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[Bilo]

Reading a thread on RAWK, the true home of reasoned and balanced debate, I've realized our squad is paper thin.

Like, Mané goes missing, we win once in a month. Lovren's injured, we play Lucas (the messi of MIDFIELD) at the back. But under Klopp we haven't lost a game after having more than a week off (winning 7 and drawing 3 in fact).

So basically, if our key players (about 9 of them) stay injury free, I think we'll go on a good run this spring. Won't get close to Chelsea I don't think, but I'd wager we'll pick up more points than them from here on in. We should be ok for top four.

 

[Stevencc]

Well we're bloody making it so someone has got to miss out.

Arsenal and Spurs?

 

[SALTIRE]

Reading a thread on RAWK, the true home of reasoned and balanced debate, I've realized our squad is paper thin.

Like, Mané goes missing, we win once in a month. Lovren's injured, we play Lucas (the messi of MIDFIELD) at the back. But under Klopp we haven't lost a game after having more than a week off (winning 7 and drawing 3 in fact).

So basically, if our key players (about 9 of them) stay injury free, I think we'll go on a good run this spring. Won't get close to Chelsea I don't think, but I'd wager we'll pick up more points than them from here on in. We should be ok for top four.

Indeed we do have a squad that is capable of getting into the top four, but it only takes a few injuries for us to look decidedly mid-table. I think Klopp was hoping Ings, Gomez, Ojo and Grujic would be more available, and if they were it might have alleviated things slightly, and was thinking that Origi and Sturridge would be capable backups up front, but it wasn't to be. Hence we don't have the strength in depth that Chelsea, Utd, City and Arsenal do; so its something that does need addressing in the summer when we get back into Europe.

 

[Stevencc]

Origi's not been too bad, has he?

 

[Dirk]

when we get back into Europe.

if

 

[SALTIRE]

Origi's not been too bad, has he?

He's scored about 6 or 7 so no, and hasn't been given a hell of a lot of playing time; but he hasn't really kicked on this season in performances like he was beginning to look towards the end of the last campaign. I'm not writing him off for sure, he's young enough and has the talent and seems to be level-headed, so hopefully he can step up next year; but he has been a slight disappointment it has to be said, though not nearly as much as his esteemed partner Sturridge.

 

[SALTIRE]

if

Top four isn't nailed on, but Europe is I'd say. Got to be positive about things otherwise why bother.

 

[Bilo]

Well we're bloody making it so someone has got to miss out.

Arsenal and Spurs?

The two of the usual top six who will be missing out on top four this season are going to be stronger than they've been in ages. To be honest, so far this season, all of the top six have been as good as you'd expect a team finishing 3rd-ish* (Chelsea excluded of course).

No in fact Chelsea also, they just hit a ridiculous vein of form.




* For a typical 3rd-ish team, think Chelsea in 08/09 and 13/14. Arsenal 09/10.

Edit: For more reference points actually think United during those barren years leading up to Fergie's kind of final surge as a manager. Every team in the top six is basically as good as you were back then.

 

[Dirk]

Top four isn't nailed on, but Europe is I'd say. Got to be positive about things otherwise why bother.

I really hope so but after last season's disaster I am cautious about this. (Hey maybe Liverpool plays against HSV in the Europa League when we win our 1/4 final on Wednesday in the cup...and the 1/2 final and avoid Bayern and...and.... )

 

[SALTIRE]

I really hope so but after last season's disaster I am cautious about this. (Hey maybe Liverpool plays against HSV in the Europa League when we win our 1/4 final on Wednesday in the cup...and the 1/2 final and avoid Bayern and...and.... )

There is understandable question marks about this, but I think the side has a bit more about them anyway to hopefully cope and have a strong finish to the season. We'll start to see tonight when we go up against our trickiest opponents - relegation fodder!

 

[Abertawe]

I like him but he's very close to being out of a job. Liverpool are having a terrible 2017.

 

[SALTIRE]

I like him but he's very close to being out of a job. Liverpool are having a terrible 2017.

Na, all will be well once we gub Arsenal at the weekend.

 

[Stevencc]

I like him but he's very close to being out of a job. Liverpool are having a terrible 2017.

That's absolutely abysmal stuff, I didn't realise that they'd been quite that bad this year.

Kindly
Keep
Klopp

 

[SALTIRE]

That's absolutely abysmal stuff, I didn't realise that they'd been quite that bad this year.

Yup having our regular end of season meltdown early this year, thats nice of them.

 

[Stevencc]

Yup having our regular end of season meltdown early this year, thats nice of them.

What do you put it down to?

 

[SALTIRE]

What do you put it down to?

Players lacking character if we want to use a Brendanism. They just don't have it when it counts; sometimes they flatter to deceive and put in a big performance, but its always there under the surface and its why you can't trust them to achieve the goals thats set out preseason. Big summer - again - ahead, and will need to be as you lot will probably break the transfer record again on Griezeman, and Chelsea and City will hoover up the rest of the stars that will come into the league, so we need to be canny.

 

[Super_horns]

I guess it wasn't wet, windy and cold in Spain - the weather on their return might have taken them by surprise?

 

[Bilo]

Read on another forum, regarding the squad:

The goalkeeper situation should have been resolved in the summer. If anyone said Mignolet would still be our #1 this season you’d have cried. He’s a player that’s proved over the previous three years that he’s not consistent enough but instead we buy another ‘project’ in the summer who doesn’t look like he has the tools required in this league. Position needs upgrading in the summer.

Whoever plays centre-back are brutally exposed by the system we’re playing, we’re conceding more goals than we did under Rodgers who was often lambasted for ‘not being able to coach a defence’. Both full-backs pushed up as wingers and no DM is why we’re leaking goals all over the place. Beyond Lovren and Matip we have no quality back-up, Lucas and Klavan should have been fourth/fifth choices this year yet we’re having to rely on both of them far too often. Why did Klopp buy Klavan if a central midfielder whose legs have long gone gets in ahead of him? Milner at left back stopped working weeks ago but once again the back-up is poor and we have no cover for Clyne. Need at least one more centre-back and full-backs for both sides.

Midfield is far too open, no specialist DM and two attacking midfielders who spend most of their time in forward positions. Henderson and Lallana have performed well but once again beyond them the strength in depth is poor. Can and Wijnaldum have been beyond underwhelming and have both played too often. Need at least a DM in the summer.

Firmino up front is simply not working. He’s scored in six games this season which is awful from your first choice ‘forward’. The ball bounces off him far too often and his first touch can be poor when it matters (he missed out on two good chances last night when his first touch was too heavy). He wants the ball to feet all the time as he has no pace so is never stretching a defence with runs in behind. He has no aerial threat either which makes him very one dimensional. On one side of him you have Coutinho who doesn’t really score enough, also has no pace and also wants the ball to feet. Mane has been our best forward but we’ve desperately missed him during the ACON (which was handled poorly) and need more depth out wide. We need at least one centre-forward and one winger.

We basically have a squad of around 13/14 players that Klopp seems to rate and they’ve been run into the ground, you cannot expect to get performances out of the same, small group of players all season. Our bench last night was a joke and Ben Woodburn coming on last night when we’re chasing the game makes a mockery of the ‘no-one good enough out there available’ over the winter.

The top teams set-up more balanced and have proper defensive midfielders because they have strikers who score loads and are clinical. We have to play too open and attacking because our forwards either don’t score enough or aren’t clinical enough.

And I was feeling so positive yesterday.

 

[Bilo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/borussiadortmund/comments/5s2qpy/about_jurgen_klopp/

This was a good read too

I had a deadline yesterday and I have my first day off in ages and I'm very bored so I'll keep it coming

 

[Christian Slater]

Day off well spent.

 

[G-Dragon]

Indeed we do have a squad that is capable of getting into the top four, but it only takes a few injuries for us to look decidedly mid-table. I think Klopp was hoping Ings, Gomez, Ojo and Grujic would be more available, and if they were it might have alleviated things slightly, and was thinking that Origi and Sturridge would be capable backups up front, but it wasn't to be. Hence we don't have the strength in depth that Chelsea, Utd, City and Arsenal do; so its something that does need addressing in the summer when we get back into Europe.

Ings, Gomez, Ojo and Grujic...compare that bench to likes of City Arsenal United Chelsea Spurs ...even Everton have better bench.

 

[johnnytodd]

GIFSoup

 

[Christian Slater]

Ings, Gomez, Ojo and Grujic...compare that bench to likes of City Arsenal United Chelsea Spurs ...even Everton have better bench.

All of those bench players, apart from Ings, have been masterbated over publicly by the likes of yourself. Are you now telling us these are bad players? It's important to keep up with the latest narrative is all.

 

[JimJams]

Ings, Gomez, Ojo and Grujic...compare that bench to likes of City Arsenal United Chelsea Spurs ...even Everton have better bench.

Tell Southampton to buck their ideas up.

 

[G-Dragon]

Tell Southampton to buck their ideas up.

One win and comes out of a cave. Now Woy is coming, its time for you to go back.

 

[johnnytodd]

The delusion in this thread alone from plastics like Bilo and Salty is so enjoyable to read.

If Sky tv said Liverpool are entering the canoeing world championship they would have them as a shoe in for the final before an orr was wet.

 

[SALTIRE]

Ings, Gomez, Ojo and Grujic...compare that bench to likes of City Arsenal United Chelsea Spurs ...even Everton have better bench.

Come back when you've sobered up mate. The aforementioned players would've certainly bolstered the squad just fine.

 

[SALTIRE]

The delusion in this thread alone from plastics like Bilo and Salty is so enjoyable to read.

If Sky tv said Liverpool are entering the canoeing world championship they would have them as a shoe in for the final before an orr was wet.

That inferiority complex with you lot really is something to behold isn't it.

 

[JimJams]

One win and comes out of a cave. Now Woy is coming, its time for you to go back.

Woy says he's never had the chance to manage a top team in England before and would love the opportunity to do so by joining us. Can't blame him.

 

[Chelsea Royale]

The aforementioned players would've certainly bolstered the squad just fine.