2022/23 Relegation Thread

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Really,he said that.
Thats some admission.
He did say that, I listened to the interview also.
you would have to be a hard man not to have some feeling for PH
he,s been let down badly by his two key signings .
Hastie came on yesterday, I can,t describe what I saw absolute waste of time
a half fit Joe Gray would have been far better.
Murray, honestly can,t see how he,s a pro. Must have had good players
Along side him at Kilmarnock, He was made to look incapable yesterday.

We all know what Raj is like, but Hartley has been in the game long enough
to know his way around the boardroom.
He was given a free hand, and they are HIS signings from north of the border.

Think his Naievty has now been totally exposed, I understand when bringing
a new manager may not work, but it’s now plain to see as things stand
We are most certainly going to the NatLge.
At least if we bring someone new in, at least we can say we tried.
 

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I think it’s dawned on Hartley listening to his post match that he’s been sold a pup from Raj, are these mostly shite signings down to the hand he’s been dealt by Raj? Where they the best we could get? And it’s not just the Scottish lot, Cooke has stunk the house down whenever he’s been involved, Lacey should be thanking his lucky stars that his partner in crime Murray is hogging all of the dog shit spotlight for himself.

Changing managers won’t change a thing, it never does, we’ve done it plenty, we’ve had umpteen, Raj and his penny pinching is the problem and he’s taking us back to non league.

When we signed Callum Cooke on loan from Peterborough, he really impressed and most Bantams fans were delighted when we signed him permanently. However, once signed he seriously underwhelmed for a couple of seasons and no surprise he was released in the summer.

Not sure what it is about him, I just feel there is a decent player in there, but it's time he proved that or he will end up playing part time for someone in the North East
 

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When we signed Callum Cooke on loan from Peterborough, he really impressed and most Bantams fans were delighted when we signed him permanently. However, once signed he seriously underwhelmed for a couple of seasons and no surprise he was released in the summer.

Not sure what it is about him, I just feel there is a decent player in there, but it's time he proved that or he will end up playing part time for someone in the North East
He's got good set piece delivery and can pick out a pass given time on the ball but he can't tackle, run or get in the box. I just don't know where he fits, was blatantly just signed without thinking how he'd fit in the system but that's just typical of us, there's no strategy or planning in anything we do.
 

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He's got good set piece delivery and can pick out a pass given time on the ball but he can't tackle, run or get in the box. I just don't know where he fits, was blatantly just signed without thinking how he'd fit in the system but that's just typical of us, there's no strategy or planning in anything we do.

Seemingly signed him on the strength of the home game v Bradford last season were he looked like Kevin de Bruyne up against our pack of losers.

He looks overweight, has zero pace, never seen him tackle yet, luxury player for me, not fit for a scrap.
 

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Seemingly signed him on the strength of the home game v Bradford last season were he looked like Kevin de Bruyne up against our pack of losers.

He looks overweight, has zero pace, never seen him tackle yet, luxury player for me, not fit for a scrap.
Yep I'd rather have Sylla or Niang in there who are much lesser players but will run and scrap and that is what we need at the minute. Basic desire and fitness neither of which Cooke has shown.
 

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Seemingly signed him on the strength of the home game v Bradford last season were he looked like Kevin de Bruyne up against our pack of losers.

He looks overweight, has zero pace, never seen him tackle yet, luxury player for me, not fit for a scrap.
I think a luxury player is a fair way to describe him. When the goings good and you’re winning games he looks great, always after the ball and things go through him. He’s not someone for when the chips are down and the team is struggling. I liked him but we were right to let him go, he was some what overrated by some of our fans, similar to Billy Knott who ended up at Canvey Island and got better everytime he didn’t play. If Cooke doesn’t improve he’ll end up at the North East equivalent, South Shields!
 

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Thinking of starting a new thread "HAS HE GONE YET"
For fans that are pissed by thier gaffa.

What do people think.
 

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I would also hope so, but we’ve yet to show any signs so far. We’re looking like a poor team yet again.

Ohh no HG we're going down this season aren't we?
We've played just six games and are only 12th with a game in hand and we've only lost one game so far despite loads of injuries.

What a disaster!

We'll be the next Scunthorpe..
 

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Ohh no HG we're going down this season aren't we?
We've played just six games and are only 12th with a game in hand and we've only lost one game so far despite loads of injuries.

What a disaster!

We'll be the next Scunthorpe..

Carver, i have not said we’re going down. If Simpson can keep last seasons shower of shit up, then I see no reason why he can’t keep us up this season. But I’ve said all along and I stand by it, this squad doesn’t have enough quality to avoid being in and around the bottom quarter of the table when it gets to the business end of the season. It’s great that we’re riding high in 12th, but we’ve had favourable fixtures and have still looked less than convincing. If we play like we have done over the last 3 games, we will be on the end of some beatings in the coming weeks and I do expect us to start plummeting down the league. Unless of course our performances start to drastically improve which is what I’m hoping for. I trust our manager.

Carver, do you ever actually look at the performance levels of our team? Or do you just ignore it and assume everything is all great.
 

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You may have a point.

At least two of Carlisle's goals last Saturday were caused by a combination of Rochdale's inability to defend set pieces (hopefully to be corrected pronto by Jim Bentley) and Paul Huntington being rather useful at creating mayhem from said set pieces when not properly marked...:bl:
 

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Aaaanyway..

No HG I don't buy too much into the performances but I do buy into the results and in this results business we are bang average at the moment thanks to injuries but no way will we struggle like you say.
 

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Aaaanyway..

No HG I don't buy too much into the performances but I do buy into the results and in this results business we are bang average at the moment thanks to injuries but no way will we struggle like you say.

We've already played 4 of the bottom 6, that will be 5 of the bottom 6 come Saturday.

It's concerning that we're not looking at all convincing despite on paper having a favourable opening run of fixtures. What do you think will happen when we come up against the top sides if we continue with these levels of performance?
 

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You may have a point.

At least two of Carlisle's goals last Saturday were caused by a combination of Rochdale's inability to defend set pieces (hopefully to be corrected pronto by Jim Bentley) and Paul Huntington being rather useful at creating mayhem from said set pieces when not properly marked...:bl:
Yeah, though depending on perspective every goal conceded is avoidable
 

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When you look at the odds for us to win football matches, it’s pretty evident that bookmakers see us as the worst team in the league. I’ve noticed this for a good few weeks now but this week it couldn’t be more clear.

Take Tuesday for example, Skybet have us 17/4 to win. You can’t get odds as long as that for any other team winning a game in League 2. Not even close. They have next to zero faith in us winning a game of football, particularly away from home. These odds would reflect more that of a lower league team playing a premier league team in the cup, not a bog standard League 2 fixture. To put it in perspective, no wins Rochdale up against top of the league unbeaten Orient. A Rochdale win… 2/1, not even half the return you’d get for a Carlisle win on the same night. Says it all.

Now interestingly that doesn’t necessarily mean they think we’ll go down, only 6th favourites for the drop. As we all know from previous experiences, the worst team doesn’t always go down and that’s likely why the bookies think we’ll just about stay up.

These aren’t my views, I’m just saying what the bookies are telling us.
 

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When you look at the odds for us to win football matches, it’s pretty evident that bookmakers see us as the worst team in the league. I’ve noticed this for a good few weeks now but this week it couldn’t be more clear.

Take Tuesday for example, Skybet have us 17/4 to win. You can’t get odds as long as that for any other team winning a game in League 2. Not even close. They have next to zero faith in us winning a game of football, particularly away from home. These odds would reflect more that of a lower league team playing a premier league team in the cup, not a bog standard League 2 fixture. To put it in perspective, no wins Rochdale up against top of the league unbeaten Orient. A Rochdale win… 2/1, not even half the return you’d get for a Carlisle win on the same night. Says it all.

Now interestingly that doesn’t necessarily mean they think we’ll go down, only 6th favourites for the drop. As we all know from previous experiences, the worst team doesn’t always go down and that’s likely why the bookies think we’ll just about stay up.

These aren’t my views, I’m just saying what the bookies are telling us.

The bookies had us as relegation certs and Stockport as champions. They haven't got a clue about League 2.
 

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The bookies had us as relegation certs and Stockport as champions. They haven't got a clue about League 2.
That was before a ball was kicked. Most people expected you to struggle.
 

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Another point closer to safety today.

Would love if we could string a couple of wins together and really put some breathing space there before the tough fixtures start to come round.
 

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I think we are a decent manager and physio away from a play off team.

I also think that if we don't change what we are doing we're toast.

Casey
 

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Our manager is targeting 42 points as the target to aim for to stay up.

Another win on Saturday would be a huge step towards that and would nearly put us halfway there. So far so good.
 

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Our manager is targeting 42 points as the target to aim for to stay up.

Another win on Saturday would be a huge step towards that and would nearly put us halfway there. So far so good.

Will you celebrate like mad when we reach 42 points? Or will you then begin to complain that we're not good enough to stay up next season?
 

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Will you celebrate like mad when we reach 42 points? Or will you then begin to complain that we're not good enough to stay up next season?


I wont celebrate, it will be more a sense of relief as it always is.

If we get to around the 40 point mark by Christmas/New Year which is what I’m hoping, I will raise a glass to a half season well done and will look forward to what is ahead over the second half of the season.
 

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I wont celebrate, it will be more a sense of relief as it always is.

If we get to around the 40 point mark by Christmas/New Year which is what I’m hoping, I will raise a glass to a half season well done and will look forward to what is ahead over the second half of the season.

Im starting to believe that if it wasn't for all our injuries, then we'd be the best or at least 2nd best team in the division.
 

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I wont celebrate, it will be more a sense of relief as it always is.

If we get to around the 40 point mark by Christmas/New Year which is what I’m hoping, I will raise a glass to a half season well done and will look forward to what is ahead over the second half of the season.
40 points by mid season would put you on course for 80 points.

Or are you expecting only two draws after the new year to reach the magic 42?
 
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