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and Connor Brown - so it will be one or both of those he was trying to tap up.
Steve Whiston wants hitting with an FA charge and banning from the game - as do any other agents acting in similar ways....
A we cannot sign any Barrow player until summer 2022......B Connor Brown would be 5th choice right back behind
Kioso,Jones, Brockbank and Hickman.....I really dont think we need another right back
 

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A we cannot sign any Barrow player until summer 2022......B Connor Brown would be 5th choice right back behind
Kioso,Jones, Brockbank and Hickman.....I really dont think we need another right back
it's not tapping up as in trying to sign - it's tapping up to try and get team information/tactics - the same thing that far east bookmakers have been caught doing before - it's highly illegal and should Barrow put in a complaint and the FA uphold it the Agent would be banned for life.....
 

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it's not tapping up as in trying to sign - it's tapping up to try and get team information/tactics - the same thing that far east bookmakers have been caught doing before - it's highly illegal and should Barrow put in a complaint and the FA uphold it the Agent would be banned for life.....
I dont know about it being illegal as the would be no financial gain, certainly immoral....Needs clearing up one way or the other. Was that in the official chairman notes??
 

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I dont know about it being illegal as the would be no financial gain, certainly immoral....Needs clearing up one way or the other. Was that in the official chairman notes??
yes - from the Walsall programme
 

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Well either Evatt got to come out and distance himself ie change agent or the fa need to get involved.

Needs the fa to be involved one way or another...
 

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Well either Evatt got to come out and distance himself ie change agent or the fa need to get involved.

Needs the fa to be involved one way or another...
the game needs to do away with agents completely
 

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If the agent was not a complete idiot it would be impossible to prove unless the Barrow chairman is in the habit of taping his phone calls.

Casey
 

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With ten games played by most, experimental 361 has started posting more graphics again.
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Seems the Barrow fans have a point that their performances have been much better than results

Also, having seen these sort of charts a lot over previous seasons, it seems that there are a lot of teams concentrated right in the middle compared to usual. Mansfield, not terrible it would seem and their fans did say that early season performances were pretty good but have worsened since. Newport and Cambridge, value for thier good starts, though Cambridge are still scoring far more goals than their creativity would suggest; a genuine purple patch.
 

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Really does highlight how shit we are.
 

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With ten games played by most, experimental 361 has started posting more graphics again.
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Seems the Barrow fans have a point that their performances have been much better than results

Also, having seen these sort of charts a lot over previous seasons, it seems that there are a lot of teams concentrated right in the middle compared to usual. Mansfield, not terrible it would seem and their fans did say that early season performances were pretty good but have worsened since. Newport and Cambridge, value for thier good starts, though Cambridge are still scoring far more goals than their creativity would suggest; a genuine purple patch.
it was pretty much the same last season;-

1st 9 games P9 W2 D1 L6 (but playing well)
then we started winning....
the rest was P28 W 19 D6 L3
 

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With ten games played by most, experimental 361 has started posting more graphics again.
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Seems the Barrow fans have a point that their performances have been much better than results

Also, having seen these sort of charts a lot over previous seasons, it seems that there are a lot of teams concentrated right in the middle compared to usual. Mansfield, not terrible it would seem and their fans did say that early season performances were pretty good but have worsened since. Newport and Cambridge, value for thier good starts, though Cambridge are still scoring far more goals than their creativity would suggest; a genuine purple patch.

I'm not 100% clear on what I'm looking at, but I think it backs up the fact that we've missed quite a few absolute sitters, most of which would have won us a game or gained us a draw. The performances have most been decent, but stupid mistakes have cost us big time.
Like this table suggests, I really feel we should have a few extra points on the board.
 

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it was pretty much the same last season;-

1st 9 games P9 W2 D1 L6 (but playing well)
then we started winning....
the rest was P28 W 19 D6 L3
Hope its more of a Evatt trait than a Barrow
 

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I'm not 100% clear on what I'm looking at, but I think it backs up the fact that we've missed quite a few absolute sitters, most of which would have won us a game or gained us a draw. The performances have most been decent, but stupid mistakes have cost us big time.
Like this table suggests, I really feel we should have a few extra points on the board.
xG, too advanced a concept for most non-league types but you'll get used to it.

It's basically a improved version of simply measuring shots for and against as it assigns value to shots based on the probability of an average striker scoring from that area of the pitch. Ben Mayhew, the guy who runs e361 maintains that it is better than any other stat for predicting which teams are likely to kick on and which teams aren't.
 

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Didn't think Bolton had been playing well though.
Played both Barrow and Cambridge off the park [statistics prove this] Same two players at fault in both those games for conceding goals......Same two at fault Saturday.
 

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Played both Barrow and Cambridge off the park [statistics prove this] Same two players at fault in both those games for conceding goals......Same two at fault Saturday.

Well done on having lots of possession against us. You were still no better than us, hence the scoreline.
 

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Played both Barrow and Cambridge off the park [statistics prove this] Same two players at fault in both those games for conceding goals......Same two at fault Saturday.
playing well in two games out of ten does not a decent start to the season (in terms of performances) make.
 

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playing well in two games out of ten does not a decent start to the season (in terms of performances) make.
Not having a settled team is not helping.....Complete new team started in our first game of the season
Think the penny finally dropped on Evatt how good a player Darcy is. Injuries have hit us bad but i wont ever have that as a excuse.
 

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Played both Barrow and Cambridge off the park [statistics prove this] Same two players at fault in both those games for conceding goals......Same two at fault Saturday.
absolutely deluded if you think you played Barrow off the park - you were very very lucky to get a point in Fergie time...
 

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I wonder... with lockdown starting again on Thursday will that mean masi51 will be at home and on here 24/7 again like the summer?
 
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Not having a settled team is not helping.....Complete new team started in our first game of the season
Think the penny finally dropped on Evatt how good a player Darcy is. Injuries have hit us bad but i wont ever have that as a excuse.

But you told us that because they had such a long pre-season they would be extra ready. More ready than any other team.

You can't have it both ways.
 

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But you told us that because they had such a long pre-season they would be extra ready. More ready than any other team.

You can't have it both ways.
Find it hard to disagree.......fair point
 

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absolutely deluded if you think you played Barrow off the park - you were very very lucky to get a point in Fergie time...
Barrow 39% Bolton 61%.....possession
shots Barrow 6 Bolton 8
Shots on target Barrow 3 Bolton 6
corners Barrow 3 BOLTON 6

Facts dont lie.....you scored with your only three shots on target.....ffs if we had a keeper we would beat you 9/10 times



The only stat you beat us on was bookings 4 against our 2

Dirty northern Bastards
 

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Barrow 39% Bolton 61%.....possession
shots Barrow 6 Bolton 8
Shots on target Barrow 3 Bolton 6
corners Barrow 3 BOLTON 6

Facts dont lie.....you scored with your only three shots on target.....ffs if we had a keeper we would beat you 9/10 times

they do though... up to and including that game you'd had over 50% possession in every game apart from Harrogate - and that was at that stage the only game you had won....
 

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they do though... up to and including that game you'd had over 50% possession in every game apart from Harrogate - and that was at that stage the only game you had won....
So you are saying those stats are not a true reflection of our game...yes/no ???
 

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yes - you were lucky to be on the same pitch as Barrow for large parts of the game....
Deluded....sooner we are out of this lge and its crackpot tinpot town/teams the better
 

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Barrow 39% Bolton 61%.....possession
shots Barrow 6 Bolton 8
Shots on target Barrow 3 Bolton 6
corners Barrow 3 BOLTON 6

Facts dont lie.....you scored with your only three shots on target.....ffs if we had a keeper we would beat you 9/10 times



The only stat you beat us on was bookings 4 against our 2

Dirty northern Bastards

We should have been 4-1 up after 30 mins and you wouldn't have come back. What your stupid stats don't show is that one team had to risk everything and attack for over an hour, while the other team's strategy was to sit on the lead and barely commit anyone to attacks. Obviously that gamble didn't pay off, but it's why the stats are skewed. We were pissing it and then sat back.

Nobody except for you came away thinking Bolton deserved to win.
 

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We should have been 4-1 up after 30 mins and you wouldn't have come back. What your stupid stats don't show is that one team had to risk everything and attack for over an hour, while the other team's strategy was to sit on the lead and barely commit anyone to attacks. Obviously that gamble didn't pay off, but it's why the stats are skewed. We were pissing it and then sat back.

Nobody except for you came away thinking Bolton deserved to win.
give over go back to YOUR comments on this forum while the match was on.....you thought you would lose this at both 2-0 and 3-1 up
 

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