Is it time for a 'Managerial Merry go round' thread?

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Artell was at Cheltenham yesterday so I believe.

Team that's lost 8 of their last 9 in League One potentially appointing a manager who lost 15 of his last 16 in League One is a big risk...
 

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Artell was at Cheltenham yesterday so I believe.

Team that's lost 8 of their last 9 in League One potentially appointing a manager who lost 15 of his last 16 in League One is a big risk...
Seemless transition! In all seriousness though the Crewe board pulled the rug from underneath Artell, he had no chance with that squad.
 

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Given the options available, I'd prefer an Artell to a Martin Devaney or Stephen Clemence. We need someone with a bit of experience, and he has that. He also had some success at Crewe, so no reason he can't turn things around.
 

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Seemless transition! In all seriousness though the Crewe board pulled the rug from underneath Artell, he had no chance with that squad.

Honestly, despite the board's naivete and deficiencies that season (most notably selling our players below their true value) the biggest factor in our woeful season was down to Artell alienating the squad and staff by doing completely avoidable things that significantly reduced morale. I personally believe he's damaged goods and desperate for a job but I hope he can turn it around somewhere. Nice bloke just your stereotypical stubborn Yorkshireman just too set in his own ways and unwilling to adapt or change.
 

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Honestly, despite the board's naivete and deficiencies that season (most notably selling our players below their true value) the biggest factor in our woeful season was down to Artell alienating the squad and staff by doing completely avoidable things that significantly reduced morale. I personally believe he's damaged goods and desperate for a job but I hope he can turn it around somewhere. Nice bloke just your stereotypical stubborn Yorkshireman just too set in his own ways and unwilling to adapt or change.
I wouldn't say he was a nice bloke. He always came across as an arrogant twat to me.
 

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Artell was sat nicely at 1/3 in the odds, and I was really coming round to him being appointed - especially after seeing some tweets from The Coach's Voice with him talking about different aspects of play, etc...

Only for Scott Brown to now be 1/4!! And yes, that is the Scott Brown who managed Fleetwood to no wins so far this season.

If he's the favourite then we may as well have stuck with Wade.
 

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Artell was sat nicely at 1/3 in the odds, and I was really coming round to him being appointed - especially after seeing some tweets from The Coach's Voice with him talking about different aspects of play, etc...

Only for Scott Brown to now be 1/4!! And yes, that is the Scott Brown who managed Fleetwood to no wins so far this season.

If he's the favourite then we may as well have stuck with Wade.
You wouldn't want Artell, he's a fucking knob. In fairness to Brown, he's had to deal with turmoil behind the scenes at Fleetwood although I admit I'd be pretty depressed if he was coming to be our manager.
 

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If Scott Brown ever became our manager, I'd go watch different teams and tick new grounds off with my lad every weekend. Celtic c***.
 

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Artell was sat nicely at 1/3 in the odds, and I was really coming round to him being appointed - especially after seeing some tweets from The Coach's Voice with him talking about different aspects of play, etc...

Only for Scott Brown to now be 1/4!! And yes, that is the Scott Brown who managed Fleetwood to no wins so far this season.

If he's the favourite then we may as well have stuck with Wade.
What odds for Tisdale??
 

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Darrell Clarke is now evens favourite after our local journalist basically ruled Scott Brown out.

Artell now at 4/1

This market has been more fun to follow than Cheltenham this season
 

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I really hope DC takes over. I'll definitely be keeping a keen eye on CTFC if that comes to fruition. Absolutely love the guy to bits for transforming us from League Two relegation battlers to a solid League One side.

He'll get one hell of on ovation when you visit VP on the 28th October if so.
 

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I still think Artell is most likely myself - he ticks a lot of boxes for what we're looking for.

With that being said, it's not unlike our board to plump with someone that hasn't even been in the running.
 

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Suppose it's just as well we're appointing Darrell Clarke then really...

Fair play to you, that's a terrific appointment for you. Having thought about it, he took over at Vale when we were basically going to drop out of the league. He got players running through brick walls for him. However, he was backed well in his 1st close season and worked under a Director of Football who signed well and also had the foundation of a good squad in place with players like Smith, Worrall and Conlon.

My concern with you is that your squad appears very poor right from the off and I don't expect you'll have loads to spend in January. Most people from the outside thought you would struggle.

On the flip side, you might get relegated and then Clarke I am sure is capable of building a squad for promotion. I think you're a great club but this league is your ceiling really and that's why I thought it a strange choice for DC.
 

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Chuffed for DC to be back in the game and will be welcomed back on the 28th of next month, will give us the closure of being able to show our appreciation which is pleasing.

It’s a huge job, he will need backing and the location may have been a decent pull for him, if he’s back to his old self he will have Cheltenham fighting and if as seems more likely than not they do go down he would be the right man to give them a chance of bouncing back up as long as backed in the summer and allowed a huge clear out.
 

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As much as I like DC, he does seem to hit a ceiling limit at L1 and both ourselves and Vale were staring at relegation when he was sacked
The main problem we had with Darrel is the fact he does'nt have the contacts the higher up you go. He was brilliant in Non league and very good in the 4th. But thats his limit with regards to signing players. But still a brilliant bloke.
 

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The main problem we had with Darrel is the fact he does'nt have the contacts the higher up you go. He was brilliant in Non league and very good in the 4th. But thats his limit with regards to signing players. But still a brilliant bloke.
He didn't have that problem as much with us as we have a recruitment team and Flickers, all be it we seemed to get a lot of players who had links to Crosby.

That said obviously we don't know what happened in the last few months at Vale and neither do we need to know that led to his departure, I just hope the break from it all has allowed him to process whats happened and get him back to his old self as he is a great bloke and will rightfully receive an incredible reception in a few weeks time.

The one painful part of his departure was the inability to say farewell and thank him for giving us our club back, he picked us up nose diving towards non league and within 18 months had us 9th in League One, granted a lot of people contributed, Crosby etc but he played a massive part in it all so I expect it to be an emotional return.

The Play Off final whilst buzzing for ourselves it felt even more special that we did it for DC, him looking to the sky with a tear as the final minute played out etc. He deserves all the happiness in the world and I hope he does a job down in Gloucestershire.
 

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Sounds like Matt Taylor might be available soon.
No, the other one.

Or maybe both?
 

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He didn't have that problem as much with us as we have a recruitment team and Flickers, all be it we seemed to get a lot of players who had links to Crosby.

That said obviously we don't know what happened in the last few months at Vale and neither do we need to know that led to his departure, I just hope the break from it all has allowed him to process whats happened and get him back to his old self as he is a great bloke and will rightfully receive an incredible reception in a few weeks time.

The one painful part of his departure was the inability to say farewell and thank him for giving us our club back, he picked us up nose diving towards non league and within 18 months had us 9th in League One, granted a lot of people contributed, Crosby etc but he played a massive part in it all so I expect it to be an emotional return.

The Play Off final whilst buzzing for ourselves it felt even more special that we did it for DC, him looking to the sky with a tear as the final minute played out etc. He deserves all the happiness in the world and I hope he does a job down in Gloucestershire.
So did we but it still can’t be ignored that at L1 level he did seem to drop off. Really hope he does well at Cheltenham and I’ll follow his progress eagerly.
 

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Good appointment for Cheltenham given their position and predicament.

Time will tell if he can keep them up.
 

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Good to see DC back in the game and wish him nothing but the best other than twice this season. There is certainly a question mark about him in terms of managing at L1 level past a certain point though personally I just think it’s more managers of his style have a shelf life at a club before things don’t quite work how they did previously. All that said given where Cheltenham stand today this would be as good an achievement as any if he can turn them around.
 

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Strange decision from Clarke for me. They're a club that are at their absolute ceiling in terms of level. He's inherited a very poor squad, which many people expected to get relegated before the season has started. He'll likely have very little money to play with in January, which is still a long way off.

If it were me, I'd have waited until a team like Bradford got rid of Hughes. A big club, down on their luck, that need revitalising and have the potential to be a Championship club.

Perhaps he expects Cheltenham will go down and then he can rebuild to get another promotion on his CV. Does feel like he's jumped into this one a bit.

I did feel, however, that as much as people loved him, he'd ran out of ideas. He also, according to rumour, wasn't exactly the paragon of virtue towards the end of his reign. Feels like we now have a more intelligent manager now and a better coach but will always love what DC did for us at our lowest ebb.
 

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Strange decision from Clarke for me. They're a club that are at their absolute ceiling in terms of level. He's inherited a very poor squad, which many people expected to get relegated before the season has started. He'll likely have very little money to play with in January, which is still a long way off.

If it were me, I'd have waited until a team like Bradford got rid of Hughes. A big club, down on their luck, that need revitalising and have the potential to be a Championship club.

Perhaps he expects Cheltenham will go down and then he can rebuild to get another promotion on his CV. Does feel like he's jumped into this one a bit.

I did feel, however, that as much as people loved him, he'd ran out of ideas. He also, according to rumour, wasn't exactly the paragon of virtue towards the end of his reign. Feels like we now have a more intelligent manager now and a better coach but will always love what DC did for us at our lowest ebb.
I think Clarke is a better appointment than Hughes would be, who is a busted flush.
 

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I think Cheltenham have gone for the best possible appointment. I like Artell as a bloke but as a manager I still think he's damaged goods and League One is above his station. I think Artell would be better suited to a job like the Tranmere job where the commute is short and it's in a league where he's had success before. Clarke is their best possible option for survival and it's win win for him should he improve their fortunes. If he keeps them up he's a hero whereas if they bravely go down, he'll be backed in League Two to get them back up at the first attempt. I'm surprised he's gone to Cheltenham as I thought a mid-table L1 club or a bigger L2 club would've been all over him if a vacancy had arisen, but he's clearly a bloke that loves a challenge.

I like Clarke. Proper football man and he did a tremendous job at Salisbury, Bristol Rovers and the Vale. You can excuse his mediocre spell at Walsall as that's a club that has been in some form of purgatory for most of the last 15 years. He turned down Leeds to stick with Rovers (a decision he may well have regretted in hindsight) which speaks volumes about the bloke and what he went through 2 seasons ago off the pitch was tragic and heartbreaking to see. No one should ever have gone through what he did.

I was slightly surprised Vale got rid of him and thought they'd give him another go this season but they've managed to do well without him so far.
 

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Strange decision from Clarke for me. They're a club that are at their absolute ceiling in terms of level. He's inherited a very poor squad, which many people expected to get relegated before the season has started. He'll likely have very little money to play with in January, which is still a long way off.

If it were me, I'd have waited until a team like Bradford got rid of Hughes. A big club, down on their luck, that need revitalising and have the potential to be a Championship club.

Perhaps he expects Cheltenham will go down and then he can rebuild to get another promotion on his CV. Does feel like he's jumped into this one a bit.

I did feel, however, that as much as people loved him, he'd ran out of ideas. He also, according to rumour, wasn't exactly the paragon of virtue towards the end of his reign. Feels like we now have a more intelligent manager now and a better coach but will always love what DC did for us at our lowest ebb.

Don’t think it’s strange at all. Everyone has bills to pay and depending on what location he lives at now might be ideal travel wise. DC has never needed massive money to spend just a group of players that will respond to him and buy into what he wants. Let’s face it if he can get that group of bums that he inherited from Askey to show some life it shouldn’t be beyond him here.

Some of it will depend on what assistant and other coaching staff he works with though, we really picked up after Crosby was brought in as assistant as don’t think DC won his first 7 after taking over.
 

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