After Coronavirus - What next for league football? (poll)

[Camborne Gills]

We used to call those scraps from the oil as screed.

 

[Camborne Gills]

and mushy peas...

There used to be a van in the town square that did chips and gravy, i hadn't seen it anywhere else.

 

[northstandexile]

We used to call those scraps from the oil as screed.

we called them ‘fish bits’ even though they didn’t contain any fish.

 

[Chris FGR]

This fella has it right. Well said Mr Argyle

https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/april/chairmans-chat/

What does unify all the lower divisions actually mean? Sharing sponsorship/TV money between 100's of clubs? Same board running 50 divisions?

Increasing promotion/relegation can only realistically happen between league 2 and the Conference anyway, every other league above and below that already relegates 3 or 4.

Great idea maybe, in practice it would be a shitshow.

 

[Indian Dan]

we called them ‘fish bits’ even though they didn’t contain any fish.

Scrag, surely?

 

[Chris FGR]

Anyway the good news is we'll soon be rid of Covid 19, just needs everyone to follow Donald Trump's advice and inject themselves with bleach. Problem solved.

 

[shoddycollins]

Anyway the good news is we'll soon be rid of Covid 19, just needs everyone to follow Donald Trump's advice and inject themselves with bleach. Problem solved.

we'll certainly be rid of covid 19 if everyone does that

 

[shoddycollins]

Scrag, surely?

Can't think what we call them in Cumbria, and my auntie owned a chip shop when I was a kid, but I guess being part of chip-shop royalty meant I never had to resort to eating 'scraps' which is what I've heard them called by a Yorkshire lass, who said she used to enjoy them as a free meal along with 'pea wet' which was the liquid from a tin of peas.

 

[Chief Rocka]

Can't think what we call them in Cumbria, and my auntie owned a chip shop when I was a kid, but I guess being part of chip-shop royalty meant I never had to resort to eating 'scraps' which is what I've heard them called by a Yorkshire lass, who said she used to enjoy them as a free meal along with 'pea wet' which was the liquid from a tin of peas.

That is the most vile thing I've read on this forum to date.

We also call the bits 'scraps' FWIW

 

[Chris FGR]

Drinking the liquid out of tins is good, much better then those shit overpriced health drinks/smoothies. Healthy and cheap.

 

[shoddycollins]

That is the most vile thing I've read on this forum to date.

We also call the bits 'scraps' FWIW

She was a lass in my halls when I was at first year Uni from 'Joooooooooosbureh' and was the most stereotypically Yorkshire person I've ever met. 'Bes thing for't ask fer in cheeeeep shop eeeees peeeeeeeee wet an scraps'

 

[shoddycollins]

Anyway, setting aside the important issues of where the north stops and what you call the bits of batter that fall off in the fryer for just a moment.

With the Conference season now over, the question of what happens to our season has come a-knocking on our door.

Are people still in favour of finishing the season? I still am, for the same reasons that I gave before. How to safely restart football, and what to do once football restarts are really two different questions; because I've seen some arguments for ending the season made out as though it's a choice between protecting public heath and finishing the 19/20 season. The risk that the 20/21 season won't go ahead as a full season, means that if we don't finish 19/20 then we could potentially be looking at a two season gap, with no meaningful football played between 18/19 and 21/22.

While I would relish the opportunity to void Salford City's first season in the league and have a second crack at relegating them I think I'd rather finish a season that is close to the end now.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

Anyway the good news is we'll soon be rid of Covid 19, just needs everyone to follow Donald Trump's advice and inject themselves with bleach. Problem solved.

Time for Imbleachment.

 

[AdamStag]

League One & League Two clubs write to EFL over salary cap introduction


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52398548

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

League One & League Two clubs write to EFL over salary cap introduction


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52398548

Wonder who the 10 are that didn't sign it.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

we called them ‘fish bits’ even though they didn’t contain any fish.

We called them Batter Bits, used to pay 1d for a bag on the way home from Cubs..

 

[Chris FGR]

Anyway, setting aside the important issues of where the north stops and what you call the bits of batter that fall off in the fryer for just a moment.

With the Conference season now over, the question of what happens to our season has come a-knocking on our door.

Are people still in favour of finishing the season? I still am, for the same reasons that I gave before. How to safely restart football, and what to do once football restarts are really two different questions; because I've seen some arguments for ending the season made out as though it's a choice between protecting public heath and finishing the 19/20 season. The risk that the 20/21 season won't go ahead as a full season, means that if we don't finish 19/20 then we could potentially be looking at a two season gap, with no meaningful football played between 18/19 and 21/22.

While I would relish the opportunity to void Salford City's first season in the league and have a second crack at relegating them I think I'd rather finish a season that is close to the end now.

Two main questions imo.

1. Is it safe?

2. Is it financially viable?

For it to be deemed safe enough we need lots more testing, including every player/official every week and for the new infections across the country to have slowed right down, which might be possible in a month or two. Maybe.

Given how it would all be behind closed doors making it financially viable is harder, would need the Prem or football authorities in general to subsidise clubs imo.

Personally I would fuck the season off, award it on ppg and then shut down until there is a vaccine.

 

[shoddycollins]

Two main questions imo.

1. Is it safe?

2. Is it financially viable?

For it to be deemed safe enough we need lots more testing, including every player/official every week and for the new infections across the country to have slowed right down, which might be possible in a month or two. Maybe.

Given how it would all be behind closed doors making it financially viable is harder, would need the Prem or football authorities in general to subsidise clubs imo.

Personally I would fuck the season off, award it on ppg and then shut down until there is a vaccine.

My point though was 'is it safe' isn't a relevant question. Football will resume, at some point, we don't know when, either behind closed doors, or not. None of these unknowns really impact on whether that resumption begins with the last dozen or so games left of 2019/20 or if it begins with the start of a new season, or neither.

 

[Chris FGR]

How can it not be a relevant question?

 

[AdamStag]

Wonder who the 10 are that didn't sign it.

Seems odd. Maybe they’re the ones who want to end the season now? Either way, it appears that 3/4s of the clubs are currently thinking along the same lines

 

[Greenacres]

A quick straw poll among my friends and neighbours, people who I regularly chat with about football, suggests that they all put getting out of the current situation being far more important than resuming competitive football...none of them would be at all bothered if the season was declared null and void and we started looking ahead to when we might be able to start again, whenever that might be.

 

[Indian Dan]

Seems odd. Maybe they’re the ones who want to end the season now? Either way, it appears that 3/4s of the clubs are currently thinking along the same lines

Plymouth are one - their chairman said so. I’d imagine it’d be those clubs who produce the highest income - Sunderland, Ipswich etc.

No one has said, though, what any cap would look like. A % of turnover would be fair - which is pretty much what we have now, isn’t it?

 

[AdamStag]

Plymouth are one - their chairman said so. I’d imagine it’d be those clubs who produce the highest income - Sunderland, Ipswich etc.

No one has said, though, what any cap would look like. A % of turnover would be fair - which is pretty much what we have now, isn’t it?

I think so yeah.

But as I said yesterday, contracts were drawn up with players on a pretty safe assumption (taking into account seasons haven’t not been completed for 80 odd years) that the season would be completed and so would the next - imagine telling this situation to someone at the beginning of the season they’d look at you like you had 2 heads.

On the basis that seasons can’t be completed it’s only fair and right that clubs take action to ensure players only get a similar percentage - not much point in players taking clubs to the cleaners either.

 

[Indian Dan]

Here’s the latest in fantasy dates

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...ans-will-be-able-return-stadium-light-2548904

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Plymouth are one - their chairman said so. I’d imagine it’d be those clubs who produce the highest income - Sunderland, Ipswich etc.

No one has said, though, what any cap would look like. A % of turnover would be fair - which is pretty much what we have now, isn’t it?

Our owners touched on the current cap and said whilst it works to an extent, the loopholes need to be closed. To add to that, I reckon if you're keeping the current system, then the flat rate will be limited to 50% of turnover in both divisions and it MUST be introduced in the Championship, as this is where most the debt in English football lies. FFP model in the Championship is a cop out to let clubs spend ridiculous money, should never have been allowed in the first place.

However, if 37 of the 47 are in favour of a hard cap for the bottom two divisions, then that's the way we're going. I know some clubs, even well run clubs, will be opposed to that and their arguments are indeed logical, but it's far better than a cavalier "spend what you want" attitude that got us all into this mess.

Leveraged buyouts and people loading debts on clubs to prop up other enterprises also need to be outlawed in English football too. The Glazers at Manchester United being evidence of the former Bristol Rovers situation being the evidence of the latter. Such stuff like that has led to a snowball effect in football where it finds itself in a financial black hole today.

 

[AdamStag]

Here’s the latest in fantasy dates

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...ans-will-be-able-return-stadium-light-2548904

1st October

Germany are on about returning in may and have ruled that no fans will be allowed in until 24th October at the earliest - obviously I’ve no clue where they’ve plucked 24th October from but I find it hard to believe we’re going to start similar to them given how much harder it’s hit us.

I’d go as far as the new year

 

[Indian Dan]

Our owners touched on the current cap and said whilst it works to an extent, the loopholes need to be closed. To add to that, I reckon if you're keeping the current system, then the flat rate will be limited to 50% of turnover in both divisions and it MUST be introduced in the Championship, as this is where most the debt in English football lies. FFP model in the Championship is a cop out to let clubs spend ridiculous money, should never have been allowed in the first place.

However, if 37 of the 47 are in favour of a hard cap for the bottom two divisions, then that's the way we're going. I know some clubs, even well run clubs, will be opposed to that and their arguments are indeed logical, but it's far better than a cavalier "spend what you want" attitude that got us all into this mess.

Leveraged buyouts and people loading debts on clubs to prop up other enterprises also need to be outlawed in English football too. The Glazers at Manchester United being evidence of the former Bristol Rovers situation being the evidence of the latter. Such stuff like that has led to a snowball effect in football where it finds itself in a financial black hole today.

The problem with the Championship is how clubs with no PL parachute money can compete with those that do. If there is a cap based on income those ex PL clubs will have a huge advantage - more than they already have.

 

[shoddycollins]

How can it not be a relevant question?

Because whether you favour finishing 19/20 or not doesn't change the date when football resumes (which football itself has little say over). A lot of the arguments for cancelling it I have seen have been suggesting that playing it to its conclusion would endanger public health, whereas cancelling it and getting on with 20/21 somehow won't.

 

[Indian Dan]

I see the Cloggies have binned and voided their season

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52418048

 

[AdamStag]

It’s coming.

If Holland have banned sporting events until then and haven’t got it as bad as us I find it hard to believe how it’s possible to continue if we say the same here