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  1. J

    Club size in order

    Your post is interesting and 99% well-argued, but this made me do a double-take. Who in their right mind could argue that Newcastle, with their mediocre history in which the last of their trophies was in 1955, the last of their 4 league titles was in 1927 with only 6 other top 3 finishes and...
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    Club size in order

    Salford can eff off to hell and they're in a league of their own as far as doping and shafting the ethos of lower league football is concerned, but you FGR lot are being unbelievably disingenuous. You absolutely did dope your way out of the Conference in a manner only three or four sides have...
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    Club size in order

    As others have mentioned the worst thing is that they changed the colours to match the corporate colour scheme of their owners energy company - they're Ecotricity Marketing FC in all but name.
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Isn't Lakeside reasonably accessible as well?
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    Club size in order

    While your location is not good I don't think it's quite as bad as ours. Don't you benefit from your proximity to Scotland and perhaps the greater attractiveness of the English leagues to lower-level Scottish Players? I assumed you also have a slight benefit from genuinely big North-east clubs...
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    Club size in order

    Not having a dig at our rivals, but I would say Newport would definitely have been bigger than Torquay and probably still are. Their attendances have been on a par, but Newport have more third tier seasons since the fourth tier was created, even though they folded and were out of the League for...
  7. J

    Worst town in the National League.

    Mick Jagger famously comes from Dartford. His family were affluent and middle-class, so you'd imagine it used to be much nicer. There are much nicer places nearby there days like Sidcup, Bexley village and Chislehurst, with good access via fast roads. I imagine a fair few people have moved...
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Grays was a horrible place too. Bizarrely they were financially doped high-fliers when we we were in the Conference. We played them at home in a 1st v 2nd match believe it or not and got a 6k attendance IIRC. Fantastic football team in that era - a few of that side went on to better things. I...
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Harlow is weird. There are really nice bits that could almost be in the country and then you stumble into the appalling, dystopian town centre. Our post-war town planners should be shot - and those already dead should be dug up and shot.
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    Worst town in the National League.

    A swathe of that part of South/South-East Essex is absolutely horrific. Basildon is one of the most depressing places I've been to and Canvey/Benfleet are even worse, if only because Basildon at least has a reasonable amount of shopping etc. Much different than say Brentwood, let alone the...
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    Club size in order

    In the last fifty years Plymouth have only spent 13 seasons in the 2nd tier. In the last thirty years they've spent the same time there as Stockport. Much of Plymouth's 2nd tier history took place when there were only three divisions and the majority of it took place in years closer to the...
  12. J

    Club size in order

    Well that's undoubtedly true. The problem is that Plymouth have a group of fans who insist they're big in absolute terms, not just relatively speaking. They argue they are a natural top-flight team and at least as big as say, Barnsley and Blackpool.
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    Club size in order

    Plymouth isn't a big city - medium-sized perhaps, but not big. Like most settlements in Devon & Cornwall it has no conurbation, or urban sprawl. Consequently it's Urban Area population - the true size of the city as opposed to abitrary city boundaries that in most cases haven't been revised for...
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Must be well over a decade since I've been to the Shay, but remember feeling Halifax was slightly surreal (in a good way) with that honey-coloured stone everywhere. Dramatic countryside on the route of the connecting train as well.
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Lightning fast & frequent trains to St Pancreas though - it probably isn't much harder to get to the West End from Borehamwood than where I live and I'm considered Central London. so there isn't really any need to hang around in Borehamwood itself. Not that it would matter to the casual long...
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    Worst town in the National League.

    I think that might explain why the bus was nonsensically late after the game. That and the exodus from out-of town centres at the same time. Seriously, anyone booking a train from Yeovil junction and who doesn't want to pay for a taxi should factor in a long walk to the town centre to get a bus...
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Having grown up mainly in nice parts of Surrey and affluent Exeter, plus brief stints in Essex and East London and having lived in Notting Hill for years this is what always strikes me - the almost obscene disparity in wealth between some parts of the north and some parts of the South. I don't...
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Chesterfield's not a bad place, but the trek to the ground is a pain compared to Saltergate, which was central. Only passed Fylde on the way to Bloomfield Road from Preston station - I got the bus once just to look around. Not much there from what I saw.
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    Worst town in the National League.

    Christ - what a ridiculous place to put a train station. For some reason a few places on that line suffer the same problem. Apparently Crewkerne is another one where you almost need a train to get to the station to catch a train. I believe Yeovil had a city centre station where the newish...
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