Clubs in this league in size order

[PUSBCCFC]

Apparently fans got fed up of finishing bottom half in the top flight I heard the other day

In all fairness, all we had to look forward to was the last few games of the season.

 

[PUSBCCFC]

In a modern day world if Coventry kept limping to Premier League survival they'd have stayed up every year and sold out their ground every week because they'd probably break their transfer record every season to sign an international striker who scored 20+ in a European backwater like West Brom and Sunderland do.

But in the 90s the Premier League lacked the financial power of Serie A, there were rarely marquee signings for the smaller clubs in the top flight and the attitude was pretty much the norm of any stagnant football club lower down in the football pyramid, attendances would decline if no progress in the league or in the squad was being made.

Yeah we just slowly fell down. Some may argue that a few seasons going up and down is more fun that finishing mid-table in the Prem. I have started to notice empty seats at West Brom, Stoke and Villa... Why? Because they do naff all!

 

[blademan89]

Yeah we just slowly fell down. Some may argue that a few seasons going up and down is more fun that finishing mid-table in the Prem. I have started to notice empty seats at West Brom, Stoke and Villa... Why? Because they do naff all!

Id agree as much as we all want to be there what is the actual aim when your there. Your in a league where you can never ever challenge near the top.

 

[TomPNE94]

Id agree as much as we all want to be there what is the actual aim when your there. Your in a league where you can never ever challenge near the top.

I'd be happy with 1 season there, but I wouldn't want to be like West Brom or Stoke. After the one season though, what's the point?

The main reason you support a football club is to see them promoted and be successful, but after the prem season, what's the point??

 

[TTOCS]

Top six in order of likelihood to sell out Wembley, talking around forty thousand.

Bristol City
Coventry City
Preston North End
Gillingham
Swindon
Bradford

Sheff Utd vying with Bradford for 6th.

 

[TTOCS]

I'd be happy with 1 season there, but I wouldn't want to be like West Brom or Stoke. After the one season though, what's the point?

The main reason you support a football club is to see them promoted and be successful, but after the prem season, what's the point??

Aspirations to play Man Utd and Arsenal every season rather than Rotherham and Brentford. Possibility of European away days...

Count me in.

 

[PUSBCCFC]

Top six in order of likelihood to sell out Wembley, talking around forty thousand.

Bristol City
Coventry City
Preston North End
Gillingham
Swindon
Bradford

Sheff Utd vying with Bradford for 6th.

We would sell 40k in no time for a JPT final and then go back to 8k at the Ricoh a week later.

 

[PUSBCCFC]

Aspirations to play Man Utd and Arsenal every season rather than Rotherham and Brentford. Possibility of European away days...

Count me in.

Unless you are one of the big clubs, European away days are out of the window. Southampton have just got lucky this year.

 

[Bottega Don]

We're obviously one of the smaller clubs in this divison, I would put us on par with teams like Rochdale, Walsall and Colchester. Only Fleetwood, Crawley and Yeovil are probably smaller clubs.

 

[This Charming Mike]

Unless you are one of the big clubs, European away days are out of the window. Southampton have just got lucky this year.

In the past few years, the likes of Stoke, Swansea, Wigan and Birmingham have all played in Europe....

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

With the FA Cup Runner up no longer getting Europa League qualification minnows in Europe will be on the decline unless they win a trophy a la Wigan, Swansea, Portsmouth and Birmingham in recent years.

 

[Daveyjames]

Yes I think our close proximity to London means we always take a big crowd to Wembley; 1999 P/off final 48,000. 2000 P/off final 44,000. 2010 P/off final 38,000.

 

[Bacchus]

I'd say:

Sheffield United
PNE
Bradford
Barnsley
Bristol City
Notts County
Port Vale
Swindon

The rest in some order

Colchester
Yeovil
Fleetwood
Crawley

I don't count Coventry anymore as they just aren't the same club anymore and have become something very alien to the original club, SISU have effectively killed the club and put it in terminal decline by moving it. Unless something very dramatic happens to rescue them from SISU, I would not be surprised one bit if they end up being liquidated at some point in the next decade. Relegation if it happens this season will finish them off which is why I think it matters more than anything that they survive this season as it's very easy to see it as a fight for the club's future existence.

 

[blademan89]

Top six in order of likelihood to sell out Wembley, talking around forty thousand.

Bristol City
Coventry City
Preston North End
Gillingham
Swindon
Bradford

Sheff Utd vying with Bradford for 6th.

The thought of sitting with 25/30000 people who never go to any other game how wonderful that must be real genuine fans arent they. The proper bristol city fans were at orient last tuesday and crawley on saturday not the extra 20 odd thousand plastics that will be at wembley next week.

 

[JJH]

A few years ago I went Coventry vs Leeds with a mate just after Leeds got promoted from League One and Coventry got 28,000 that day, I know 6,500 were from Leeds but still 21-22K in the home ends was very good I thought.

To see only a third of that home support coming regularly now is very disappointing for a club that are capable of getting big gates as shown against us, what gates do you reckon Coventry would get in League Two?

I know Leeds fans who were in the home end that day - that may be why

 

[JJH]

I'd say:

Sheffield United
PNE
Bradford
Barnsley
Bristol City
Notts County
Port Vale
Swindon

The rest in some order

Colchester
Yeovil
Fleetwood
Crawley

I don't count Coventry anymore as they just aren't the same club anymore and have become something very alien to the original club, SISU have effectively killed the club and put it in terminal decline by moving it. Unless something very dramatic happens to rescue them from SISU, I would not be surprised one bit if they end up being liquidated at some point in the next decade. Relegation if it happens this season will finish them off which is why I think it matters more than anything that they survive this season as it's very easy to see it as a fight for the club's future existence.

I feel offended that you think we are a smaller club than Barnsley

 

[PUSBCCFC]

I'd say:

Sheffield United
PNE
Bradford
Barnsley
Bristol City
Notts County
Port Vale
Swindon

The rest in some order

Colchester
Yeovil
Fleetwood
Crawley

I don't count Coventry anymore as they just aren't the same club anymore and have become something very alien to the original club, SISU have effectively killed the club and put it in terminal decline by moving it. Unless something very dramatic happens to rescue them from SISU, I would not be surprised one bit if they end up being liquidated at some point in the next decade. Relegation if it happens this season will finish them off which is why I think it matters more than anything that they survive this season as it's very easy to see it as a fight for the club's future existence.

Sad to say, but you're correct. Gutted to see the club the way it is, and even more gutting that we probably won't have a club in a few years.

 

[SkyBlueElephant]

Sad to say, but you're correct. Gutted to see the club the way it is, and even more gutting that we probably won't have a club in a few years.

We will have a club, it will just probably be even shittier than it is now if that is possible.

Never felt so hopeless as a fan, I'd always held onto the hope that one day SISU would leave and we would have an owner who could unite stadium and club and we would be able to move forward and recover. Now Wasps are here we have 0.01% chance of ever getting stadium revenues and so I'm struggling to see a future and the way forward even after SISU leave.

 

[Gerry Gow]

I'm surprised to see Barnsley very high in people's order. They've only had 1 season in the top flight?

 

[Bacchus]

Sad to say, but you're correct. Gutted to see the club the way it is, and even more gutting that we probably won't have a club in a few years.

Yeah, it seems harsh but I've just never seen what I saw among Coventry supporters a few weeks ago before our match up there. It was like seeing a club on life support with supporters that already felt it was dying. I've never seen such an atmosphere of genuine despair around a club before on a matchday. no-one seemed to want to be there and no-one was really expecting anything positive. I remember having a drink with some local supporters doing Portsmouth away while they were down here in 2012-13 and struggling to rid themselves of Chanrai. There was still plenty of hope among them though, they knew they were in real shit but there was hope the PST could rescue the club and at least secure it's future. I've seen none of that spirit at Coventry because of how badly SISU are destroying the club.

During the move at Northampton a phoenix club wasn't really the right move or time, but perhaps at some point in the future if things get worse it will be the best hope, a phoenix club does seem curiously fitting though for Coventry of all places...

 

[Craig]

And 76 in the second tier, this is only our 5th season outside the top two divisions since 1981.

 

[Craig]

I don't know if there's a more up to date version of this and I can't be arsed looking but I like this list....

http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bigclubindex.html

 

[TomPNE94]

I don't know if there's a more up to date version of this and I can't be arsed looking but I like this list....

http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bigclubindex.html

That has it as

Sheff Utd
PNE
Barnsley
Coventry
Bristol City
Oldham
Bradford
Port Vale

 

[Craig]

Can't have changed too drastically in four years tbf....

 

[Craig]

Insert Notts County in between PNE and us.

 

[Fedora Dale]

Need to use a batching system for this. Clubs within each batch can fight amongst each other for bragging rights...

Big buggers who could potentially establish themselves in the Premiership for an extended stay:
Brizzle City, Cov, Blades

Those whose copy of "Seasons in the Sun" is the single (with optional b-side) rather than 15" EP:
Barnsley, Bratfud, Notts Co, Owdum, Swindon

Those who were good when "Seasons in the Sun" was by Gilbert & Sullivan, rather than the later Terry Jacks cover:
PNE

Dull commuter towns, which John Betjeman found too Johnny-come-lately to include in "Metroland":
MK, Peterborough

Former u-boat bases:
L'Orient

Good old salt of the earth outfits, always tenacious:
Chesterfield, Donny, Vale, Scunny, Warsaw

Obscure places dahn sarf:
Col Ewe, Gills

Obscure places downalong (with optional baler twine available in both flake and ready-rubbed varieties):
Yeovil

Teams that used to be as crap as us, but had the good sense to invest in youth 30 years ago:
Crewe

We don't waste good money on trophy-polish:
Dale

Risen from the depths, but with a long term plan for world domination:
Fleetwood

Probably realise its about to go tits up, but having a laugh anyway:
Crawley.

 

[SkyBlueElephant]

I don't know if there's a more up to date version of this and I can't be arsed looking but I like this list....

http://www.bigclubornot.co.uk/bigclubindex.html

Notts County bigger than Southampton and Grimsby Town bigger than ourselves and Norwich

 

[Craig]

I didn't compile the list, but whoever did put more time and effort into it than searching google for a sarcastic gif....

 

[Freakyteeth]

Fucking Oldham!?

 

[Hurrikeen]

Fucking Oldham!?

Founder Premier League team.

We're fucking massive.