Carlisle floods updates

[Richard Cranium]

Do you think you'll be back playing at BP come the end of Feb? Not read or seen anything about a potential date for you to be playing back there.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I think we are all guessing it will be the same as last time which was about a month so we'd maybe be expecting the York game I suppose.

but will be lots of ifs and buts.....whether any structures are damaged after a second set of floods, what level of damage, how quick they get insurance pay-outs when a second occurrence and then the 2 biggest problems.

firstly whether cumbria gets hit again with bad weather, it was a month later and heading out of winter last time, this time we've not hit the worst yet. Secondly is the Pitch...............is it beyond repair, has it been contaminated, does it just need dried out and then perfectly fine.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Well April is a long way off, That's when we are due in Carlisle anyway, So hopefully you are back in by then as we have booked the weekend up there so looking forward to getting pissed with you lot Friday/Saturday night!

 

[shoddycollins]

The Blackpool fans on BHS are now discussing if they can cause such a disturbance that the game gets abandoned. Comments like 'protest inside the ground and cause havoc' and 'they wouldn't care about us so fuck 'em' have cropped up.

If they do that then all sympathy for them goes out the window and the police can drag their sorry asses to the nick leaving the Oystons to rape them all the way to the Lancashire Combination League for all I care.

I'm sure our lot were aware that playing a home game at Bloomfield Road would come with baggage, but perhaps there was simply no other option forthcoming.

The curious thing is that they seem to be of the opinion that disrupting this game is the perfect way to create negative publicity for the Oystons, but I'm not sure how Blackpool fans rioting in the stadium during an FA Cup game between Carlisle and Yeovil could have that effect.

The media have paid a lot of attention to our plight and the clubs who have helped us out so far have been congratulated by both our fans and by elements in the media. It may be that the Oystons' main motive for offering help is just a cynical attempt to get some good publicity, however if Blackpool fans want to stand on the side of football fans against those who are killing football then they should be with us, even if that means they have to take the same side as the Oystons for once. They can still criticise the Oystons and accuse them of having picked the right side for the wrong reasons, but to take the opposite side just to spite the Oystons, threaten Carlisle fans, accuse us of being in the pockets of the Oystons, and attempt to place an obstacle between ourselves and recovery will only result in even worse publicity for them. They risk losing a lot of sympathy from football fans up and down the country if they go through with what they're planning to do. It may not get the Oyston's much sympathy but it'll surely lead a lot of people to say that they're just as bad as one-another.

TLDR; Blackpool fans... just because the Oystons might be doing a good thing for once, doesn't mean you have to take the opposite side just to spite them. If Karl Oyston said 'punching old women is wrong' would all the Blackpool fans start roaming the streets looking for grannys to knock out?

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

I couldn't help but notice ....as soon as I mention it , a decision was made ......just saying like !

 

[AmbiguousBon]

 

[Carver]

All this crap I'm reading about Blackpool fans wanting to get our match against Yeovil abandoned really pisses me off. If they do then they'd be disrupting our season even more and Yeovil's too!

 

[Vanni]

Well, if the Blackpool fans think that disrupting a match between 2 sides they don't give a fcuk about is the way to go, then any sympathy towards their plight goes out the window afaic. But it could be just a few idiots on social media trying to look tough so I guess we have to wait and see.

 

[Carver]

Well, if the Blackpool fans think that disrupting a match between 2 sides they don't give a fcuk about is the way to go, then any sympathy towards their plight goes out the window afaic. But it could be just a few idiots on social media trying to look tough so I guess we have to wait and see.

Hopefully it is just a load of bollocks talk on the internet, imagine it though travelling down there for a home game and Yeovil fans travelling all the way up there, to then have to leave because a load of moron scum of the country invade the pitch at half time getting the match abandoned. Another fixture to add to the pile up.

 

[Richard Cranium]

He wants putting down for signing off with his initials.

 

[MrGloverLover]

Yeah, there's a massive history between us and Carlisle. Local derby innit.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

to be honest reading the froums i am thinking they may be best to find a different ground for it

not worth the risk in cost to turn up and have it called off during game, is other options.

 

[shoddycollins]

Well, if the Blackpool fans think that disrupting a match between 2 sides they don't give a fcuk about is the way to go, then any sympathy towards their plight goes out the window afaic. But it could be just a few idiots on social media trying to look tough so I guess we have to wait and see.

These opinions have cropped up on both the Blackpool fans' forums, I would say about 50% in favour, 25% sceptical, 25% against so there is definitely some sort of momentum behind the idea, remember they did get their last match of last season abandoned at half-time. Though it's not unanimous, many Blackpool fans feel the same way posters on here do.

Don't get me wrong, the Oystons are scumbags (if everything I've read about them turns out to be true ) and what they've done to that football club shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged. However the Blackpool fans, in their battle against them seem to have developed a sort of siege mentality where they are blind to things going on outside of their own struggle to save their club.

I actually read one of them talk, as though it was a good thing, that this was a great opportunity to let their feelings be know without Blackpool FC incurring any sanctions, as surely any sanctions taken as a result of crowd trouble would go to Carlisle, being the official home team for that game. I'm honestly not surprised that this is their attitude, they have a just cause in saving a football club from the horrors of parasitic ownership but their means of furthering that cause is to not care about the effect they might have on other football clubs, just ask Huddersfield.

It seems that should they get our match abandoned, forcing us to play yet another game on a Tuesday night, adding to our fixture pile-up, costing us and our fans money and adding yet more miles to a frankly ridiculous odometer for the season, or worse, causing the FA to take action against us and throw us out of the FA Cup for 'failing to control our fans', then not one Blackpool fan will miss a wink of sleep over that.

If there is no threat of trouble from the Blackpool fans, then I'm sure many Carlisle fans and Yeovil alike would be happy to support their cause. Time shall tell.

 

[Pooliekev]

Fair to say if you know about it, the FIU know about and I'm sure they'll be on it. They don't have a lot to do these days, they've only got 1000 names on their list.

 

[SF_]

Blackpool fans being self-obsessed c***, shocker.

Bar the Huddersfield game, their normal protests consist of 20 people hanging around the statue outside, I wouldn't worry.

 

[PoolieTom]

Billy 'the goal machine' Paynter should be making a return just in time to bang 3 goals in on his return to Carlisle

 

[shoddycollins]

daviejones

I see you've gone on BHS to put our situation across to them, and happy to see it was a well written plea for sanity that most of them agree with.

There's just the one guy now it seems, the one with the Breaking Bad avatar who is determined that if we play at Bloomfield Road we are as bad as the Oystons, I guess his views might be shared by those who are apparently meeting in pubs to arrange this stuff. It hasn't been comfirmed yet whether the Oystons will get anything from this game but we are without a football stadium and beggars can't really be choosers.

The stakes for us are higher than for them though... this is a long-lasting boycott from their point of view, so a couple of thousand neutral fans attending a single game isn't really going to hurt their cause all that much. I don't see why we should forego supporting our team through this difficult time just to avoid putting a tiny little dent in the effectiveness of their boycott, even if we do sympathise with them.

What they need to realise is that this is an FA Cup 3rd round tie, and against League-2 opposition. It's a great opportunity to get to the 4th round where we're more likely to draw a money-spinning Premier League club. If we're to get there, and we could certainly do with the money right now, then our team needs all the support it can get.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

We will have signed 2 or 3 other strikers by then plus a new midfield ...The club have promised new signings in the window and they really really mean it .....This time !

 

[shoddycollins]

We will have signed 2 or 3 other strikers by then plus a new midfield ...The club have promised new signings in the window and they really really mean it .....This time !

I'm sure the spin will be when Billy Bunter returns from injury that he's 'like a new signing'.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

The legacy of having Peter Mandelson as an ex president is that someone has learnt political goblydegook at the club ....same rubbish is spouted everytime the window is about to open ...

 

[Destruction]

daviejones

I see you've gone on BHS to put our situation across to them, and happy to see it was a well written plea for sanity that most of them agree with.

There's just the one guy now it seems, the one with the Breaking Bad avatar who is determined that if we play at Bloomfield Road we are as bad as the Oystons, I guess his views might be shared by those who are apparently meeting in pubs to arrange this stuff. It hasn't been comfirmed yet whether the Oystons will get anything from this game but we are without a football stadium and beggars can't really be choosers.

The stakes for us are higher than for them though... this is a long-lasting boycott from their point of view, so a couple of thousand neutral fans attending a single game isn't really going to hurt their cause all that much. I don't see why we should forego supporting our team through this difficult time just to avoid putting a tiny little dent in the effectiveness of their boycott, even if we do sympathise with them.

What they need to realise is that this is an FA Cup 3rd round tie, and against League-2 opposition. It's a great opportunity to get to the 4th round where we're more likely to draw a money-spinning Premier League club. If we're to get there, and we could certainly do with the money right now, then our team needs all the support it can get.

Blackpool fans are the whiniest c*** on earth, but they are also spineless turds so I'm sure your match will pass off peacefully.

Just remember in future that they deserve no sympathy. They are boycotting their club because it was relegated, like a dozen other clubs every single season. And then the nasty Mr Oyston took a fan to court who posted some of the vilest accusations you could ever see. They are most deluded fanbase in English football.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I can see why Blackpool fans think it will be a good opportunity because the match will have little security and their team will get no punishments for it.

but it may lead to afew of them getting lamped in the face by some of our less patient fans if they did try it i'd think, it wouldn't get too warm a reception by either set of fans from other clubs....depends what they re thinking I suppose.

but its a protest to nothing really as I doubt Oystons whatever they think will be getting any money on this one, we'd have other options if we had to pay, especially in FA cup when ground restrictions are less limited. This just gets them bad press to fanbase and little else.

 

[shoddycollins]

This just gets them bad press to fanbase and little else.

Most of them are aware of this:

Carlisle United have the sympathy of the nation at the moment, touch this game and we will lose any support from others we had. The fans will look the bad ones and it will play into Oystons hands.

It may seem a fairly obvious point disrupting what many see as a good cause won't win them any fans; but it just seems that among a certain percent this siege mentality has set in where anyone who isn't prepared to walk over hot-coals for their cause is the enemy and must be treated with suspicion.

The sensible way for them to turn this to their advantage would be to try and out-generous the Oystons (if indeed we are being given the stadium at-cost as Preston and Blackburn are doing, and Newcastle reportedly offered to do). Protest against the Oystons as normal, don't try and antagonise Carlisle or Yeovil fans entering the stadium, use the gathering of people to raise money for the flood appeal.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I actually think their best protest would be to come to this and show more of their fans would pay to go to an FA cup 3rd round game between 2 sides they do not care about from a lower division than will pay to watch their own club.

but i'm not fully going to slate their fans because I know we had some sh*tty crap during Knighton's end and I know the preston fans say its only come as things go bad,b ut that happened with us and Knighton it was all pals together on the rise then utter hate on the fall.

but I still do not think we'll be paying them anything, our money seems to have gone to pay for travel situations.

 

[shoddycollins]

I actually think their best protest would be to come to this and show more of their fans would pay to go to an FA cup 3rd round game between 2 sides they do not care about from a lower division than will pay to watch their own club.

but i'm not fully going to slate their fans because I know we had some sh*tty crap during Knighton's end and I know the preston fans say its only come as things go bad,b ut that happened with us and Knighton it was all pals together on the rise then utter hate on the fall.

but I still do not think we'll be paying them anything, our money seems to have gone to pay for travel situations.

Would be nice if they could attend and put money in our coffers, I'm sure Yeovil could do with a bit too as both clubs missed out on the payday you hope to get by getting into the 3rd round of the cup. It would send a strong message to the Oystons that this is the size of the support they've alienated.

I understand Destruction's point, they're not the first club to suffer at the hands of crap owners, and like us with Knighton there was a honeymoon period where past indiscretions weren't given as much attention because we were doing well, but instead stored up to come out when things stopped going well. From what I gather, moral objections regarding Owen Oyston's criminal conviction and some suggestions of shady business practice or general incompetency (starting a season with only 8 players) are the fuel on the fire, getting relegated was the spark that lit it and then the legal action against Blackpool fans (rightly or wrongly) was an extra can of petrol on top of the inferno. Their situation isn't unique in football but perhaps the shitstorm it has turned into is unprecedented.

 

[Carver]

Well done DavieJones for posting on their messageboard, looks like the Blackpool fans are now understanding how bad and unfair it would be to try and get our match abandoned.

 

[Carver]

We will have signed 2 or 3 other strikers by then plus a new midfield ...The club have promised new signings in the window and they really really mean it .....This time !

So Hartlepool are signing more dross then? Oh no we're shitting our pants!

 

[shoddycollins]

So Hartlepool are signing more dross then? Oh no we're shitting our pants!

Alex Marrow is still looking for a club, surprised Hartlepool haven't signed him yet. He looks just like Shevchenko.

 

[Destruction]

Would be nice if they could attend and put money in our coffers, I'm sure Yeovil could do with a bit too as both clubs missed out on the payday you hope to get by getting into the 3rd round of the cup. It would send a strong message to the Oystons that this is the size of the support they've alienated.

I understand Destruction's point, they're not the first club to suffer at the hands of crap owners, and like us with Knighton there was a honeymoon period where past indiscretions weren't given as much attention because we were doing well, but instead stored up to come out when things stopped going well. From what I gather, moral objections regarding Owen Oyston's criminal conviction and some suggestions of shady business practice or general incompetency (starting a season with only 8 players) are the fuel on the fire, getting relegated was the spark that lit it and then the legal action against Blackpool fans (rightly or wrongly) was an extra can of petrol on top of the inferno. Their situation isn't unique in football but perhaps the shitstorm it has turned into is unprecedented.

They didn't give a shit about his criminal convictions when they were in the premier league cha.

 

[daviejones]

daviejones

I see you've gone on BHS to put our situation across to them, and happy to see it was a well written plea for sanity that most of them agree with.

There's just the one guy now it seems, the one with the Breaking Bad avatar who is determined that if we play at Bloomfield Road we are as bad as the Oystons, I guess his views might be shared by those who are apparently meeting in pubs to arrange this stuff. It hasn't been comfirmed yet whether the Oystons will get anything from this game but we are without a football stadium and beggars can't really be choosers.

The stakes for us are higher than for them though... this is a long-lasting boycott from their point of view, so a couple of thousand neutral fans attending a single game isn't really going to hurt their cause all that much. I don't see why we should forego supporting our team through this difficult time just to avoid putting a tiny little dent in the effectiveness of their boycott, even if we do sympathise with them.

What they need to realise is that this is an FA Cup 3rd round tie, and against League-2 opposition. It's a great opportunity to get to the 4th round where we're more likely to draw a money-spinning Premier League club. If we're to get there, and we could certainly do with the money right now, then our team needs all the support it can get.

I had to post something seeing as the 'fans' who are considering trying to get the match postponed will most likely post on, or at least look at, their board every now and then. It's disgraceful to even consider using this as a stick to poke their owners with, and more so to try and piss them off by ruining ours and Yeovil's game. Have to say if they did pull it off I think they'd very quickly go from the football club with the shitty owners to the football club with the shitty fans, think they'd lose a lot of support from the wider football community in the process as some of their fans have alluded to. Up to them now, obviously there's not much we can do if they decide to go ahead but I think it'd be a pretty big mistake on their part for the sake of annoying their owner a bit.