scraped 1 nils. Eventually you're going to be on the wrong end of one and get it wrong. For it to...

Last two seasons we took ok numbers there on a Saturday, but otherwise in the past we'd have taken 200 down there for a week night match, especially with it being on telly and with so many games throughout December. Almost 500 isn't a bad effort.

Is that last sentence a little bit of shit stirring after LVs comment re Crewe? Fair play if so. Good summary that, Si. Draw was fair tonight. Frustrating that it took going behind to wake us up. 1st half was even but we showed a couple of times we had a bit of quality, but wasteful and...

471 Vale at Cheltenham

Attendances discussed in the....attendances thread. Sorry mate.

Last night's point now seems even better than it did last night. No harm done now, still in a great position.

Obviously hope that happens with the Walsall and Crewe loanees, but it doesn't always work out for players recalled and moved elsewhere. Let them carry on developing and enjoy a season not every professional gets to experience. Surely better for their development that way. Alfie Devine a prime...

That was the opposite end of the pitch to the Vale fans though. These lads ran away from their own fans to head to a load of pensioners who never said boo to a goose

Byers and Garrity in there last night we win that comfortably

Not my opinion to be honest, just clarifying for the Notts fan what LV was saying, as despite being told 14 times he wasn't referring to the goal celebration, he kept going on about it. The only thing that I thought was a bit OTT and embarrassing was players like Cooney coming over to the...

No, you misunderstood me and it appears you're still misunderstanding the celebration comment. The quote function was a suggestion for you to back up your claim that "evidently" you're not the only one going on about over celebrating a goal. Not one Vale fan has said Crewe fans over celebrated a...

Leeds Valiant said he found the end of the game celebrations a bit OTT. But otherwise, no Vale fan is knocking Crewe for celebrating a goal in injury time ‍ No freeze frame or video evidence required, there's a quote function that will suffice...give it a go