Carlisle floods updates

[daviejones]

Considering the amount of money in English football, I hope Carlisle aren't left to fund and organise the repairs to their ground alone. If the ground floor level of the stadium is fucked and the pitch needs entirely relaying, then you're talking hundreds of thousands. I'm sure insurance will cover some costs? But there's probably going to be other costs that have to come out of the football club coffers.

I think this is more than likely what will happen for the most part. I'm not expecting any big clubs to offer money to help, despite how insignificant an amount it would be to a team like Man City to cover all the costs, and how much good publicity it would get them. Clubs around our level will make offers such as those made by Welling but for the most part I'm guessing this will be our burden, especially once the media stops reporting it.

One of our reporters has put some pictures up of some of the offices and what looked like a function room, all of them are completely ruined and will probably need everything replacing which won't come cheap obviously, and then the relaying of the pitch must also be pretty expensive. Insurance won't cover all of this, it probably won't cover a lot of it actually, so I guess it's just a waiting game to see how much this'll hit us financially.

All this talk of us having money in the coffers to get some new players in January and push for promotion, that's probably up in the air to say the least now which means we'll probably have to push on with this squad for the rest of the season. Shame really because we've done so well to get the money from Potts, Dempsey and getting the Liverpool tie but it'll probably be too soon in January to consider spending a decent amount of money when the extent of the costs from the floods might still not be known.

 

[shoddycollins]

Surely this is the perfect time for the billionaire to put some money into the club... oh, wait. I almost completely forgot for a second that there was no billionaire.

 

[daviejones]

Hope it's alright for me to stick this in here if it hasn't already been posted http://campaign.justgiving.com/charity/cumbriafoundation/cumbriafloodappeal2015

 

[Pooliekev]

If it's any help, we relaid our pitch in the close season and it cost 100K. I would think it's very difficult to get cover for a pitch as the insurers willl say it's an act of God and deny any claim as the bastards alway try to do.

 

[Womble98]

Any of the Carlisle fans on here had any damage?

 

[SF_]

Any of the Carlisle fans on here had any damage?

They're born with it.

 

[daviejones]

Any of the Carlisle fans on here had any damage?

Not me, but I'll probably be hosting family over Christmas who have. Football the least of some peoples' worries obviously so I guess I shouldn't really worry about that quite yet.

 

[Alan Partridge]

I lost one of my 12 toes, nightmare.

My house is fine though...

 

[shoddycollins]

Surprised at the amount of fans on our forum moaning about the prospect of having to play a home game in Preston because it isn't a five minute walk from their door... seems people would rather have it, and any other home games until Brunton Park is playable, postponed.

Just a quick check. If we don't have BP back by the end of January then we'll miss 4 league home games: Notts, Hartlepool, Plymouth and York (and also Yeovil in the cup, but I don't count that as we'd have no choice but to play it somewhere). We'd have 14 weeks in which to fit those games in.

Our game at Wimbledon has already been postponed as we are in the third round of the cup, so this already needs to fit in midweek somewhere. If we get into the 4th round of the cup, another Saturday game will have to be moved, so we'd then have 6 games to fit midweek, and two of those 14 weeks already have midweek games, so altogether 7 or 8 midweek games across 14 weeks.

With that number of midweek games its' almost inevitable there will be spells where we play Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, and where we're due to play Friday-Monday around Easter weekend we could end up with three games in six days should we have to fit midweek games in before or after Easter.

And that's assuming we're ready to play at BP again by the start of February. If we lose another week and can't host Accrington on the 6th, we'd have 8 or 9 midweek games across 13 weeks. What if we need a replay against Yeovil, or make the 5th round of the FA Cup? Or what if we lose an away game such as Accrington or Morecambe to poor weather?

 

[HertsWolf]

You could groundshare with Pompey.
But more seriously, wouldn't Dumfries be a bit more realistic than Preston (Or even Annan)?

 

[shoddycollins]

You could groundshare with Pompey.
But more seriously, wouldn't Dumfries be a bit more realistic than Preston (Or even Annan)?

Dumfries have astroturf, don't know about Annan, but Preston on the train might be more convenient for more fans than Annan on the bus.

 

[HertsWolf]

Dumfries have astroturf, don't know about Annan, but Preston on the train might be more convenient for more fans than Annan on the bus.

What have y'all got against Annan station? (But yes, I think Galabank also has Astroturf)

 

[shoddycollins]

What have y'all got against Annan station? (But yes, I think Galabank also has Astroturf)

Never knew Annan had trains. Preston seems like a more appealing venue though, perhaps a bit more exciting for people and easier to get all the United fans to go down together.

I was hoping for more of a show of solidarity among our fans (hopefully it's just a few moaners on our forum dominating discussions). We could try and make this into an occasion rather than an irritation, we've taken 5,000 before to an away game at Preston so why not 5,000 for a home game at Preston?

It could happen if people showed a bit more positivity; clubs like ours don't often get any coverage in the national media so even though the circumstances are grim, it's good to get a bit of the spotlight for once and attract some attention, for the right reasons in terms of how the club themselves have been portrayed. Maybe people might even start to notice our 4 goals per game (for and against) average this season.

If Virgin Trains or other businesses/media get involved, capitalising on the chance of some great publicity by offering anything just to make it more likely that people will decide to attend (I mention VT because they run the trains between Carlisle and Preston, and also sponsor both clubs(, maybe even people who don't normally attend but have had their attention grabbed by images of pitches underwater and players helping clear out flooded homes, then we could at least see a decent turn-out of United fans swelled by a decent County contingent and smattering of interested neutrals. Would one of the TV companies, for example consider paying for a coachload of Welling United fans to attend one of the games we play away from BP (Welling are at home on the 19th sadly)?

A lot of people on the forum are moaning about it being too far and they don't want to go and we'll only get a few hundred fans and how awful it will be.

 

[HertsWolf]

Never knew Annan had trains. Preston seems like a more appealing venue though, perhaps a bit more exciting for people and easier to get all the United fans to go down together.

You just called Preston exciting. You've won the hearts and affections of a lot of the Preston luvvies here.
If you do go to Preston, look out for the bus station. Preston folk consider it to be the second Parthenon, the great architectural icon of Lancashire....the angel of the Ribble. Or something.

 

[shoddycollins]

You just called Preston exciting. You've won the hearts and affections of a lot of the Preston luvvies here.
If you do go to Preston, do look out for the bus station. Preston folk consider it to be the second Parthenon, the great architectural icon of Lancashire....the angel of the Ribble. Or something.

On the other hand, what I actually said was it was a 'bit more exciting' than Annan.

I've seen the bus station, last time we played them we parked at a friend of mine who lived over the road from it.

 

[rudebwoyben]

Again, I'm pretty sure that Annan is nowhere near League 2 standard as a ground.

 

[shoddycollins]

Again, I'm pretty sure that Annan is nowhere near League 2 standard as a ground.

Here it is, and that looks very astroturfy

 

[rudebwoyben]

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/...e-two/annan-athletic-galabank.html?expand=all
Not to mention that the ground capacity is only 2,500 with 500 seats and only one proper terrace!

 

[Carver]

Surely this is the perfect time for the billionaire to put some money into the club... oh, wait. I almost completely forgot for a second that there was no billionaire.

WHAT? THERE'S NO BILLIONAIRE??

THEY LIED TO US!!

 

[Alan Partridge]

... why would any Welling fans wanna come and watch us?

 

[shoddycollins]

... why would any Welling fans wanna come and watch us?

I was riffing ideas, you need to engage with some more blue-sky thinking

 

[LadyWomble]

Sorry to hear Carlisle fans are whingeing about playing at Preston though hopefully just a tiny minority. Typical football fans, eh? Never happy unless they've got something to moan about. Never mind that conditions at your ground sound bad, let alone what's happening to people, their homes and businesses in the real world up there.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I think its great we're getting places sorted and nice to see the football family help.

but I think our club needs financial support here from FA and FL for our fanbase.

it may sound like a good alternative but people forget we're 2 weeks off Christmas, I for one cannot at all afford that extra £10-20 quid it will cost to get to Preston, then the extra £10-20 quid for the hartlepool, Plymouth or York games (and maybe Yeovil)

it isn't a time where your average person in Carlisle can suddenly at a whim afford another £100 expenses.

surely there should be some form of support funding there among the FL or FA......or do we think its gone to executives or Fifa. We could do with some financial support so buses to these grounds was free.............not at a cost.

 

[SF_]

we've taken 5,000 before to an away game at Preston

When?

 

[Carver]

Sorry to hear Carlisle fans are whingeing about playing at Preston though hopefully just a tiny minority. Typical football fans, eh? Never happy unless they've got something to moan about. Never mind that conditions at your ground sound bad, let alone what's happening to people, their homes and businesses in the real world up there.

Them whiners do my head in the ungrateful idiots, their complaints don't deserve to be heard.

 

[shoddycollins]

When?

The 3-3 game, the first season you were in League One, we had almost 5,000 there.

 

[SF_]

The 3-3 game, the first season you were in League One, we had almost 5,000 there.

Thought it was around 3,600 myself but don't know for sure.

As for this Notts County game, I wouldn't be surprised if a few North end fans attend with a lot of people swerving paying £40 a ticket at Leeds.

 

[hellogregory]

When?

My dad reckons we had about 10k there once when he was a boy. So probably mid to late 70s time.

 

[Alan Partridge]

There was a few of us down there in the 90s when we hammered them (3-0?) and it all kicked off in the park at FT.

We'll be lucky to have 1-2k travel down, I reckon. More hassle than owt.

 

[hellogregory]

Yeah I know quite a lot that aren't bothering, with the away games coming up, Xmas etc.

I'd say if virgin trains were to do something, that might tempt a few more.