Not really in terms of the work going on behind the scenes politically.Are you in a position to divulge what the telegrams disclose? In general terms?
Many people of prominence (in politics, the media, entertainment, the arts) make a pro-migrant case. In public life, at least, it's actually much easier to make a pro-migrant argument than anything that could be construed as "anti-migrant".Where is making the "no borders" case. Or any other pro-migrant case, with the reach of The Sun?
The dimwits who reported her to the Police or talked of her being prosecuted are demanding the very kind of state-imposed and top-down censorship you talk of.No platforming isn't censorship. Censorship is a top-down imposition. No platform is a bottom up, pluralistic demand. Makes all the difference.
Okay.... Don't think you'd be quite so accepting if the EDL practiced their imagined "civic/moral duty" by forming a "lynch mob" and "politely" putting it to a prominent Muslim that he or she ought to "pipe down/retire from public life". Would you?By challenge, I mean assemble a lynch mob and politely put it to Katie Hopkins that she's to pipe down/retire from public life. I don't believe in free speech for bigots and think it's legitimate to suppress hate-speech. Like, there's shouldn't be laws against this stuff, but rather it should be done as part of our civic/moral duty to ensure that people can't come out with this sort of shite without consequences.
Well seeing as you know that some of these people are fleeing for their lives and calling the people on the boats irresponsible then yes you did say something remotely like that. It's simple logic, try and follow it.
I can't actually believe you think people dying en masse is trivial, regardless of the context or relativity of it and why the fuck you're gibbering about North Korea I don't know. How are the lives of the people who died in the sea of less value than those dying in N Korea?
UN High Comissioner for Human Righta has put his view forward. Totally agree with him too
Is he? Or is he asking whether the press have crossed the line between 'free speech' and something that would break the law.
Where do you stand on press regulation now, then? Just curious.
EG you said they were gambling with the lives of their families. You can try another game of weasel words semantics if you like, but we all know what you said equates with them being irresponsible.
Left to get on a boat ,wherever it was moored before they set sail. Come on keep up
No, I don't genuinely believe that everyone getting on those boats faces certain death. Some of them do though and some are at extreme risk of being killed.* To say that these people left voluntarily implies they had a choice which further implies that you believe staying and being killed or being at extreme risk of being killed or deciding to take your chances on the boat is any kind of choice. For those who were facing execution or being at risk of it I don't think it's gambling with with theirs and their families lives or an irresponsible act if they get in the boat.
We should be thankful we're not in the position these people are in when they feel compelled to risk their lives, but you carry on making your value judgements on people whose lives you know nothing about.
Not compared to North Koreans eh?But again, you're just creating another false dichotomy. A dangerous (and expensive) Mediterranean sea crossing is not the only way to leave Libya, and Europe is not the only safe destination. At worse I've painted in broad strokes and used language that doesn't quite cover the most extreme of life and death situations, but that still makes much more sense than using said cases as the rule instead of the exception. And if you don't think betting on an uncertain outcome like crossing the Mediterranean in a rickety boat to get to Europe is a gamble, then you don't know the meaning of the word.
What value judgement have I made? I said we shouldn't be held responsible, not that their lives don't matter.
The pretence you keep trying to maintain is getting very wearisome now EG. It'd be great if they were re-settled en masse in your town, on your street. Aggggghhh Muslims refugees on my streetThat sarcasm would be best directed at someone that had actually taken that position. Works OK as a distraction from the original point too though I suppose.