EFL suggest 5 subs

Kenneth E End

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...and is flatly rejected.

Words fail me that this was even suggested and discussed at the last meeting with clubs.
 

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I believe there should be no limit to the amount of subs, and teams should be able to make rolling subs too. Have a squad of about 50 players all of whom get a few minutes on the pitch during the course of an average game. You'd have specialist penalty takers, corner takers, throw in takers, divers, brawlers etc who are brought on as and when they are needed. See a good attack building, take off a couple of defenders and throw a couple of strikers on while your midfield have it, you can always put the defenders back on afterwards. Throw a tall striker on just at the moment a cross is about to come in. Have the option of taking off one full height player and replacing him with two midgets. I'd watch that.
 

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I believe there should be no limit to the amount of subs, and teams should be able to make rolling subs too. Have a squad of about 50 players all of whom get a few minutes on the pitch during the course of an average game. You'd have specialist penalty takers, corner takers, throw in takers, divers, brawlers etc who are brought on as and when they are needed. See a good attack building, take off a couple of defenders and throw a couple of strikers on while your midfield have it, you can always put the defenders back on afterwards. Throw a tall striker on just at the moment a cross is about to come in. Have the option of taking off one full height player and replacing him with two midgets. I'd watch that.
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...and is flatly rejected.

Words fail me that this was even suggested and discussed at the last meeting with clubs.

Thought the EFL were massively in favour of promoting youngsters and giving them first team chances? Main reason for the EFL Trophy B team stuff wasn't it.

So why suggest something that reduces opportunities for young players to be involved in matchday squads? Makes no sense. If anything there should be more.
 

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With unlimited subs and the impending arrival of VAR I reckon we'd all get out of a game just in time for last orders.
 

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Why was this even discussed, who wanted to change it?
 

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Thought the EFL were massively in favour of promoting youngsters and giving them first team chances? Main reason for the EFL Trophy B team stuff wasn't it.

So why suggest something that reduces opportunities for young players to be involved in matchday squads? Makes no sense. If anything there should be more.
I think the suggestion was to be allowed to make 5 subs in a game, not reduce the number of subs in a squad to 5.
 

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I think the suggestion was to be allowed to make 5 subs in a game, not reduce the number of subs in a squad to 5.

Ah ok, fair enough. Problem with that is that they probably wouldn't be used properly a lot of the time, other then to time waste.

There are enough annoying time wasting substitutions late on in games as it is without giving managers the chance to break the game up even more.
 

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The other problem with increasing the number of subs even more is that it will disproportionately benefit clubs with bigger budgets. Right now a club who can name a strong starting line-up with good tactics has a good chance of winning the game, the more subs the more you allow clubs to win games through having a stronger bench than their opponents and more good players with fresh legs to throw on in the second half rather than a strong starting line-up and good tactics. The new loan rules already disproportionately penalise clubs who can't afford to spend lots of money on squad depth this will only do so even further.
 

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I wouldn't necessarily be averse to it if they included a rule that at least two of the subs (if you made the max of 5) had to be players developed through the club's academy or under-19s or something along those lines.

That wouldn't disproportionately benefit bigger clubs and it would make more minutes for young players likely.
 

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I agree that a 4th should be allowed in the event of extra time in a cup game, but that's it.

I find it a shame when a team goes down to 10 men for an injury, but that's just bad planning/luck.
 

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I'd ban subs after 80 minutes even for injuries. Sorry but they're used to break up a game more than they are to change a game or cover injuries which defeats their purpose in my opinion.
 

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