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You have to find a picture from over 10 years ago where there wasn't a defender nowhere near him, good argument.

Yeah just quote that bit and ignore the rest where I say he's the complete footballer. Your obviously a Messi fan boy so I'll leave it there.

See how much of a threat Messi is when you put a cross in the box. Ronaldo has everything for the complete player including power and strength and always turning up in big matches.

Think that puts the Ronaldo Messi debate to bed I'm afraid. Ronaldo is just on another planet to anybody who's stepped on a football field.

Diving cheating c*** the player who won the free kick for goal, never a foul.

Uruguay look terrible in midfield and Suarez doesn't look sharp either so far. Hope Salah comes on half time to liven things up a bit.

Birmingham Middlesbrough Leeds

Pickford Trippier, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Young Lingard, Henderson, Dele Kane, Rashford

Opening day - Villa (h) Boxing day - Preston (a) Final day - Hull (h)

I'm sure we were paying players like Halford, Blackstock and Odemwingie close to 10k last time in championship, are you sure we're on a 5k wage cap?

Par for us would be quarters but we are capable of winning if we got our act together and play well as a team. I reckon us Croatia, Portugal and Columbia are the bottom sides of a group who could surprise and go and win the tournament if that makes sense.

Ipswich are one of those clubs were there not gonna get promoted any time soon but will stay well clear of relegation, I thought Hurst would have held out for a more ambitious job tbh unless he just thinks it could be a stepping stone for a more attractive job in the future.

No!

Terrible WUM, need to start trying better fishing tackle in future lad.

And no millers fan gives a fuck, we didn't bottle it in the playoffs and go promoted.

I seriously doubt we will unless we have another abysmal season. Are the ticket prices still the same next season? We would take 4k minimum every time if we having an average season and reasonable ticket price.

Think we spent something like 26 years of our history in 2nd tier and most of our time in 3rd so I would say we're a 3rd tier club going on 2nd if anything.

Just like their club.

Saying that Fleetwood aren't that tiny

Back we're we belong! We don't have to travel to mickey mouse clubs next season like Accrington, Fleetwood and Donny, UTFM!