Awford Gone

[Gashead]

Think Chesterfield should just appoint Richardson as manager - seems the logical decision to make now.

Always rated him when he was at Accy and he knows the club, was actually surprised he went to Chesterfield as assistant in the first place.

 

[TheWednesday]

Cracking appointment for Portsmouth, Cooks done well everywhere he's been and I can see him getting you out of League Two at the absolute minimum. Think the timing of the approach was a bit disrespecful in all honesty though, I reckon it's had some form of an impact on Chesterfield's play-off semi final.

 

[PositiveOmen]

I have nothing against Portsmouth. And I wish Cook all the best (club legend).

But I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't get something out of it going tits up, and Rico carrying on his work. If not just so we don't get the humiliation of you passing us by.

 

[Duffy]

On paper it looks a good appointment although it comes with its own pressure. Not sure why one or two seem baffled why he would leave Chesterfield for Portsmouth, or the timing of it. Managers will always want to manage big clubs and Portsmouth will find their natural level again which is higher than Chesterfield, the timing is pretty irrelevant.

 

[daviejones]

Not really, considering one was in with a shout of promotion to the Championship and the other was a mid-table League 2 team this season. The main reason you'd go to a big club is to get up to a higher league which makes it sort of a backwards move? Plus if he screws up at Portsmouth he's back to square one whereas he's currently at a club which clearly suits him and which he's doing a very good job with. Regardless of whether Portsmouth's natural level is higher than Chesterfield's, what are the chances he is there long enough to get them to that stage?

 

[PositiveOmen]

It's down to money, that's why he's gone to the awkward league, awkward relocation and the trigger happy club. He openly said to our media team that he wanted to be on a beach in 5 years, not managing.

If that's his aspiration, then in essence he becomes that 30 some year old player that goes where the security and contract length is.

Portsmouth, from what I've heard, are paying some higher scale league one wages for players such as tubbs.. How could we ever compete with that.

 

[Duffy]

Not really, considering one was in with a shout of promotion to the Championship and the other was a mid-table League 2 team this season. The main reason you'd go to a big club is to get up to a higher league which makes it sort of a backwards move? Plus if he screws up at Portsmouth he's back to square one whereas he's currently at a club which clearly suits him and which he's doing a very good job with. Regardless of whether Portsmouth's natural level is higher than Chesterfield's, what are the chances he is there long enough to get them to that stage?

While I would agree it's a risk and the pressure will be on him there is no doubt which club has the better potential. There are plenty of examples over the years of managers making what look initially like backwards steps in order to move forward. If Portsmouth are now on an even footing they could well be above Chesterfield in a couple of seasons. But as you say for him personally he needs to perform to still be there at that point. Time will tell.

 

[womble76]

It's down to money, that's why he's gone to the awkward league, awkward relocation and the trigger happy club. He openly said to our media team that he wanted to be on a beach in 5 years, not managing.

If that's his aspiration, then in essence he becomes that 30 some year old player that goes where the security and contract length is.

Portsmouth, from what I've heard, are paying some higher scale league one wages for players such as tubbs.. How could we ever compete with that.

Pompey are paying Tubbs less than we did. So not really higher scale league 1

 

[PositiveOmen]

Might be utter shite, but one of the members of our board knows someone involved in the club, who claimed that tubbs was on 5,250 a week. Whether it's true or not, who knows. But if they can shift 250k for Cook, Rochardson and Nixon - it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

The reason a manager drops to a bigger club in a poorer situation is mostly down to the fact if they can get them up you can possibly get them up again.

Portsmouth at some point will go from L2 to Championship, may take afew years, may not take too long, but the chance is there for a manager to drag that club up 2 divisions and easily keep it there, with possible chances of pushing them to a play-off spot.

With a small club your ok in that frame of mind if a rich owner is there, otherwise its very possible you can be up at top then completely collapse just by the removal of 1-2 players you cannot replace in your small squad (Tranmere 2 seasons ago)

I still think personally I'd gone with Allen, but then 6 months ago I'd said Micky Adams was the perfect L2 choice so is never a guarantee

 

[womble76]

Might be utter shite, but one of the members of our board knows someone involved in the club, who claimed that tubbs was on 5,250 a week. Whether it's true or not, who knows. But if they can shift 250k for Cook, Rochardson and Nixon - it wouldn't surprise me.

Tubbs was on 6 grans a week at Bournmouth. We paid just under half of that to loan him. Going to portsmouth at that amount would sound about right as he left us for a slight overall pay cut.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

It's not horrible football at all, yes it's a little direct at times but you will never have looked as dangerous from set pieces. Paul Cook would be a good appointment for you no doubt about it, if Chesterfield fail to go up I think he'll jump at the chance.

It was fucking vile football.

 

[Duffy]

It's down to money, that's why he's gone to the awkward league, awkward relocation and the trigger happy club. He openly said to our media team that he wanted to be on a beach in 5 years, not managing.

If that's his aspiration, then in essence he becomes that 30 some year old player that goes where the security and contract length is.

Portsmouth, from what I've heard, are paying some higher scale league one wages for players such as tubbs.. How could we ever compete with that.

The reason a manager drops to a bigger club in a poorer situation is mostly down to the fact if they can get them up you can possibly get them up again.

Portsmouth at some point will go from L2 to Championship, may take afew years, may not take too long, but the chance is there for a manager to drag that club up 2 divisions and easily keep it there, with possible chances of pushing them to a play-off spot.

With a small club your ok in that frame of mind if a rich owner is there, otherwise its very possible you can be up at top then completely collapse just by the removal of 1-2 players you cannot replace in your small squad (Tranmere 2 seasons ago)

I still think personally I'd gone with Allen, but then 6 months ago I'd said Micky Adams was the perfect L2 choice so is never a guarantee

Very true. You could make the argument that he had a good set up at Chesterfield and it's a risk, but it's a risk at any club where a manager can go from hero to villain in the space of a month, Chesterfield have a poor couple of months the start of next season and the fans would be on his back as they would at any clubs. Sometimes opportunities come up in life you just can't refuse.

 

[WAP]

Maybe Cook coming down may persuade Jed to stay.

 

[TheWednesday]

It was fucking vile football.

Bit strong.

 

[JSMITH083]

on a slightly different scale, but similar to when steve evans left crawley for rotherham. crawley being league 1 at the time and rotherham being in league 2. he said at the time that he felt he could take rotherham further than he could take crawley, and cook may well be thinking the same thing.

 

[SamScfc]

250K compo for a manager is mental at this level, especially for Pompey who you'd think would be more careful, I wasn't aware they were chucking that type of money about, there's plenty of good out of work managers available and if Cook doesn't get you up, it's a risk backfired, plus what happens if you want to sack him, you'd have to pay him off probably more than 250K?

I hope it works out cos I like Pompey but it's a big risk for someone who is relatively inexperienced still.

 

[WAP]

I think the board feel its the safest option, we've paid the price for the last 3 appointments so this is their way of assuring us that we do have ambition To go back up to the Championship.

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

How does this show ambition to get to the Championship? He's never managed higher than League 1 and hardly has the most glittering record in management. Sure he's done well this season but I wouldn't be getting a boner over this just yet.

 

[WAP]

How does this show ambition to get to the Championship? He's never managed higher than League 1 and hardly has the most glittering record in management. Sure he's done well this season but I wouldn't be getting a boner over this just yet.

I'd say hiring a manager who won the L2 title last season and got to the playoffs this season is showing ambition.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Bit strong.

The 5-1 defeat at Stevenage was horrific