Is it time for a 'Managerial Merry go round' thread?

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Keep your hands off Paul Hurst Rotherham. :box:
 

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I would too as I understand he is a local lad and maybe would want a better opportunity to move up north.

On the other hand, if a bloke with little experience can double his wages you just never know, I am amazed Warne left a "job for as long as he wants it" (Tony Stewart's own words to me 3months ago) to go to Derby.

He won't last 5 minutes there if he gets off to a bad start and 20,000 start mumping at him instead of a few hundred here.
You've hit the nail on the head. Local lad here and a job for life and I just feel it's too early for him and for Rotherham to take a punt on him.

He knows if he got off to a poor start he'd be hung out to dry. He'd be better off taking a club who are on the up but with a project similar to Rotherham's but in league one. MK Dons would be a club I could see him going to.
 

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How so?
Money talks doesn’t it.
And there is little loyalty in football.
Plus it’s bigger club, good facilities and a solid platform to build on.
Stranger things have happened.
Never say never but see my post in reply to the Rotherham fan.

All sounds great unless he got off to a poor start and flirted with relegation. He'd be out of a job as there would be no loyalty to him from Rotherham's perspective. He'd still be our manager even if he got us relegated.
 

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Wednesday fan Paul Hurst!
It's not his fault, he will have been forced into it by his family like the rest of us.
Anyway I think playing for us for 15 years negates it, just like Woody has been forgiven.

I don't know if he would be bothered but we should try and interview him.
He has a similar footballing philosophy to Warne so he might fit in, plus he still lives locally I believe.

Equally he might feel he doesn't want to risk tarnishing his legendary status in the club's history as second most appearances for Rotherham.
 

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Sensible appointment by Derby and a good move for Warne. A step back in terms of league but obviously the potential there to get further in the Championship than Rotherham are likely to be able to get.

Warne is one of the few managers who seems to call things exactly as he and the fans have seen it, no bullshitting or trying to exaggerate stuff.
 

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His interviews are always very candid and honest. I like him. He is not someone to use platitudes and the usual lines trotted out after a game. Strikes me as principled.
 

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Yes I like Warne, I also respect Rotherham for sticking with him despite relegations. They were a good match for each other.
 

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There's never a perfect time to leave a club but at least Warne has left Rotherham in a very healthy position, rather than scuppering a potential League One promotion bid. Seems like a great bloke and I reckon he'll do well at Derby. Feel a bit sorry for the Rotherham board who have always supported him but there you go.
 

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Rotherham local rag sez Dean Holden, Paul Hurst and Mark Bonner are likely options.

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co....rrow-down-the-names-in-manager-hunt_42997.htm

Ainsworth has ruled himself out.


I'd think with Gareth it would take something really special for him to even consider going elsewhere so don't think it was ever likely he'd be in the running for this.
 

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Apparently Karl Robinson is being/has been considered.

If he is, he'd be completely out of his depth. League One mid-table/upper mid-table is about his level. Presently he's even falling short of that.
 

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I'd think with Gareth it would take something really special for him to even consider going elsewhere so don't think it was ever likely he'd be in the running for this.
To be fair were it not for the fact that he’s got a young family settled darn Sarf, I would say the Rotherham job would be a decent one for him - a patient, non-trigger happy board and a reasonably tolerant fanbase (ie not one with a Billy Big Bollocks mentality like, say, Sunderland) which is bigger than ours, and therefore I guess a bigger budget comes with that.
 

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Apparently Karl Robinson is being/has been considered.

If he is, he'd be completely out of his depth. League One mid-table/upper mid-table is about his level. Presently he's even falling short of that.

If you listened to the BBC podcasts with Warne, he is very critical of some of the Rotherham supporters stood behind the dug out.
They apparently made some very personal hateful comments about his father, the cretins.

TBH before listening to him on the podcasts I wouldn't have wanted him anywhere near our club, but he went way up in my estimation after listening to him.
Nobody thinks he will get the job however.
 

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To be fair were it not for the fact that he’s got a young family settled darn Sarf, I would say the Rotherham job would be a decent one for him - a patient, non-trigger happy board and a reasonably tolerant fanbase (ie not one with a Billy Big Bollocks mentality like, say, Sunderland) which is bigger than ours, and therefore I guess a bigger budget comes with that.
You never met SERAWA?
 

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To be fair were it not for the fact that he’s got a young family settled darn Sarf, I would say the Rotherham job would be a decent one for him - a patient, non-trigger happy board and a reasonably tolerant fanbase (ie not one with a Billy Big Bollocks mentality like, say, Sunderland) which is bigger than ours, and therefore I guess a bigger budget comes with that.
Billy big bollocks mentality my arse. We have put up with some shit over the years.

I never realised Warne left Rotherham till seeing this thread. He was doing a marvellous job. I personally think he will get Derby up in time but not this season. I could be wrong though.
 

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Billy big bollocks mentality my arse. We have put up with some shit over the years.

I never realised Warne left Rotherham till seeing this thread. He was doing a marvellous job. I personally think he will get Derby up in time but not this season. I could be wrong though.

The question being, if he doesn't get them promoted this season, will he still be there to try next year?
He has always taken us back up the year after relegation but he had a team that he chose, on their way up, young-ish, in top condition willing to run their nuts off for him.
Will Derby's older players, even be capable of his demands, even if they are willing to try?
 

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The question being, if he doesn't get them promoted this season, will he still be there to try next year?
He has always taken us back up the year after relegation but he had a team that he chose, on their way up, young-ish, in top condition willing to run their nuts off for him.
Will Derby's older players, even be capable of his demands, even if they are willing to try?
That’s a good question. They will need to buy into his methods. I remember our preview for the game between us and the rotherham bloke giving his insight basically said he has the squad ultra fit and anyone who isn’t fit gets shipped out. Let’s see how he adapts to Derby.
 

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That’s a good question. They will need to buy into his methods. I remember our preview for the game between us and the rotherham bloke giving his insight basically said he has the squad ultra fit and anyone who isn’t fit gets shipped out. Let’s see how he adapts to Derby.

Our successes during Warne's almost 6 years in charge were based mainly on team spirit and work ethic.

As time has gone by the recruitment team have brought in better players season on season and we now have some really good players,
However we still remain behind other championship teams in terms of ability and that has to be supplimented by sheer graft.

It's no coincidence that our bad results tend to be midweek when the players are still knackered from their efforts the previous weekend.
We can get away with it to an extent in league 1 but not in the Championship.

He will have players of considerable ability at Derby but it remains to be seen if they will buy into his ideas.
Some of them will get a shock especially next pre-season, if he lasts that long.
 

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Our successes during Warne's almost 6 years in charge were based mainly on team spirit and work ethic.

As time has gone by the recruitment team have brought in better players season on season and we now have some really good players,
However we still remain behind other championship teams in terms of ability and that has to be supplimented by sheer graft.

It's no coincidence that our bad results tend to be midweek when the players are still knackered from their efforts the previous weekend.
We can get away with it to an extent in league 1 but not in the Championship.

He will have players of considerable ability at Derby but it remains to be seen if they will buy into his ideas.
Some of them will get a shock especially next pre-season, if he lasts that long.
I personally can’t believe he left when he is doing a good job with you. However life goes on. Alex Neil fucked off and we couldn’t believe it but Mowbrays been good so far so let’s see how it pans out.
 

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Watford have binned Edwards off already. You have to laugh really.
Nice pay off for him, and his rep wont be affected as Watford are only 1 point from the play offs with only 2 defeats. Watford are the new Leeds, total joke.
 

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Nice pay off for him, and his rep wont be affected as Watford are only 1 point from the play offs with only 2 defeats. Watford are the new Leeds, total joke.
Most of our fans don’t seem that fused he has gone tbh..

But the way we keep chopping and changing doesn’t go down well .

And we all know the next manager won’t last.

Basically think everyone just wants a total change of management in terms of owners /CEO and players as they need to take some responsibility too.
 

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Watford management eras are like dog years. 11 games is the equivalent of a season and a half at most other clubs. With that logic, he had to go really.
 

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Watford management eras are like dog years. 11 games is the equivalent of a season and a half at most other clubs. With that logic, he had to go really.
Apparently the Watford fans were singing "He came from Forest Green, he'll be gone by Halloween"

I wonder if the people who have been going short on the pound had a double on Edwards...if they did they would be quids in today.
 

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Watford management eras are like dog years. 11 games is the equivalent of a season and a half at most other clubs. With that logic, he had to go really.
Particularly as we had won just 3 games and one in 8/9.

As I say a few fans almost glad he has gone really - or that he was the wrong appointment in the first place.

They will want Bilic out in a few weeks if we don’t win every game ..

Probably the same ones complaining we have sacked another manager and have no stability.
 

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I personally can’t believe he left when he is doing a good job with you. However life goes on. Alex Neil fucked off and we couldn’t believe it but Mowbrays been good so far so let’s see how it pans out.
Still can’t get my head round the fact neill left yous for them. Baffling. He will be gone in a year, they get rid of managers all the time. What a prick.
 

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Apparently the Watford fans were singing "He came from Forest Green, he'll be gone by Halloween"

I wonder if the people who have been going short on the pound had a double on Edwards...if they did they would be quids in today.
Have to say whilst people are fed up of the constant changing of managers - mainly due to the fact it brings bad PR and shows we don’t really know what sort of manager we want there isn’t exactly annoyance or anger that Edward has gone.

Many saying he looked out of his depth and limited tactically.

Certainly after recent results there has been a lot of negativity.
 

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