Degsy's Midnight Runners (shoes) v Degsy's Dinner (of Cumberland sausage) - Northampton v Carlisle

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Blatant foul on Gillespie for their goal. Terrible refereeing.

A very costly refereeing error from our point of view.
 

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Ffs, right before half time and right after half time.
 

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Game over, 3-1.

Massive opportunity missed tonight, disappointing.
 

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3-1. We've handed Northampton an easy 3 points with a little help from the referee.

Haven't made them work for this at all. Such shit goals to concede.
If we're serious about challenging playoffs we have to be winning games like this.
 

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Full time 3-2.

Disappointed. Tough game at the weekend now, which we should be looking at winning.
 

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For fuck's sake... how many games are we going to lose this season where we have the best of the first half only to concede just before half-time... I make that three.
 

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3-1. We've handed Northampton an easy 3 points with a little help from the referee.

Haven't made them work for this at all. Such shit goals to concede.
If we're serious about challenging playoffs we have to be winning games like this.

We'd lost one in seven before tonight, was never gonna be a walkover....

Good win, Asamoah sounded dangerous but going forward we sounded dangerous too. Adams had another great game, listening to Wilder now he can't understand the angst of our first goal, and says after conceding it Carlisle suddenly didn't seem so interested in wasting time. Smith also made his obligatory fantastic save at a pivotal moment.

Good win, 1 loss in 8, up to 5th, everything seems rosy on the pitch thankfully
 

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Curle's just been on saying he can't believe a foul wasn't given for the first one.

It was always going to be a tough game, but at 1-0 it sounded like we were on top and I thought we could hold on for a massive 3 points.
 

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Curle's just been on saying he can't believe a foul wasn't given for the first one.

It was clear, and it completely turned the game. A disgraceful piece of reffing.
 

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It was clear, and it completely turned the game. A disgraceful piece of reffing.
I'm sure Curle said he spoke to the referee, and he said he seen the incident but didn't think it was a foul.
 

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I'm sure Curle said he spoke to the referee, and he said he seen the incident but didn't think it was a foul.
I can't wait to see it again then. From behind the goal I was certain Gillespie was shoved.
 

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To be honest I think the keeper just misjudged it. It was one of the few occasions o toole didn't stand right in front of him to keep him on his line. Obviously a lot of bodies so tough to be certain but I think he complained to try and save face to be honest.

Not our finest performance, incredibly lucky with our second but I'll take 3 points all day! Asamoah caused huge problems with his pace. Don't know if it's the norm but Carlisle were trying to play out from the back with rather varying success. Neither keeper had to many saves to make to be honest, conceding from 2 corners is pretty poor though, not like were a team of giants anymore!
Stevenage and Newport next, two very winnable games!
 

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It's the norm this season. We've given so many goals away from over playing
 

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Just before you equalised, I was sure Asamoah's shot was flying into the top corner. I was right behind it and it was arrowing straight in, then right at the last second it swerved agonisingly.
 

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Don't know if it's the norm but Carlisle were trying to play out from the back with rather varying success.

We play a very unique style you probably won't see again this season. We try and claim its an all passing game, but for me its not at all, the whole tactic is one big 'sucker in' job. We'll play ridiculous passes from the back, goal-kicks that go backwards etc, etc trying to sucker the opponents to commit people forward as we piddle about playing some Spanish style keep-ball all while keeping 3-4 men as far forward as we can.

suddenly when the opponents throw more men up we lump it forward where it can then be 3 vs 3 or 4 vs 4 or find our wide men or forward with lots of space where we again then play on the ground but can play with a lot of speed and some good quality. It is how we can score quite a lot of goals, but causes 2 problems.....A: we're prone to numerous cock-ups in the piddle about mode which cost goals and B: When we do attack we leave big gaps which can cause goals.

On the positive we should be a team you can look forward to play, we're not messing about with 10 at back boring people to death, we get chances and you get chances............much more interesting.

although I think last night will see end of the 3 at back for a while. No complaints it being tried after recent away wins, but its frustrating to think we've 4 maybe 5 players can easily get 10-15 goals this season (something most clubs would love) but we'll end up midtable, maybe bottom half due to horrendous defending.
 

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Seen the goals this morning. I think it's a foul on Gillespie, the player puts his hands on Gillespie's shoulders and as he tries to jump he impedes Gillespie. It wasn't as much of a shove as it first looked last night, but I still think the ref should have blown for a free kick.
 

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Definitely looks like a foul having seen the highlights, second goal is very cruel on us as well. Think this is one of those rare losses where we can put it down to poor refereeing (1st goal) and a huge slice of bad luck (2nd goal) instead of just plain bad defending, although that's not to say there wasn't some of that too from Gillesphey for the 3rd. If Asamoah puts that long shot in then it'd surely have been a very different scoreline.
 

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We play a very unique style you probably won't see again this season. We try and claim its an all passing game, but for me its not at all, the whole tactic is one big 'sucker in' job. We'll play ridiculous passes from the back, goal-kicks that go backwards etc, etc trying to sucker the opponents to commit people forward as we piddle about playing some Spanish style keep-ball all while keeping 3-4 men as far forward as we can.

suddenly when the opponents throw more men up we lump it forward where it can then be 3 vs 3 or 4 vs 4 or find our wide men or forward with lots of space where we again then play on the ground but can play with a lot of speed and some good quality. It is how we can score quite a lot of goals, but causes 2 problems.....A: we're prone to numerous cock-ups in the piddle about mode which cost goals and B: When we do attack we leave big gaps which can cause goals.

On the positive we should be a team you can look forward to play, we're not messing about with 10 at back boring people to death, we get chances and you get chances............much more interesting.

although I think last night will see end of the 3 at back for a while. No complaints it being tried after recent away wins, but its frustrating to think we've 4 maybe 5 players can easily get 10-15 goals this season (something most clubs would love) but we'll end up midtable, maybe bottom half due to horrendous defending.

Me and my mate were discussing this during the game actually. It was peculiar in that it was obvious you were trying to draw us in, but because you then had to go long it meant our big centrebacks would win the headers. You would have been better off trying to play through balls from higher up the pitch as asamoah was causing us all sorts of issues. Certainly made for an interesting watch though!

With regards to our first goal I would point more fingers at your keeper than any push. He clearly misjudged the flight of the ball. To be fair most keepers approach the ref after they concede from corners!
 

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I think this is going to be a very frustrating season for anyone who doesn't support Plymouth, Portsmouth or Oxford because nobody has shown any real consistency. The top three will probably have their automatic places all but sewn up by March while come May there's going to be four teams saying 'how the fuck did we manage to get into the playoffs?' while another six teams will be saying 'if only we were more consistent, we could have gotten into the playoffs'... The playoffs will then probably be won by the team on worst form going into them.

It's frustrating because everybody from Hartlepool upwards knows, when they see things like Newport beating us at home and then us beating Orient at Brisbane Road, that a playoff place is there for the taking if only they'd held onto this lead, or not been uncharacteristically shit in that game. Mansfield and Morecambe are on a good run but the fans of those clubs don't seem to feel that they'll cement their places in the top 7, the consensus seems to be that like Orient before them, their runs will also come to an end while there remains a gap of less than six points for someone to overhaul.

Maybe the right thing for the Football League to do would be cancel the playoffs and reduce the number of teams relegated from League One this season to three, as nobody outside the top three in League Two will really have earned a promotion.

We're away to Wycombe at the weekend, what happens there depends on a combination of whether we have a good game, and whether Wycombe have a good game with a bit of random luck thrown in (and also whether a referee finally cottons on to their alleged gamesmanship), nothing more than that really. I don't think you can really analyse fixtures in terms of 'if we do this bit well then we'll win' or 'Wycombe will win because...'.
 
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No doubting Gillespie misjudged the flight of the ball, but that doesn't change the fact that he's fouled.

We've kind of only got ourselves to blame. Asamoah had a couple of great chances to really put us in a commanding position and we restricted Northampton to a few long shots, then yeah the foul happened for the first and then unlucky for the second but if we'd taken them chances first half it wouldn't have mattered.
Good first half, poor second half. It's definitely an opportunity missed.
 

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So its his 3-6-1 formation. But with miller/Grainger pushing so high up it'll be 3-4-3. Surprised he didn't try 4 at back away, but can see why he sticks with this as its working well away

It was actually a 4-5-1/4-3-3. When I seen the lineup I thought 3-5-2 as well.

Gillespie
Miller Troy Atkinson Gillesphey
Kennedy Dicker Hery
Gilliead Asamoah Grainger​
 

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Grainger at left wing. Only Keith Curle.
 

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Grainger at left wing. Only Keith Curle.
He was good to be fair.
It really did work first half, we counter attacked and could have been 3-0 up before they equalised. Grainger showed some good quality.
 

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He was good to be fair.
It really did work first half, we counter attacked and could have been 3-0 up before they equalised. Grainger showed some good quality.
Not complaining like, just strikes me as ludicrous that a player can feasibly play at centre back and left wing.
 

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That's the thing, I don't think he can play at centre back. Left back, left wing back or left wing, or bench. IMO.
 

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then its very very worrying we are as horrendous in defence with 4 at back as 3 at back.

although I don't want anyone but forwards up front if we play 4-3-3, they need the positioning.

maybe next game if jabo back we can have Grainer left back and Asamoah, Jabo, Gilliead as front 3....height and power in middle with pace and skill either side.
 

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