Stickied League One Away Support Thread 2023/24

[Imp in Branston]

Just sold out Plymouth on the 11th.

Looking forward to SW away, should be a decent following from Lincoln it being a Saturday.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

Just sold out Plymouth on the 11th.

Just seen this, 1,700 sell out, odd that they won't send us anymore, still two and half sections empty in that stand.
I do remember the Plymouth fans in the corner to the right being quite boisterous but surely we could have had a least one more section and there'd still be ample segregation.

 

[eric read]

Nearer 2000. Our average is 8750. Yours is under 7000.

We’ve shifted coming up to 5000 STs - which is difficult to quantify after years of zero information from Power - but is pretty good I’d say. There’s no ticket deals - prices are the same ridiculously high price for basement football as last season.

So, again, why are your attendances poor? You’ve had a couple of ‘bridesmaid’ seasons, started this one OK and still can’t get 7000.

Get your facts right. Our average currently is just under 7,500, and yes yours is 8,750. I'll come back with the exact numbers later (as I'm about to watch the England game) but I'm pretty sure that our attendances have been greater than yours in four of the last five seasons where fans actually attended.

Why this sudden fixation on attendances after three games Dan? Is it because it's the only stick you've got to beat us with, and you know it won't last? Our away support is, and has always been, higher than yours, so what's your excuse there?

 

[iWomble]

My post regarding Ticketmaster was in response to one of our fans, and in relation to our own ticketing system. Your system seems equally as bad, if not worse, so I hope you get it sorted, even if it is too late for us to benefit.

I'm getting the train on Saturday, how long a walk is it from Tooting Broadway tube station?

BTW, we've sold out already and tickets never made general sale so the 1,400 would have gone with no problem.

Sorry for the late reply on this. Tooting Broadway is about a 20 minute walk but the better option for away fans is to get the tube to Vauxhall then train one stop to Earlsfield, which is a five minute shorter walk and takes you past the designated away pubs - The Earlsfield and The Halfway House.

 

[eric read]

Sorry for the late reply on this. Tooting Broadway is about a 20 minute walk but the better option for away fans is to get the tube to Vauxhall then train one stop to Earlsfield, which is a five minute shorter walk and takes you past the designated away pubs - The Earlsfield and The Halfway House.

Thanks, I'll bear that in mind, very helpful.

 

[eric read]

Indian Dan said:
Nearer 2000. Our average is 8750. Yours is under 7000.

We’ve shifted coming up to 5000 STs - which is difficult to quantify after years of zero information from Power - but is pretty good I’d say. There’s no ticket deals - prices are the same ridiculously high price for basement football as last season.

So, again, why are your attendances poor? You’ve had a couple of ‘bridesmaid’ seasons, started this one OK and still can’t get 7000.

Get your facts right. Our average currently is just under 7,500, and yes yours is 8,750. I'll come back with the exact numbers later (as I'm about to watch the England game) but I'm pretty sure that our attendances have been greater than yours in four of the last five seasons where fans actually attended.

Why this sudden fixation on attendances after three games Dan? Is it because it's the only stick you've got to beat us with, and you know it won't last? Our away support is, and has always been, higher than yours, so what's your excuse there?

As promised, attendances from 2016/2017 onwards:

2016/2017 - Oxford 8,297 - Swindon 7,026
2017/2018 - Oxford 7,376 - Swindon 6,436
2018/2019 - Oxford 7,315 - Swindon 6,427
2019/2020 - Oxford 7,636 - Swindon 7,913

So, three out of the four we averaged about 1,000 more than you. Let's see where our respective attendances are after more than three games, as I don't think it will be what it is now.

Out of interest, we have our own cross to bear, with Kassam still owning the stadium and fans being treated like shit by him and his staff. It is an awful match day experience and a lot of people who are not 100% dyed in the wool fans, are fed up with it, and we won't truly fulfil our potential until we move away from the leech into our new stadium.

 

[Scunny Pacifist]

Indian Dan said:
Nearer 2000. Our average is 8750. Yours is under 7000.

We’ve shifted coming up to 5000 STs - which is difficult to quantify after years of zero information from Power - but is pretty good I’d say. There’s no ticket deals - prices are the same ridiculously high price for basement football as last season.

So, again, why are your attendances poor? You’ve had a couple of ‘bridesmaid’ seasons, started this one OK and still can’t get 7000.



As promised, attendances from 2016/2017 onwards:

2016/2017 - Oxford 8,297 - Swindon 7,026
2017/2018 - Oxford 7,376 - Swindon 6,436
2018/2019 - Oxford 7,315 - Swindon 6,427
2019/2020 - Oxford 7,636 - Swindon 7,913

So, three out of the four we averaged about 1,000 more than you. Let's see where our respective attendances are after more than three games, as I don't think it will be what it is now.

Out of interest, we have our own cross to bear, with Kassam still owning the stadium and fans being treated like shit by him and his staff. It is an awful match day experience and a lot of people who are not 100% dyed in the wool fans, are fed up with it, and we won't truly fulfil our potential until we move away from the leech into our new stadium.

Not a lot in it then lol. From a neutrals perspective I would say you were just about equal. Arent Reading your rivals as well? I always think they overachieve

 

[Pompeyblueboy]

Indian Dan said:
Nearer 2000. Our average is 8750. Yours is under 7000.

We’ve shifted coming up to 5000 STs - which is difficult to quantify after years of zero information from Power - but is pretty good I’d say. There’s no ticket deals - prices are the same ridiculously high price for basement football as last season.

So, again, why are your attendances poor? You’ve had a couple of ‘bridesmaid’ seasons, started this one OK and still can’t get 7000.



As promised, attendances from 2016/2017 onwards:

2016/2017 - Oxford 8,297 - Swindon 7,026
2017/2018 - Oxford 7,376 - Swindon 6,436
2018/2019 - Oxford 7,315 - Swindon 6,427
2019/2020 - Oxford 7,636 - Swindon 7,913

So, three out of the four we averaged about 1,000 more than you. Let's see where our respective attendances are after more than three games, as I don't think it will be what it is now.

Out of interest, we have our own cross to bear, with Kassam still owning the stadium and fans being treated like shit by him and his staff. It is an awful match day experience and a lot of people who are not 100% dyed in the wool fans, are fed up with it, and we won't truly fulfil our potential until we move away from the leech into our new stadium.

Swindon is a good day out unlike Poxford. The ground is miles from anywhere, no pubs,

 

[TheDon]

Indian Dan said:
Nearer 2000. Our average is 8750. Yours is under 7000.

We’ve shifted coming up to 5000 STs - which is difficult to quantify after years of zero information from Power - but is pretty good I’d say. There’s no ticket deals - prices are the same ridiculously high price for basement football as last season.

So, again, why are your attendances poor? You’ve had a couple of ‘bridesmaid’ seasons, started this one OK and still can’t get 7000.



As promised, attendances from 2016/2017 onwards:

2016/2017 - Oxford 8,297 - Swindon 7,026
2017/2018 - Oxford 7,376 - Swindon 6,436
2018/2019 - Oxford 7,315 - Swindon 6,427
2019/2020 - Oxford 7,636 - Swindon 7,913

So, three out of the four we averaged about 1,000 more than you. Let's see where our respective attendances are after more than three games, as I don't think it will be what it is now.

Out of interest, we have our own cross to bear, with Kassam still owning the stadium and fans being treated like shit by him and his staff. It is an awful match day experience and a lot of people who are not 100% dyed in the wool fans, are fed up with it, and we won't truly fulfil our potential until we move away from the leech into our new stadium.

Potential, what fucking potential!

 

[eric read]

Swindon is a good day out unlike Poxford. The ground is miles from anywhere, no pubs,

So without realising it, you're making my point for me.

There really is a village somewhere in Hampshire missing its idiot.

 

[eric read]

Potential, what fucking potential!

Get back to the pub league forum, where you belong.

The irony of someone from fucking Swindon trying to take the piss...........

 

[Indian Dan]

Get your facts right. Our average currently is just under 7,500, and yes yours is 8,750. I'll come back with the exact numbers later (as I'm about to watch the England game) but I'm pretty sure that our attendances have been greater than yours in four of the last five seasons where fans actually attended.

Why this sudden fixation on attendances after three games Dan? Is it because it's the only stick you've got to beat us with, and you know it won't last? Our away support is, and has always been, higher than yours, so what's your excuse there?

Well, tbf, my original query was why after 3 home games, you had less than 7000 home fans in attendance at each game. Obviously, us being in the pub league, there is substantially less away fans at our home games which actually exacerbates the difference.

I know your problem with Kassam, but that’s been the case ever since you moved there. Again, with you listing your averages over the last few seasons is the reason I queried why numbers of home fans have dropped off. Getting decent attendances just because you happen to be playing clubs with large away followings is just hiding it.

And your snapshot over the past few seasons doesn’t tell the whole story. Here’s the averages overall. 2000 up!

Swindon – 9,213
Oldham – 8,871
MK Dons – 8,218
Wigan – 8,157
Leyton Orient – 8,155
Grimsby – 7,742
Rotherham – 7,412
Bury – 7,319
Bournemouth – 7,278
Oxford – 7,249

 

[stevowanderer]

Look at Axis M&E in the UK. It was liquidated with over £13m of debts and only £14,000 of assets! That doesn't sound too clever to me.

So, you've had about 1,000 fans more than us so far at your three games, after several years of Lee Power and the big "getting your club back" lift, and kids for a quid and other ticket deals, well done. Let's see how things pan out when a few more games have been played, as I suspect the situation will change quite a bit.

Only did a quick scan on companies house but looks a bit dodgy… 9.7m of debt plus 465k shareholders capital. But 8.5m of that 9.7m debt is owed to the Australian Axis company. No idea why it owes it - maybe that was money to help set up over here/loan/line of credit? 1.2m of book debts owed to Axis M&E, over 4m of retention payments on top of the 13/14k cash and Axis owe 1.2m to businesses other than themselves. So total assets is around 6m and total liabilities is 10m (of which 8.5m is owed to themselves). Not as catastrophic as it first looked on paper. Looks to me like the business just failed which happens.

Assume Qantuma are trying to collect some of the book debts and retention payments to pay creditors (and themselves) but they are incredibly difficult to reclaim (particularly retention). Dividend to creds will be next to nothing and assume as Australian axis have around 85% of the debt the smaller creds won’t get much at all.

You can never really tell how dodgy the whole thing is unless you are involved in the liquidation and speak to the people involved. Some people are just corrupt and move money around between groups of companies to minimise losses knowing the business is going to fail. And if they do it well enough there’s not much you can do about it.

 

[eric read]

Well, tbf, my original query was why after 3 home games, you had less than 7000 home fans in attendance at each game. Obviously, us being in the pub league, there is substantially less away fans at our home games which actually exacerbates the difference.

I know your problem with Kassam, but that’s been the case ever since you moved there. Again, with you listing your averages over the last few seasons is the reason I queried why numbers of home fans have dropped off. Getting decent attendances just because you happen to be playing clubs with large away followings is just hiding it.

And your snapshot over the past few seasons doesn’t tell the whole story. Here’s the averages overall. 2000 up!

Swindon – 9,213
Oldham – 8,871
MK Dons – 8,218
Wigan – 8,157
Leyton Orient – 8,155
Grimsby – 7,742
Rotherham – 7,412
Bury – 7,319
Bournemouth – 7,278
Oxford – 7,249

We were talking about the here and now, so I showed recent figures. We weren’t talking about attendances 100 years ago, as that bears no relevance.

Not every team in League One brings a large away following, Crewe brought only 204 to us the other week.

Also you mentioned extortionate prices, but three weeks ago you said you were doing kids for a quid all season, so which is true, and which is made up?

 

[Indian Dan]

Enjoy your trip?

 

[eric read]

Enjoy your trip?

Enjoy the pub league?

 

[Pompeyblueboy]

Enjoy the pub league?

Good following from Swindon

 

[BarrieOwl]

Looking forward to SW away, should be a decent following from Lincoln it being a Saturday.

Yep. First time you've been up to ours in my lifetime I reckon

 

[BarrieOwl]

Did Oxford sell out, genuine question, when they showed the goals on Sky it looked like it hadn't, if the stand held 1400 it was half full but I could be wrong

 

[eric read]

Did Oxford sell out, genuine question, when they showed the goals on Sky it looked like it hadn't, if the stand held 1400 it was half full but I could be wrong

We were only given 1,000 tickets, which we sold in about two days.

Nobody knew why they wouldn't give us more, but I found out today that after some trouble when they played Bolton and Gillingham, the Met and the H&S guys have cut the allocation back to 1,000, but in a stand that holds 1,400. Bloody stupid if you ask me, surely they could just employ more stewards or OB for the teams that sell out the 1,400.

 

[Crewelad87]

429 Shrewsbury at Accrington
559 MK at Cheltenham

 

[Pompeyblueboy]

We were only given 1,000 tickets, which we sold in about two days.

Nobody knew why they wouldn't give us more, but I found out today that after some trouble when they played Bolton and Gillingham, the Met and the H&S guys have cut the allocation back to 1,000, but in a stand that holds 1,400. Bloody stupid if you ask me, surely they could just employ more stewards or OB for the teams that sell out the 1,400.

 

[eric read]

What's your point?

 

[iWomble]

We were only given 1,000 tickets, which we sold in about two days.

Nobody knew why they wouldn't give us more, but I found out today that after some trouble when they played Bolton and Gillingham, the Met and the H&S guys have cut the allocation back to 1,000, but in a stand that holds 1,400. Bloody stupid if you ask me, surely they could just employ more stewards or OB for the teams that sell out the 1,400.

Yes, I heard that too. Seemed odd to do that but not actually block off the end of your stand next to our East Stand which is where the flashpoint is. We seem to have a sizeable group that have season tickets in that part of the East Stand precisely because of the opportunity to goad away fans. We're still finding our way with crowd control (as with lots of other aspects of having a new stadium) and it'll settle down once the Met work out how best to deal with it.

 

[Pompeyblueboy]

What's your point?

You couldn't even fill your end for a match 60 miles away. So hopefully you'll stop gobbing off about how shit Swindon areand how massive your away support is.

 

[BarrieOwl]

You couldn't even fill your end for a match 60 miles away. So hopefully you'll stop gobbing off about how shit Swindon areand how massive your away support is.

Didn't they sell out the 1k allocation?

 

[eric read]

You couldn't even fill your end for a match 60 miles away. So hopefully you'll stop gobbing off about how shit Swindon areand how massive your away support is.

Are you as stupid as you sound, or just being a twat?

It's all explained above, we sold the tickets we were given. They gave us 1,000 tickets in a stand that holds 1,400, hence the 400 empty seats. If you really can't understand that, then I'm surprised you've managed to type a reply without the help of an adult.

Now fuck off, it's time you extracted your tongue from the Swindon fans' arses.

 

[gary]

I have to say it was a bit ridiculous not giving Oxford the full allocation of 1400.Surely a few more stewards etc would have solved the problem .Hope this is sorted as it's a needless loss of income for us.

 

[YEO YEO YEO]

Saturday 4th September 2021
Accrington Stanley 1-0 Shrewsbury Town | 2,465 [429]
AFC Wimbledon 3-1 Oxford United | No home attendance [Approx 1000]
Cheltenham Town 1-1 MK Dons | 3,705 [559]

 

[BarrieOwl]

I have to say it was a bit ridiculous not giving Oxford the full allocation of 1400.Surely a few more stewards etc would have solved the problem .Hope this is sorted as it's a needless loss of income for us.

I've not a prayer of a ticket when we play you, there's 5 new grounds for me and I've no chance of getting to em