Everton Appoint Ronald Koeman - 3 year deal

[johnnytodd]

11th for Everton isn't underachieving. When will you stop being delusional and accept what kind of club you are?

You booed Moyes' incessantly even though he had you massively overachieving. You harangued poor Walter even though he saved you. etc etc.

Now Newcastle have gone you're undoubtedly the worst fans in the league.

Possibly the worst WU attempt since Pagnell's supposed sighting in Liverpool.

 

[HarvSFC]

Saints fans:

2013/14 season
Pochettino is amazing, absolute quality manager. So much better than Adkins. Lallana is a fucking brilliant player. Lovren is one the best CBs in the League.

2014/15 season
Pochettino wasn't actually that good, Koeman is definitely an upgrade. Best manager we've ever had. Lallana and Lovren are fucking shit - so glad we sold them.

2015/16 season
Koeman isnt anything special to be fair. I'm sure we can do better. Any player he brings with him to Everton is also shit.

Pochettino didn't show any signs of having a plan B in management when he left us. He seemed to have learned since, but his end of season form and his tactics burning out players are still showing, as it did at Spurs last year. Still a good manager.

Did you see Lovren and Lallana in their first season for Liverpool? Everyone called them shit. Not just Southampton fans.

Koeman's a class manager and a big loss. Ward-Prowse, who's been linked to Everton is actually shit. While you won't be able to find any Southampton fans calling Van Dijk shit

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Saints fans:

2013/14 season
Pochettino is amazing, absolute quality manager. So much better than Adkins. Lallana is a fucking brilliant player. Lovren is one the best CBs in the League.

2014/15 season
Pochettino wasn't actually that good, Koeman is definitely an upgrade. Best manager we've ever had. Lallana and Lovren are fucking shit - so glad we sold them.

2015/16 season
Koeman isnt anything special to be fair. I'm sure we can do better. Any player he brings with him to Everton is also shit.

I wish there was a 'double like' button.
Not specific to the Saints two on here necessarily, but brilliant as a generalisation of them.

 

[Stocky]

I wish there was a 'double like' button.
Not specific to the Saints two on here necessarily, but brilliant as a generalisation of them.

You can't blame them for that though? They've done well for themselves since Pochettino and those players left. It'd sound stupid if Koeman hadn't just led them to their best league finish in a good while. He did improve them, Lallana and Lovren's losses (your examples) didn't effect them so much and they haven't done great for themselves so their views aren't particularly deluded are they? As for them saying Koeman is overrated, most I have seen have rightly praised him but as with any manager at Southampton with the structure they have, he isn't the be all and end all.

 

[johnnytodd]

Pelle begging for Everton to sign him.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

Is there animosity between Bournemouth and Southampton?

 

[HarvSFC]

Is there animosity between Bournemouth and Southampton?

Nothing from our side............

We once saved them, don't you know.

It's always going to be Portsmouth for us.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Is there animosity between Bournemouth and Southampton?

......

Yes on our side, but varying a lot depending who you ask. I live there and have many (sensible) Saints friends, and also know better than most how cloud cuckoo crazy some/many of them are. I think that is caused by the place being a bit of a self contained bubble.

Hopefully they have no choice but to get used to us for the foreseeable. We'll always raise our effort by a few % against them, like we did turning them over this season.

Regarding Pompey, we've always been very friendly with them for many years. Until that is, we went to Fratton this season in the Cup with the traditional roles reversed. The reception was unexpectedly pretty hostile, which was weird. Maybe a one off, we'll have to see.

 

[Art Morte]

A shame, I liked Koeman.

 

[gjb]

Still no announcement on Koeman appointment. Bit embarrassing now.

 

[Pagnell]

It would be funny as fuck if he ended up staying at Southampton, especially after all the press claiming it was a done deal. Won't happen though, they'll just be ironing out the final details of the agreement.

 

[johnnytodd]

It would be funny as fuck if he ended up staying at Southampton, especially after all the press claiming it was a done deal. Won't happen though, they'll just be ironing out the final details of the agreement.

small things amuse small minds they say.............LOL he's just back from holiday it will be announced latest tomoz tea time.

 

[Don Tonberry]

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Regarding Pompey, we've always been very friendly with them for many years. Until that is, we went to Fratton this season in the Cup with the traditional roles reversed. The reception was unexpectedly pretty hostile, which was weird. Maybe a one off, we'll have to see.

Really? Everything was very friendly as per usual from where I was. You had a few numpties tweet some ridiculously stupid things who needed to be put in their place but that happens with every club. We still want to see you do well and stick it to the Scummers in our absence.

As for Koeman, didn't he say he'd stay if Scummers said they would show some ambition? The fact he's leaving simply underlines the fact that under current ownership all Southampton are are a vessel for their owners to make as much money as possible with no ambition of building on their success to a degree that they'll actually win something tangible.

 

[Jamie_SFC]

Nice try Don, the ever reliable ITK's as well as the head at BBC Solent say he was perfectly happy with the talks at the end of the season regarding next season's budget but then got news of the Everton interest and the amount of money they were going to offer him. He took that to the Southampton board, we weren't prepared to match it so now he's off to Everton.

As for the owners making as much money as possible, that is simply bullshit but it's one of the Pompey myths that have been strong since her father passed in 2010. We've been on the verge of administration and a meltdown every season since then.

We are trying to compete while staying within our own budget, the majority of transfer funds we've got over the last two years have gone back into the playing squad, more often than not we've replaced the outgoing player with a better player for a cheaper price. It's obviously not going to happen all the time, there will be (and have been) times we will get it wrong.

I'm glad we're not taking the Pompey approach and using Russian blood money to buy our way to a cup, was that cup win really worth the administrations, the relegation's, the massive winless run you went on in League One and now playing in the basement division for the 4th year in a row? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll walk it this year, just like you were supposed to last year.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

'Going on with this then? Everton thought twice about the 7 million?

 

[johnnytodd]

'Going on with this then? Everton thought twice about the 7 million?

Koeman on his hols , expect the announcement today maybe........maybe not

 

[Jamie_SFC]

It's finally done.

 

[Anon]

I'd be royally pissed if I was a Southampton fan, and direct it at the board. Koeman's been turned by a sideways move, and whether it's because of the way the club is run with not enough funds for him to spend given the success and sales, or if it's because Everton offered him personally more money when clearly he's deserved an extra few quid given the market, it still lands at their board.

 

[Pagnell]

I've nothing against him but I obviously hope he fails miserably, despite the money he's been promised.

 

[gjb]

I've nothing against him but I obviously hope he fails miserably, despite the money he's been promised.

Ahhh!! Come on u Blues.

 

[Stevencc]

 

[Pagnell]

You have to laugh at that but it's nothing we don't already know about modern football. It's about money, loyalty rarely, if ever, comes into it.

 

[Master D]

Backwards move.

 

[Don Tonberry]

Nice try Don, the ever reliable ITK's as well as the head at BBC Solent say he was perfectly happy with the talks at the end of the season regarding next season's budget but then got news of the Everton interest and the amount of money they were going to offer him. He took that to the Southampton board, we weren't prepared to match it so now he's off to Everton.

As for the owners making as much money as possible, that is simply bullshit but it's one of the Pompey myths that have been strong since her father passed in 2010. We've been on the verge of administration and a meltdown every season since then.

We are trying to compete while staying within our own budget, the majority of transfer funds we've got over the last two years have gone back into the playing squad, more often than not we've replaced the outgoing player with a better player for a cheaper price. It's obviously not going to happen all the time, there will be (and have been) times we will get it wrong.

I'm glad we're not taking the Pompey approach and using Russian blood money to buy our way to a cup, was that cup win really worth the administrations, the relegation's, the massive winless run you went on in League One and now playing in the basement division for the 4th year in a row? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll walk it this year, just like you were supposed to last year.

Your first paragraph highlights my entire point. A much bigger club comes in for your manager with a better offer, you weren't prepared to match it and thus he has gone. Yes, he's a shit for being "disloyal" but you've had Harry Redknapp as your manager so this isn't alien to you.

With regards to your second paragraph, has your team really got better? I would say the standard of the Premier League has dropped if anything. Given the movement of certain individuals and the amount of money being thrown around, I think Scummers have reached their peak and won't progress any further.

Your cup competition record has been dire since your new ownership and whilst Pompey have well and truly paid the price for building a side beyond their means, the FA Cup win is something I'll never forget and is something that Scummers are never likely to experience, especially under the current regime which seems to favour Premier League money over silverware. (A few Southampton fans I know say this, I just agree)

As for your last point, none of us share the arrogance that Southampton fans seem to have. We've never expected to walk League Two although this season there really are no excuses for not getting promoted.

 

[HarvSFC]

No love lost between Boruc and Koeman.

 

[Anon]

I love to do a poll on here to see how many of us when offered more money to do the same standard job (but with in theory better prospects) somewhere else, would turn it down out of "loyalty".

The money/loyalty brigade always give me a chuckle.

 

[HarvSFC]

I'd be royally pissed if I was a Southampton fan, and direct it at the board. Koeman's been turned by a sideways move, and whether it's because of the way the club is run with not enough funds for him to spend given the success and sales, or if it's because Everton offered him personally more money when clearly he's deserved an extra few quid given the market, it still lands at their board.

Koeman's now the 7th highest paid manager in the world with a promise of a £150m transfer budget. Not sure if the sales of Stones and Lukaku will be included in that, but it's more than a few quid.

He's paid more at Everton than Klopp is at Liverpool for example.

 

[Pagnell]

Koeman's now the 7th highest paid manager in the world with a promise of a £150m transfer budget. Not sure if the sales of Stones and Lukaku will be included in that, but it's more than a few quid.

He's paid more at Everton than Klopp is at Liverpool for example.

If you believe what's been said. Looking at the wealth of the new part owner, I'm a little sceptical that will be spent myself. We're not talking about an Abramovich here, if he comes in and spends £100m in the first transfer window, that's almost a tenth of his net worth. And that doesn't include what he spent to buy half the club in the first place.

But regardless of what is spent, Everton are in a far stronger position now than they have been in decades.

 

[Anon]

Koeman's now the 7th highest paid manager in the world with a promise of a £150m transfer budget. Not sure if the sales of Stones and Lukaku will be included in that, but it's more than a few quid.

He's paid more at Everton than Klopp is at Liverpool for example.

Then I'd take the deal as well, makes sense, even putting aside other probably valid reasons for wanting to leave.

No directed at anyone, but I find it weird when salaries are mentioned as being overblown - the free market dictates salaries, they'll keep rising as long as the money keeps flowing and Koeman's on a rising curve of earnings right now. In six months time there could easily be a couple of others that knock him down a couple of pegs on that scale, and so it will continue. Contracts and earnings are "as and when", and very time specific.

 

[Pagnell]

I don't think £7m a year for a manager is overblown, there are players who earn far more than that and are individual players more important than a good manager? If Koeman has Everton challenging for honours in the next 2-3 seasons it's money well spent given that his wage throughout that time will still have been less than what a good player is bought for these days, never mind the subsequent wages for the player on top of that.