2018 FIFA World Cup Final: France v Croatia, 15th July, 4pm(GMT)

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missed the goal....switching between the tennis and this....bugger!
 

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Should never have been a free kick mind, Griezmann basically diving to win it
 

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Deserved for Croatia I think. We've a game now.
 

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Another goal that...sorta...came from a set piece.
 

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VAR awarded penalty. What drama.
 

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VAR awarded penalty. What drama.
but did it ? The ref said no initially...Var couldn't decide and sent it back to the ref to make a second decision. What is the point of VAR if it doesn't make the decision ?
 

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Feels pretty harsh that. Deliberate? Very tough call.
 

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How the fuck was that a penalty, how can he even look at that video time and time again and come to the conclusion that was deliberate handball, crazy decision!
 

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Moves his hand down to the ball, slow motion always makes it look worse
 

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Watching Croatia causing havoc at set pieces breaks my heart. Kane, Stone and Maguire would have had a field day against this France defence.
 

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Croatia the better team but behind, both teams look terrible when defending set pieces.

Ref's a bit of a clown, no consistency at all. Booked two French players for 'taking one for the team' fouls yet Croatia have done the same on occasions and got nothing. Mbappe just had his plonker pulled and the left back didn't even get a talking to. Weird.
 

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France must feel very fortunate at half time. I just hope if they do go on to win, they do so with something a bit more emphatic or impressive. Winning it with those two goals would be forever questioned.

In keeping with the whole tournament, set pieces are all important.
 

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Feels pretty harsh that. Deliberate? Very tough call.
basically the ref was allowed 2 goes at the decision with the 2nd one on screen and with replays. Farcical.
 

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Load of bollocks isn’t it? Croatia getting robbed here.
 

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It certainly wasn’t a free kick (Griezmann goes down before the contact) but it was a pen imo. Same for everyone.

Croatia are really good though, they’ve got an equalizer in them.
 

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Ps. It doesn’t have to be deliberate for it to be handball. Read the rule before calling it farcical, like I’m sure the ref has.
 

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Ps. It doesn’t have to be deliberate for it to be handball. Read the rule before calling it farcical, like I’m sure the ref has.
Gary Lineker just read the rules verbatim on Match of the Day that said it had to be deliberate?
 

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Watching Croatia causing havoc at set pieces breaks my heart. Kane, Stone and Maguire would have had a field day against this France defence.
We’d have torn them open but created nothing.

Oh and we don’t have the midfield to take control of this game and put France under pressure as Croatia have, so even then moot point
 

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Of course it has to be deliberate handball to be a foul otherwise you would get 5 penalties a game, absolute nonsense decision from the referee that after looking back at the incident numerous times.
 

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Ps. It doesn’t have to be deliberate for it to be handball. Read the rule before calling it farcical, like I’m sure the ref has.
Wrong.

HANDLING THE BALL

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.

The following must be considered:
the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence
touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) is an offence
hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an offence
The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. Inside their penalty area, the goalkeeper cannot be guilty of a handling offence incurring a direct free kick or any related sanction but can be guilty of handling offences that incur an indirect free kick.
 

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Bilo speaking from a position of certainty without doing a quick google search first. Basic forum error.
 

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You lot are right, I’m backing down.

There are a LOT of pens given for what isn’t really deliberate mind so it does strike me as a very weird wording.
 

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Ps. It doesn’t have to be deliberate for it to be handball. Read the rule before calling it farcical, like I’m sure the ref has.
@ me ?....I said farcical because of the system between ref and VAR then back to ref.
 

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Well there’s nothing wrong with that goal.
 

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cracking goal by Pogs!
 

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Pogba started that move, fitting that he finishes it.
 
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Well one out of France's three goals should have counted.
Wonder if the ref and VAR mob will be celebrating with France at final whistle ?
Or Griezmann dives when cup is handed to him
 

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