Stickied League 2 Away Support Thread 2023/24

[Bottega Don]

To be honest you've had quite a number of years of being pretty decent (even playing in the second tier) so I think a drop down to your 1970's level is probably well overdue and not too surprising in the grand scheme of things.

I mean for the last twenty years we've had at least 3.5k average each year, more than that most years. Having 2.4k as our average is a big drop. We've spent a large amount of this time in L2.

I don't think our league positions and attendances from 50 years ago are really relevant anymore.

 

[Mighty Mornflake]

I mean for the last twenty years we've had at least 3.5k average each year, more than that most years. Having 2.4k as our average is a big drop. We've spent a large amount of this time in L2.

I don't think our league positions and attendances from 50 years ago are really relevant anymore.

I'm just saying look at the bigger picture.
One of the first ever away games I saw Crewe play was away at Scunthorpe in 74-75.
It was a real bottom half Div 4 game and the gate was about 1,600.
Both clubs went on to better things in later years, although Scunthorpe had gone from non League to the brink of the top flight not too long previous.

 

[JaredSUFC]

480 Carlisle fans out of a total attendance of 2,873 at Gander Green Lane today

 

[AdamStag]

a loud and impressive 347 mansfield fans in a relatively quiet crowd of 5,252 at orient

 

[RLC]

Yeh,in the 70's you could barely get that for home games.

I think you mean the early Eighties, and you should check out your own attendance figures in that decade. Hardly packing them in were you ?

 

[northstandexile]

171 Exeter out of 5200 odd

187 Exeter at hartlepool
448 Bradford at crawley
169 Stevenage at Harrogate
1518 oldham at the Dale

missing vale at scunny
and col uwe at Swindon

 

[SELatic]

No way there was only 1500 latics at Dale today. Interested to see what the Dale fans reckon but that stand was definitely more than half full

 

[AdamStag]

No way there was only 1500 latics at Dale today. Interested to see what the Dale fans reckon but that stand was definitely more than half full

there’s a pic in here somewhere of the following.

Either way, a side down the road would bring at least 2500 or so though , surely

 

[SELatic]

there’s a pic in here somewhere of the following.

Either way, a side down the road would bring at least 2500 or so though , surely

We usually take 2.5-3k there but a mixture of the club making it difficult for us to get tickets and us being utterly dogshit meant today was lower than usual. There was definitely more than 1.5k there today though

 

[AdamStag]

We usually take 2.5-3k there but a mixture of the club making it difficult for us to get tickets and us being utterly dogshit meant today was lower than usual. There was definitely more than 1.5k there today though

Yeah you’ve got bad times buddy, and i hope you get it resolved, it’s sad that situations like this continue to happen while the EFL do fuck all.

Their “fit and proper” test is a nonsense

 

[Andy Proctor]

Looks like half our away followings this season are going be estimations as half teams don't seem arsed give the away numbers out

 

[Mighty Mornflake]

I think you mean the early Eighties, and you should check out your own attendance figures in that decade. Hardly packing them in were you ?

Seventies and early/mid Eighties.
It's not a dig,by the way and it's great to see - I'm a football fan in general and want to see good attendances everywhere,apart from just my own club.
But the notion that Tranmere might take a whopping 1,600 to Rochdale for a normal Fourth Division game would have been laughed at at one time so,as I say, it's really good to see.
Look at Stockport v Wrexham yesterday - 7,771 for a non League fixture!!! Wrexham themselves took 1,700 - mid Eighties that was a normal home gate for them.

 

[Mighty Mornflake]

I think you mean the early Eighties, and you should check out your own attendance figures in that decade. Hardly packing them in were you ?

Seventies and early/mid Eighties.

No way there was only 1500 latics at Dale today. Interested to see what the Dale fans reckon but that stand was definitely more than half full

No way there was only 1500 latics at Dale today. Interested to see what the Dale fans reckon but that stand was definitely more than half full

I saw a pic and yes,there looked easily more than 1,500.
And I know it's a big derby but I wouldn't have thought Dale would have had 3,700 of their own fans there.

 

[RLC]

Seventies and early/mid Eighties.
It's not a dig,by the way and it's great to see - I'm a football fan in general and want to see good attendances everywhere,apart from just my own club.
But the notion that Tranmere might take a whopping 1,600 to Rochdale for a normal Fourth Division game would have been laughed at at one time so,as I say, it's really good to see.
Look at Stockport v Wrexham yesterday - 7,771 for a non League fixture!!! Wrexham themselves took 1,700 - mid Eighties that was a normal home gate for them.

It was only in the late Seventies that our attendances started to dip but, yes, fair points.

Sorry, I thought you were the reincarnation of a Crewe WUM that used to post on here, but thankfully not.

 

[Salvador]

No way there was only 1500 latics at Dale today. Interested to see what the Dale fans reckon but that stand was definitely more than half full

I’d say slightly more than Tranmere brought but definitely less than 2k. I thought 1500-1600 before it was announced. In any crowd if you’re stood up in a busy section it looks and feels tightly packed from that perspective. But from where I was stood you could see there were blocks of empty seats all around the away end, especially from the middle of it towards the terrace. It was only really the two blocks closest to the Pearl Street stand that looked full. In previous years when you have (and other clubs have) brought 2.5-3.5k there isn’t an empty seat to be seen (bar the segregation and netting off that happens)
Not that it really matters. ‍

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

677 Cobblers at Salford

Out of a total of 2,037

 

[Limerick Mariner]

Seventies and early/mid Eighties.
It's not a dig,by the way and it's great to see - I'm a football fan in general and want to see good attendances everywhere,apart from just my own club.
But the notion that Tranmere might take a whopping 1,600 to Rochdale for a normal Fourth Division game would have been laughed at at one time so,as I say, it's really good to see.
Look at Stockport v Wrexham yesterday - 7,771 for a non League fixture!!! Wrexham themselves took 1,700 - mid Eighties that was a normal home gate for them.

I expect the non-league big 6 (Wrexham, Notts, Stockport, Grimsby, Chesterfield and Southend) to average more fans than two-thirds of league 2 clubs both home and away.

 

[Mighty Mornflake]

I expect the non-league big 6 (Wrexham, Notts, Stockport, Grimsby, Chesterfield and Southend) to average more fans than two-thirds of league 2 clubs both home and away.

Yeh, you're probably right.
I'm sure Grimsby must be taking bigger away followings than they did when they were in the old Second Division,mid Eighties and Notts are probably taking more away than they did for games in the top flight.
It's crazy.

 

[Limerick Mariner]

Yeh, you're probably right.
I'm sure Grimsby must be taking bigger away followings than they did when they were in the old Second Division,mid Eighties and Notts are probably taking more away than they did for games in the top flight.
It's crazy.

Way more for us - mid-eighties was a terrible time - local economy ravaged by the loss of the fishing fleet, crowd trouble was bad as well. Averaging over 800 so far for trips to Stockport mid-week, Torquay and Maidenhead, Notts are at a similar level. But our away support has been really good for about 6 years now, it's the home fan numbers that we'd struggled with, with over 5k home fans pretty rare, but we've had our best numbers for the first 4 games since the Championship in 2001. Wrexham are at their old second division levels.

 

[Conker]

a loud and impressive 347 mansfield fans in a relatively quiet crowd of 5,252 at orient

Our fans have been great this season even at home.

 

[Mighty Mornflake]

Out of a total of 2,037

1,300 home fans - dreadful.
Looks like many have gone back to Old Trafford again.
Meanwhile Stockport had nearly 8,000 for their non League game v Wrexham.
That's the difference between a proper traditional club and a bank-rolled amateur outfit.
Bring back the re-election system.

 

[chipmunx]

1,300 home fans - dreadful.
Looks like many have gone back to Old Trafford again.
Meanwhile Stockport had nearly 8,000 for their non League game v Wrexham.
That's the difference between a proper traditional club and a bank-rolled amateur outfit.
Bring back the re-election system.

erm - no thanks on re-election, lol
IF we had the current system in 1971/72 when we were voted out we would have stayed in the Football League and You and Stockport County would have been relegated......

 

[Loyal Dale]

No way there was only 1500 latics at Dale today. Interested to see what the Dale fans reckon but that stand was definitely more than half full

From the Main Stand i.e opposite you, it looked about right. My guess on the day was 1600.

The two blocks nearest the Sandy Lane End were not quite half full and the block nearest the Pearl St End was left empty for segregation purposes. Plenty of other seats visible in the other blocks as well as well as the front rows being closed.

However, I have to say that the backing you gave your team was superb, both in variety of songs and volume. Very impressive, and by far the loudest we've had for a while.

It was pleasing to see a big increase in home fans...and typical that we produced by far our worst performance of the season. First time I've been critical of RS's team selection, but he got it wrong big time by leaving out 3 of our better players against an Oldham team well marshalled by ex Daley Harrison McGahey who was the Man of the Match for me.

 

[SELatic]

From the Main Stand i.e opposite you, it looked about right. My guess on the day was 1600.

The two blocks nearest the Sandy Lane End were not quite half full and the block nearest the Pearl St End was left empty for segregation purposes. Plenty of other seats visible in the other blocks as well as well as the front rows being closed.

However, I have to say that the backing you gave your team was superb, both in variety of songs and volume. Very impressive, and by far the loudest we've had for a while.

It was pleasing to see a big increase in home fans...and typical that we produced by far our worst performance of the season. First time I've been critical of RS's team selection, but he got it wrong big time by leaving out 3 of our better players against an Oldham team well marshalled by ex Daley Harrison McGahey who was the Man of the Match for me.

Fair enough. Agreed McGahey was superb on his debut. If he plays like that every week, we’ll have enough defensively to keep our heads above water.

We’re still missing a centre forward though and none of our 15 injured players play in that position so can’t even blame that, just poor recruitment.

Our away support usually is pretty vocal which is one of the few positives at the moment. Hopefully the balance was struck between pro-team and anti-regime songs too given Abdallah was in attendance for the first time since pre-COVID.

 

[Posh Red]

A picture of Colchester fans at Swindon on Saturday.

I'd guess that's about 300 odd

 

[AdamStag]

Our fans have been great this season even at home.

Yeah, in fairness we have, which is nice to see.

Kept behind them against rochdale also (though i was in the bar for the 2nd half haha)

 

[Mighty Mornflake]

erm - no thanks on re-election, lol
IF we had the current system in 1971/72 when we were voted out we would have stayed in the Football League and You and Stockport County would have been relegated......

But you'd have already bitten the dust a year earlier when you finished bottom and we were well clear of danger.

 

[Andy Proctor]

I saw something on twitter that one of our fans Paul dicko Dixon posted on there sharing all the league 2 away followings from the weekend. It said 800 vale fans at scunthorpe. I doubt there was that many there looked more like 500 to 600 to me.

 

[Boz]

I expect the non-league big 6 (Wrexham, Notts, Stockport, Grimsby, Chesterfield and Southend) to average more fans than two-thirds of league 2 clubs both home and away.

I would pitch it closer to half the L2 clubs. There are a number of teams at this level, including my own team Tranmere Rovers, who have good home attendances and have decent travelling support numbers.

 

[Josh Butler]

1,300 home fans - dreadful.
Looks like many have gone back to Old Trafford again.
Meanwhile Stockport had nearly 8,000 for their non League game v Wrexham.
That's the difference between a proper traditional club and a bank-rolled amateur outfit.
Bring back the re-election system.

That re-election bollocks has in part caused the divide. Clubs like boston, altrincham, Kettering Worcester, woking etc could have all been easily as big as or bigger than crewe, scunthorpe, Rochdale, hartlepool etc had promotion been on merit, not on where you were based and rigged by backhanders and chairman voting their mates in

People on those places ended up going to their local 92 club as games actually meant something rather than the non league system back then which had zero coverage so teams like those i mentioned missed out on generations of potential fans who now still struggle to go to their local side.

The gap will slowly close over time as more 'non league' clubs make it up to the efl but even today, especially with away numbers, that divide is still there. Chester, Darlington and Herefords phoenix clubs alongside York will likely have the 4 highest home and away gates in a typical season in conference north

The re-election system encouraged mediocrity and stopped actual progressive clubs from moving to the next level