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Seeing as quite a few folk seem to take great interest in our finances, makes you wonder where they were when we were selling half our squad (including record fees) whilst the club plummeted down the leagues.

I don't remember the concern then......or is it only when money is being spent, and potentially detrimental to their own team's fortunes when it becomes an issue?
The same thought has crossed my mind plenty of times whilst we’ve been signing these players since JR came in..

What was it we recouped between 2014 and 2016? £4.5m according to Chesterfield FC - Transfers 15/16 (Detailed view) with sales such as Liam Cooper, Sam Clucas, Tendayi Darikwa etc...

Whilst sweet FA of that was put back into the football club by those leeches we had as owners, all whilst we were in free fall through the leagues.
 

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The reason there’s a bit of animosity towards Chesterfield is the furlough thing, that’s it. Doesn’t matter who it was, any club doing (or at least publicly admitting it) that and then signing lots of players was going to get hammered, probably deservedly.
 

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True, the alternative is other loans to get by at less favourable rates. It's a no brainer really to take the loan offered as opposed to one from the bank, the local councils or whatever and pay more interest etc.

It's a gamble, but not one that will go massively wrong like in previous years with players on silly money, long contracts like we've had to battle from the last 3 years thanks to Martin Allen, Dean Saunders, Gary Caldwell etc. Like mentioned our wage bill and budgets have reduced YOY, and will do so again next year according to the board. We're no longer signing journeymen after a paycheque on 2/3 year deals we're taking better players, with potential for re-sell on lower wages from the lower leagues (this kid from Vale aside)
Not seen any official figures about how many of the 23 NL took on loans.
I know we haven't and whether clubs clubs will have to reduce budgets over the next few seasons
 

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Not seen any official figures about how many of the 23 NL took on loans.
I know we haven't and whether clubs clubs will have to reduce budgets over the next few seasons
I've not seen many announce it, not sure why we went public to be fair.

We need to reduce our budget regardless, it's around £1.2m with a 2 or 3 legacy contracts from the FL on 2k+p/w that need addressing in the summer. Luckily they were all out of contract, Rowley has resigned on significantly reduced terms apparently and I expect Weston to do the same, and Evans to be released.
 

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The reason there’s a bit of animosity towards Chesterfield is the furlough thing, that’s it. Doesn’t matter who it was, any club doing (or at least publicly admitting it) that and then signing lots of players was going to get hammered, probably deservedly.
Is the furlough thing really that difficult for people to understand STILL???

Those players placed on furlough could not be moved out as a result of the Connie North and South being canned.... if that didn’t happen, they would have moved out either on loan/perm and they wouldn’t have needed to be furloughed?

It is literally that simple. If we’d done anything wrong we’d have faced sanctions from the FA, which we haven’t, as we’ve done nothing wrong. You can question whether it’s immoral or not, but why should the club have to suffer by having to pay players who we were all set on moving out before a decision was taken that was out of their hands (to scrap the leagues below), just to prevent some fans of other clubs being a little bit upset? Would be absolute madness
 

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Is the furlough thing really that difficult for people to understand STILL???

Those players placed on furlough could not be moved out as a result of the Connie North and South being canned.... if that didn’t happen, they would have moved out either on loan/perm and they wouldn’t have needed to be furloughed?

It is literally that simple. If we’d done anything wrong we’d have faced sanctions from the FA, which we haven’t, as we’ve done nothing wrong. You can question whether it’s immoral or not, but why should the club have to suffer by having to pay players who we were all set on moving out before a decision was taken that was out of their hands (to scrap the leagues below), just to prevent some fans of other clubs being a little bit upset? Would be absolute madness

Whether it’s allowed or not, morally right, morally wrong doesn’t really matter - that’s why you’re getting criticism. Not because you’re Chesterfield.

My personal view is that clubs should be allowed to use the furlough system, these being unprecedented and difficult times for all of them. I also think that doing so should mean they’re put under a transfer embargo other than for loanees and non-contract players.
 

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Is the furlough thing really that difficult for people to understand STILL???

it's not about understanding, it's about the opportunity for some people to fight the good fight....prove they're a great moral, upstanding person of the world.

Personally, i couldn't give a shit if Notts County, Sutton or Wealdstone place players on furlough, that's something that really has no bearing on me.
 

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Seeing as quite a few folk seem to take great interest in our finances, makes you wonder where they were when we were selling half our squad (including record fees) whilst the club plummeted down the leagues.

I don't remember the concern then......or is it only when money is being spent, and potentially detrimental to their own team's fortunes when it becomes an issue?

For me its just interesting because its an unusual step for a club once they go trust run (I know your set up is a little different to the usual fan owned model) as accruing debt is usually the last thing that happens under that sort of ownership, and particularly during a time when there is no gate revenue and other clubs are cutting their budgets. Im just curious to see what happens.

I would assume its all part of a calculated risk and I have no doubt the board know what they are doing.
 

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it's not about understanding, it's about the opportunity for some people to fight the good fight....prove they're a great moral, upstanding person of the world.

Personally, i couldn't give a shit if Notts County, Sutton or Wealdstone place players on furlough, that's something that really has no bearing on me.
That’s my stance on it also, could not give a monkeys what any other club does, strange that so many take such a vested interest in us.

The question is, would they be so interested if we were still languishing down towards the foot of the table as oppose to being in and around the play off picture.... I’d probably suggest not.
 

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That’s my stance on it also, could not give a monkeys what any other club does, strange that so many take such a vested interest in us.

The question is, would they be so interested if we were still languishing down towards the foot of the table as oppose to being in and around the play off picture.... I’d probably suggest not.

I suspect they would - Barrow got a hammering, including from their own fans, for doing exactly the same thing in League Two.
 

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I've not seen many announce it, not sure why we went public to be fair.

We need to reduce our budget regardless, it's around £1.2m with a 2 or 3 legacy contracts from the FL on 2k+p/w that need addressing in the summer. Luckily they were all out of contract, Rowley has resigned on significantly reduced terms apparently and I expect Weston to do the same, and Evans to be released.
I found a tweet from Ollie Bayliss in late March.£ 6800000 of loans is been given to 20 step 1 and 2 clubs.No clubs are named but your club must have took one of the bigger loans ( 1 million plus).
I am assuming that is separate from the wages for furloughed players?
 

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For me its just interesting because its an unusual step for a club once they go trust run (I know your set up is a little different to the usual fan owned model) as accruing debt is usually the last thing that happens under that sort of ownership, and particularly during a time when there is no gate revenue and other clubs are cutting their budgets. Im just curious to see what happens.

I would assume its all part of a calculated risk and I have no doubt the board know what they are doing.

I can't pretend i'm smart enough to be in line with every aspect of our ownership or finance model but i do think, rightly or wrongly that the trust wouldn't make decisions that place the club at risk.

Maybe we are rolling the dice a bit in terms of signings this season in an attempt to get promotion but i would hope we're still budgeting as if that won't happen.
 

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The loan repayments are very favourable but I'm pretty sure each Club will have had to prove they needed what they were asking for rather than using it as a cheap loan facility and taking advantage. Chesterfield presumably have larger overheads so it's no surprise they accessed it at a higher level than others.

On the furlough thing, if the players furloughed were already out on loan in the NLN/NLS when it was cancelled then I could understand using the scheme but it shouldn't have been used for out of favour players who weren't out on loan at the time, especially if it was then used to free up the budget to bring others in. Anyone doing that should have been embargoed.

They've not done anything wrong as such, but it's a morally wrong bending of the scheme IMO.
 

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I found a tweet from Ollie Bayliss in late March.£ 6800000 of loans is been given to 20 step 1 and 2 clubs.No clubs are named but your club must have took one of the bigger loans ( 1 million plus).
I am assuming that is separate from the wages for furloughed players?
Will be separate I assume. The Halifax fan said they had 500k, not sure if from the gov loans or elsewhere
Think we only have 1 on furlough now, a couple are out on loan again.
 

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Not a signing, but we've released Elliott Durrell. Sounds like he's had a falling out with Keates.

Hes been hugely disappointing this season. No loss.
 

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Feels like a big marquee signing. Good bloody riddance.
 

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Not a signing, but we've released Elliott Durrell. Sounds like he's had a falling out with Keates.

Hes been hugely disappointing this season. No loss.
That fucker won you a jammy 3 points at ours, it was very unbrotherly conduct.

I trust you released him for those reasons.
 

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He looked like he'd won a competition to play with the first team when we rolled onto the pitch against us.
 

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He was released a month after we employed an Nutritionist.
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Elliott ‘King Curtis’ Durrell following this news
 

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Same old story of ex Macc world beater having a shocker at Wrexham!!

Depending which level we start at next season I wouldn't be surprised to see him back with us. Bet Alty would take him for rest of this season?
 

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Same old story of ex Macc world beater having a shocker at Wrexham!!

Depending which level we start at next season I wouldn't be surprised to see him back with us. Bet Alty would take him for rest of this season?
Destined for TNS I reckon. They'll pay more than anyone else and it's even closer to his family.
 

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Never really forgiven Durrell for relegating us virtually singlehandedly 3 years ago - despite not being paid by Macc for ages
 

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He was always fated to fail with us, he's got the stink of Shrewsbury about him, can't shake it off.

Its a sort of cow pat smell.
 

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Same old story of ex Macc world beater having a shocker at Wrexham!!

Depending which level we start at next season I wouldn't be surprised to see him back with us. Bet Alty would take him for rest of this season?
What level do you reckon you'll start at?
 

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