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None of its sustainable, every club with ambition is bankrolled by the owners. Great until the cash runs out, then you find out all the spending was hidden loans not gifts.
 

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Grimsby fans coming on talking about unsustainable is rich. Their manager has made their 24th signing of the season today and "wants one or two more in" Yes there are a fair few loans, and not big fees but you will be paying their wages, signing on fees etc. That's not sustainable in terms of squad cohesion and perhaps it's the reason they've gone from title challengers to play off hopers.

Only going to be even more this summer too, though I doubt we are paying signing on fees especially for loan players and the players coming in are only replacing ones going out so wages replacing wages. Thought I'd look at our current situation.

29 first team players on the books with 5 out on loan at other clubs leaving 24 players to pick from.
3 of those are on loan to us leaving 21 of our own. Two (Scannell and Grant) have been injured all season and not picked, and two are sub keepers (Mckeown and Battersby a youth) which Hurst doesn't put a keeper on the bench.
Take out the first choice keeper and we basically only have 19 players (16 + 3 loans) to pick 10 starting outfield players and 5 subs from, providing all 19 are fit (which another 2, Drew and Efete currently aren't).

So despite all these signings our squad currently picks itself and we still don't have a goalscorer!

Oh and if you think this year has been bad for signing players, only 4 of our 26 are contracted for next season and one of those has been loaned out!
 

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If he's so shit, we should all just be pleased shouldn't we? Every man for themselves in this league, we all want that one auto spot.

The reality is if he can hold his own in League One, he's probably better than the lad they've got partnering Mullin up top so far this season so it's not a good thing for any of us.

Grimsby fans coming on talking about unsustainable is rich. Their manager has made their 24th signing of the season today and "wants one or two more in" Yes there are a fair few loans, and not big fees but you will be paying their wages, signing on fees etc. That's not sustainable in terms of squad cohesion and perhaps it's the reason they've gone from title challengers to play off hopers.
You mean to tell me that we’re paying players wages? We were never title challengers and that will be reflected in our budget.
 

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None of its sustainable, every club with ambition is bankrolled by the owners. Great until the cash runs out, then you find out all the spending was hidden loans not gifts.

It’s not and I’m under no illusions that we’re any less completely reliant on rich owners, but.. I would much rather be left with our team of players in their early twenties worth decent money than Ollie Palmer on a three-and-a-half year deal.
 

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Grimsby spent their way up last time and ended up back down here so you can see why they are concerned for us.
You’ll do well to remember it was paid for by the fans raising over 100k for the playing budget. We signed Omar Bogle who took us to promotion, you’ll never guess which strikers position he took after a failed attempt at promotion the year before…
 

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We are paying for it with our multimillionaire owners.

The amount in sponsorship we got from Tik Tok and Expedia will have helped too. The increased gates will help as well of course- we will take in over 2 million in gate money alone this season.

20% Tax on those gate receipts and sponsorships. What you’re bringing in is not touching the sides of your outlay. Palmer would have a nice big signing on fee on top of his minimum £5k a week wages without bonuses so that’s well over half a million against your £1.6m gate earnings gone. Wake up.
 

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You’ll do well to remember it was paid for by the fans raising over 100k for the playing budget. We signed Omar Bogle who took us to promotion, you’ll never guess which strikers position he took after a failed attempt at promotion the year before…

Scored less goals in more games that season than the striker he replaced from the season before though ;)
 

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20% Tax on those gate receipts and sponsorships. What you’re bringing in is not touching the sides of your outlay. Palmer would have a nice big signing on fee on top of his minimum £5k a week wages without bonuses so that’s well over half a million against your £1.6m gate earnings gone. Wake up.

Yeah sorry. We will go bust next week.

Every season Dagenham and Redbridge are funding a wage bill many times what your club generates itself. What is McCallum on a week? what is Balanta? Given that we are 4 or 5 times bigger than you its all relative isn't it?

I mentioned gate receipts but that is one small part of our turnover.

Its quite funny how everyone gets up in arms over these signings. We can afford them.
 

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20% Tax on those gate receipts and sponsorships. What you’re bringing in is not touching the sides of your outlay. Palmer would have a nice big signing on fee on top of his minimum £5k a week wages without bonuses so that’s well over half a million against your £1.6m gate earnings gone. Wake up.
You average gate is 1700 how do you pay the wage bill?
 

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3.5 year deal I'm hearing. Seems mental but I guess we've got our man, so

3.5 year deal I'm hearing. Seems mental but I guess we've got our man, so.

Has anyone told gary?
Lol.Its ok.300 grand for a 30 year old is good business for us . He'll double his wages so good luck to him.He has his good and bad day's.Some game's you'll think he's a load of shite,other time's he'll be the difference between winning and losing .He's a bit injury prone as well.
 

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300k is a stupid fee for this level no doubt but that seems to be the market this window. Its more important we get the player we'd identified.

If its upset people then you probably shouldn't follow our transfers for the rest of the month because I have a feeling it won't be the only deal.
 

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300k is a stupid fee for this level no doubt but that seems to be the market this window. Its more important we get the player we'd identified.

If its upset people then you probably shouldn't follow our transfers for the rest of the month because I have a feeling it won't be the only deal.
If we'd paid £300k for Mullin in the summer and then Palmer on a free I don't think we'd be having all this.

The issue I have is the guy was out of contract in the summer. But if Parkinson said he's his number 1 target then I guess the owners have to back him in that.
 

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Apparently the Palmer deal is now OFF after Wimbledon forgot that they haven’t bought in his replacement yet.
 

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Yeah sorry. We will go bust next week.

Every season Dagenham and Redbridge are funding a wage bill many times what your club generates itself. What is McCallum on a week? what is Balanta? Given that we are 4 or 5 times bigger than you its all relative isn't it?

I mentioned gate receipts but that is one small part of our turnover.

Its quite funny how everyone gets up in arms over these signings. We can afford them.
Didn’t say you would go bust, just pointing out you’re deluded if you think your only spending what you’re bringing in.

What’s our wage bill got to do with it? I’ve mentioned on here before our owners topping us up about £250k a year to about £1.4m.
 

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You average gate is 1700 how do you pay the wage bill?
Got fruit machines in the clubhouse, you’re all missing my point it’s about Wrexham fans claiming you’re living within your means of turnover just calling out it for being nonsense.
 

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Lol.Its ok.300 grand for a 30 year old is good business for us . He'll double his wages so good luck to him.He has his good and bad day's.Some game's you'll think he's a load of shite,other time's he'll be the difference between winning and losing .He's a bit injury prone as well.

I've seen him play twice and in both games he was exactly this in game. I've never ever seen a performance from one player that could be summed up with the words 'a game of two halves' other than his against Southend for Crawley in the FA Cup a few years back. First half he was atrocious, and I mean didn't even look step 6 quality atrocious. He comes out second half and it was like he'd managed to embody Messi, taking it round players, bangs in two goals and was generally unplayable.
I guess at this level if Wrexham get his 50% brilliant performances they'll be more than happy.
 

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You’ll do well to remember it was paid for by the fans raising over 100k for the playing budget. We signed Omar Bogle who took us to promotion, you’ll never guess which strikers position he took after a failed attempt at promotion the year before…
Hahaha no that money definitely didn't pay for Bogle remember! That was great when everyone ripped the piss out us for #operationpromotion and then we raised 100k extra in no time and then went up.
 

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300k is a stupid fee for this level no doubt but that seems to be the market this window. Its more important we get the player we'd identified.

If its upset people then you probably shouldn't follow our transfers for the rest of the month because I have a feeling it won't be the only deal.
I think you're making the market to be honest. Fair play, your owners are ambitious and in a hurry and it's their money. I think he'll be a good foil for Mullins and it's goals that get you up in this division.
I'm certainly glad we've played you twice already as you're a stronger team tonight for the signing.
 

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Rumoured to be after Jamie Thomas (attacker) on loan from Preston. How reliable the source is I don't know.
Never heard of him though. Which is the usual case with our signings
 

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This has been some fun reading this morning haha.

Have we overpaid? Yes....Is the contract too long? (Probably) Yes
Also.....Is he exactly what we need? Yes....Can we afford him? Yes

There is a financial structure in place at Wrexham, this hasn't broken the budget, I would not be surprised if we broke this again this week. Of course it's not sustainable to be spending 300k often at this level, but it is the plan that in a few years this sort of signing and fee is regular for us at a higher level, we have been there previous, the previous record that this broke was 220k almost 50 years ago!

Anyway, on to the next rumour....I've heard a link to Dan Sweeney at FGR, I don't know much about him.
 

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None of its sustainable, every club with ambition is bankrolled by the owners. Great until the cash runs out, then you find out all the spending was hidden loans not gifts.
Let's be honest here, the only way our cashflow will begin to reduce is if Ryan Reynolds' stock plummets. As that is very unlikely to happen for the next decade or so, we can look forward to being made filthy rich through lucrative sponsorship deals year on year, decent ticket sales and the whole thing being documented (though the latter probably won't last the decade).

Once we are in the league, R&R have already said that our priorities will switch to becoming a more sustainable club. A top class training ground and youth setup will be part of that, and rather than signing 30 year olds on 3.5 year deals, we will look to sign players who could be a part of our success (or failure) for the whole time they're with us. Just another point, R&R have not loaned the club any money and only put £2m in at the start of their time here, which our Supporters Trust assured us was not a loan.

It is cute how many of you are concerned about us, mind.
 

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Not a Wrexham fan but even I’m getting annoyed at them spending so much money on players with no potential on long contracts. I know they can afford it but…they could also afford young, exciting players instead.

Short-term it could work of course but you have to question who is making these decisions.

welcome to our BEEF with Fleetwood in 2011
 

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That is quite a punt. I think he's a good striker at National League level. However, I wouldn't say he's anywhere ready for League 1. Would happily have had him back and he'd get 10-15 a season in the National League. But yeah, League 1 is a different beast and I wouldn't say he's shown enough to jump up one league, let alone two.
Sorry, missed this.

Ta, he's come in at a time where we're stacked with attackers now having hardly had any in the first half of the season so I don't think he'll get any game time this season to be honest so his biggest contribution might be allowing us to finally fill a bench this season, something that hasn't happened too often! :lol:
 

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is this the same Callum powell that played for us and was....... questionable!
He must have improved a fair bit then...
 

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