Everyone is a capitalist, so therefore a Tory

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Think about it, if you aren't socialist then you are a Tory, and none of you are actual socialists.

All very happy with low taxes caused by our austerity, and house, car, mobile phone and pension owners, then you are rude to us.

Admit it, you are a Tory.

 

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Capitalism is a tool of income for 'democratic' governments. Fact is, the top 1% contribute a significant amount of our country's GDP in yearly taxes, hence why governments are so reluctant to be hard on them. This small group of incredibly (understatement) wealthy people make vasts amount of money at the expense of the rest of society and use the "but we create jobs" lingo as a cover for what is simply a 'don't give a fuck about everyne else' profit maximisation approach.

We need to get past this left and right bullshit. We as a population are getting raped, and all we do is let politicians tell us 'its gonna change'. Government and the top 1%. That's who rule our country, not us.
 

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Think about it, if you aren't socialist then you are a Tory, and none of you are actual socialists.

All very happy with low taxes caused by our austerity, and house, car, mobile phone and pension owners, then you are rude to us.

Admit it, you are a Tory.

What a babe.
 

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Capitalism is a tool of income for 'democratic' governments. Fact is, the top 1% contribute a significant amount of our country's GDP in yearly taxes, hence why governments are so reluctant to be hard on them. This small group of incredibly (understatement) wealthy people make vasts amount of money at the expense of the rest of society and use the "but we create jobs" lingo as a cover for what is simply a 'don't give a fuck about everyne else' profit maximisation approach.

We need to get past this left and right bullshit. We as a population are getting raped, and all we do is let politicians tell us 'its gonna change'. Government and the top 1%. That's who rule our country, not us.
Incorrect, the answer is simple, if you can see how some people have had success, and you want some of it, then you need to be like them, I am jolly sorry but you are either in to total equality or you aren't, and the moment you aren't you enter survival of the fittest, fair means or foul for me, so we are all tories, every single one of us.

Vote Conservative in May 2015. Red Ed must go.
 

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Incorrect, the answer is simple, if you can see how some people have had success, and you want some of it, then you need to be like them, I am jolly sorry but you are either in to total equality or you aren't, and the moment you aren't you enter survival of the fittest, fair means or foul for me, so we are all tories, every single one of us.

Vote Conservative in May 2015. Red Ed must go.
I agree that success is achievable for any man with commitment but I'm talking about the bigger picture, how corporate debt is funded by people like me or you. Corporate banksters make bets with non existant liquid capital. When they win they win big, when they loose the government bails them out with public money. It's a lose lose. This is the system.


We need a population who are aware of the inner workings of our economy or simply put we will get abused - as we have been.
 

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Comments like that are the reason your baiting doesn't work here. It suggests even less knowledge than is required for a passable wind-up.

Nice that you had a go though.
I stand by my claim, and it has never been countered

If you don't practice socialism / communism then you aren't socialist, can we at least agree that ?
 

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Commies rule, fuck the tories!

There, that's my well-reasoned answer to this debate, cheer Spear! ;)
if you are a member of the Dundee Communist Party and live to those rules, then I respect this view.

However, you are very happy to live the life of luxury we have brought you all :p
 

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Jesus Christ, who directed Spear to the politics area of the forum? :rolleyes:
 
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What about National Socialism you can be right & left all at the same time doesnt get much more fair and accommodating than that.

ps I really want to know who that is in Reds avatar looks a Commie.
 

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if you are a member of the Dundee Communist Party and live to those rules, then I respect this view.

However, you are very happy to live the life of luxury we have brought you all :p
Luxury? Maybe up in Aberdeen there is, in that Shangri-La due to oil wealth (nothing to do with Tories that), but there is certainly no luxury in Dundee and the only thing Tories have done is made it worse for people here. We kicked out Thatcher's poll tax, and threw Churchill down the Caird Hall steps and we will do so again in making sure the Tory party has no voice in this city and country - and Eck Salmond will bring them down in the general election as well, so you may as well join UKIP now matey. ;)
 

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