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That's Orient vs Crawley in case you were confused.

With both sides having played out 32 games in the league this season, Crawley sit in 17th on 38 points, with the Orient just about clinging on to play-off hopes in 10th on 49 points.

Crawley

Form (last 5): LLWLD

With only 3 wins in their last 10 (2 of those against Stevenage), and 6 defeats, Crawley are on a fairly average run of form to say the least, recent losses to floundering sides such as Notts County and Yeovil are clear evidence of their general lack of ability on the pitch this season. A 1-1 draw last time out at home to Plymouth was a very good result for the non-league side, but the reports say Crawley were fortunate indeed to bag a point.

Man to watch: Edwards. The number 7 has 7 so far this season (I don't really know any crawley players that well, so I just went for the top scorer)

The run in:

This is another tough fixture for crawley, coming after hard games against Stanley and Plymouth. The creeps may be used to fighting against top half teams after this run in, but gentler matches against the likes of Morecambe, Luton and Newport County await.

Leyton Orient

Form (last 5): WLWLW

Mixed form from the Orient in recent weeks, alternating between wins and draws, but masochists who watch the Orient home and away (cough cough) will be aware that the Os are improving as a unit, especially at the back, with 3 consecutive clean sheets on their travels. Home form, however, is an issue. 3-1 and 4-0 defeats to Cambridge and the Cobblers respectively ensure Orient need a big home win, not only to placate the home faithful, but also to spur on their play-off push. However, as all Orient fans are aware, Crawley are our bogey side...

Man to watch: If you're expecting to see the name Jay Simpson here, you'll be disappointed. The goal machine hasn't quite been firing on all cylinders, and is without a goal in 4 games. The Orient man to watch is undoubtedly Jobi Mcanuff, the former premier league primma donna is finally playing to 50% of his undoubted potential. A stunning winner away at Portsmouth and an assured display against County ensures he is the Orient man to watch, although his form at home has been less impressive.

The run in: The Orient have yet to play many of the sides down near the bottom, and home to crawley really has to be 3 points ahead of more challenging fixtures against Carlisle and Oxford (both away) in the coming weeks.


Head says: 1-1. Orient's home form is lacklustre at best and the home crowd have been agonisingly quiet in recent weeks. Crawley are safe, but will still come to the Road looking for a point. Orient's record against Crawley is shambolic to say the least. Orient to take the lead on 32 minutes before a Crawley penalty on the 81st ensures points are shared.

Heart says: 2-0 Orient. Nolan will have them fired up, especially defensively. Despite losing 4-0 at home last time out, the Os were far from poor, and 2 of the 4 goals were absolute worldies. Nolan himself has been average in recent games, but his fitness continues to improve, as does the team cohesion. Brisley, Baudry, Hunt and Shaw at the back are easily Orient's best defensive 4 this season. Crawey will find it hard to break the Os down, and will therefore need to defend well against 22-goal man Jay Simpson. Simpson to break the deadlock just before the break on 43. Cheeky Gnandos to come on a bag a late second on the break on 78.

Attendance: 5.061 (12 crawley fans)
 
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I've seen Crawley three times this season and they've done an excellent job at coming across worse than York, Yeovil, Newport etc whenever I've seen them. Edwards is certainly their danger man, big fan of him, remember him single handedly ripping us apart in our play off season. I think Jimmy Smith is still out injured and they've still got Lee Barnard and Woodford lad Matt Harrold as options upfront, the later of which would have bullied the shit out of Essam. Talking of Essam, Yorwerth and Bradley seem to have Essam like qualities (although I would take both over him) with Kretzschmar's goal for Wycombe as bad a defending as anything I've seen this season. Would fancy Simpson's movement to cause problems. Although I'd imagine the return of Paul Jones would have helped shore them up a bit.

I would line up:

Simpson - Gnanduillet
Jahraldo-Martin - Atangana - Payne - McAnuff
Shaw - Brisley - Baudry - Clohessy
Cisak​

I feel if we go for it we have a very good chance of getting three points, and it's something we should be aiming for.

2-0. Simpson and McAnuff.

Edit: Fun fact I've just learnt, apparently copying Kretzschmar's name from Wikipedia as I didn't have a fucking clue how to spell it links him to the Wikipedia article. Interesting.
 
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I've seen Crawley three times this season and they've done an excellent job at coming across worse than York, Yeovil, Newport etc whenever I've seen them. Edwards is certainly their danger man, big fan of him, remember him single handedly ripping us apart in our play off season. I think Jimmy Smith is still out injured and they've still got Lee Barnard and Woodford lad Matt Harrold as options upfront, the later of which would have bullied the shit out of Essam. Talking of Essam, Yorwerth and Bradley seem to have Essam like qualities (although I would take both over him) with Kretzschmar's goal for Wycombe as bad a defending as anything I've seen this season. Would fancy Simpson's movement to cause problems. Although I'd imagine the return of Paul Jones would have helped shore them up a bit.

I would line up:

Simpson - Gnanduillet
Jahraldo-Martin - Atangana - Payne - McAnuff
Shaw - Brisley - Baudry - Clohessy
Cisak​

I feel if we go for it we have a very good chance of getting three points, and it's something we should be aiming for.

2-0. Simpson and McAnuff.
Would you really take Payne over Nolan? Nolan has been poor in recent weeks admittedly, but he will only improve. I don't understand why people like Payne, he's bang average. Always exposes the back 4 by dashing in for silly tackles, and passes sideways just as much as Moore. Offers nothing going forward either (freak goal vs Morecambe aside). He may also be too similar to Atangana?

I would also play Hunt over Clohessy all day long as well.
 
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Would you really take Payne over Nolan? Nolan has been poor in recent weeks admittedly, but he will only improve. I don't understand why people like Payne, he's bang average. Always exposes the back 4 by dashing in for silly tackles, and passes sideways just as much as Moore. Offers nothing going forward either (freak goal vs Morecambe aside). He may also be too similar to Atangana?

I would also play Hunt over Clohessy all day long as well.

When Nolan is match fit, he walks into the team. Problem is, he isn't match fit and if playing 4-4-2 can't afford to be carrying that. I agree with your assessment of Payne, I think I was one of his biggest critics at the start of the season, especially for the defensive points you've highlighted which is why I can't understand for the life of me why he has been used as a holding midfielder. I think you're being a little harsh on his ball playing qualities, he is technically sound and in my opinion has the capacity to create something if allowed to push on and behind James/ Nolan is the best ball playing central midfielder we have. Moore is a weird one, always has 90+% passing accuracy, but haven't seen him do a single thing expansively with the ball and has no intelligence. Pritchard runs around a lot. I would take Payne over both of them and I expect them to end up in the Conference. I don't think there's many similarities with Atangana really, he's defensively better and physical but technically deficient.

Talking of James, any idea what's happening with his injury? He's someone I hold in the highest regard.

I think I'm in the minority of one who likes Clohessy. I think against weaker sides it makes sense to play him as he brings a fair amount to the offensive side, even if it's just stretching the play. Hunt on the otherhand I think probably shades Clohessy defensively - although I'm not convinced - but is not comparable when looking at what they bring in the final third.
 

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I still think Nolan has to play. I agree he's not 100% match fit, but as a leader he is massive to the team; he will only get fitter as well.

I think I'm one of the only Orient fans to rate Moore. He may pass sideways a lot, but he never stops running, I think there are clear parallels to Adam Chambers. He has the ability to run games as well (see home to Notts County - he was MoM even without the 2 goals). Although why he was deployed on the wing against County (away) I have no idea.

Pritchard is rubbish.

James is one of those players that plays great when the team is performing, but he will never, ever turn a game round for you. Plus he doesn't score enough and is too lightweight. But so many Orient fans rate him and cite our win percentages when he starts (coincidental in my humble opinion).

I think Clohessy is now best used as a substitute. If we're ahead stick him on the wing for Martin. If we're behind, bring him on for Hunt and push for the winner.
 
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I get the argument to start Nolan.

With Moore it's not really the sideways passing I have a problem, retaining possession is good, no point in lumping it to noone, but at the same point the attack tends to slow down when it goes through him, better options aren't utilised and he's not efficient at moving the team forward. Difference with Moore and Chambers is day and night IMO. Chambers was fantastic, for all his work rate he had intelligence in his play, good defensive positioning, awareness, movement etc. For me Moore doesn't contribute enough defensively, he's often found wanting when the oppositions attack is progressing - which is something that can be levied at our entire midfield this season - down the other end he gets lost in bodies, doesn't particularly show well for the ball, not really in efficient places to support the play deeper, doesn't get into dangerous positions around the box etc. He can run around, but so can Mo Farah.

Disagree completely on James and one of Hendon's many fuck ups was not using him as much as he could have. He doesn't score many from open play, but his playmaking qualities means that he moves the ball out so much better, his longer passing is better than anyone at the club and this in turn will create more offensive chances and therefore make up for this. I've seen criticism levied at James for his defensive work yet I'm still really to see these. He's not the most physical of players but can hold his own, more so than Payne, Moore and Pritchard. He does a good job of tracking the midfield runner when he has to and he generally maintains the teams structural integrity, unlike Payne for example who comes madly dashing out and missing the challenge, yet when the play transitions into his zone he is able to win the ball back, he doesn't run around like a lunatic so this goes unnoticed.

I personally think when James/ Nolan are fit a 4-2-3-1 with James and Atangana playing deeper with Nolan in the hole is our best midfield.
 

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I think I'm one of the only Orient fans to rate Moore. He may pass sideways a lot, but he never stops running, I think there are clear parallels to Adam Chambers.

Ha. Hahahaha! Hahahahahahaha! Sorry, I'll be with you in a minute...

...hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 

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I personally think when James/ Nolan are fit a 4-2-3-1 with James and Atangana playing deeper with Nolan in the hole is our best midfield.

Agree entirely. Think we need to persevere with Nolan at the moment, though. He's not going to get match fit with 15 minutes here and there. Has to play one up front in the meantime as he doesn't yet have the legs from be part of a two in centre mid (if he ever did). Cheeky Gnandos up top with Simpson playing from the right for me.
 

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I was on the completely wrong wavelength and couldn't workout how an obscure re-mix had got involved
I was considering stuff like "The Bends", "Reckoner" and "No surprises". The fact they did a dreadful song called "Creep" completely escaped me when I was working my way through all their decent work!
 

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TBF, the band aren't too fond of the song either. See also Led Zep and Stairway to Heaven.
 

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TBF, the band aren't too fond of the song either. See also Led Zep and Stairway to Heaven.
I think Jimmy Page likes it. It's just Robert Plant has become a grumpy old man. I can identify with that mindset.....!
 

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I'm huge Radiohead fan, and I think Creep is fine, not their best, but it has its place.

And I was thinking of the Fake Plastic Trees remix, but if you've ever been to crawley, fake plastic trees is actually a good fit!
 

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Ha. Hahahaha! Hahahahahahaha! Sorry, I'll be with you in a minute...

...hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
What's the beef with Moore? He won't set the world alight, but we definitely dropped more points when he was injured...
 

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What's the beef with Moore? He won't set the world alight, but we definitely dropped more points when he was injured...

Beef? He tries hard enough; I can't have 'beef' with a player just because they're extremely limited. But to compare him to the single best defensive centre mid we've had at the club in the past 20 years (who is still doing his stuff at the top end of the division above 5 years after Orient wrote him off as finished) is utterly facile. Moore's not even one of the best three centre mids at the club. Arguably not top five.
 
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You know we actually called him Sideways Sammy? When he was good for us it was because of the hard, dirty, leave your foot in work he did but lots of us were very surprised he stayed in League 2 at all, let alone ended up at Orient.
 

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For me Moore was brought in as a squad player, we still had Romain Vincelot at the time, so it made a bit of sense to get a cover player in.....

He is ok for this level, won't go higher, doesn't have the passing range or pace to go to League One IMO, but has done a steady job for us. Don't know why Nolan played him on the wing last week though.
 

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:animatedf::animatedf::animatedf:As for the game, I asked Nolan last night at the meet the manager if he knew is best XI & that I thought either Payne or James had to play ahead of him as they're both better passers of the ball. His response was basically, we work on certain things during the week and come Friday, a decision is made based on form, how well training has gone and the opponents.....

This is the sort of game we really have to look to win if we want to make the top 7, our record is awful against Crawley.....I reckon it will
Be the same side as last week :animatedf:

Nolan wants to play, which is understandable, but he has been well off the pace playing wise since he has been here.
 

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Nearing the end of our 5th season as a league team and if someone had told me it was P7 W6 L1 and I hadn't known better, I'd have guessed it was in favour of Orient. Wrong!
We might have Oyebanjo(RB) back for this which would be a bonus, and 2 New loanees came today so I'm really not sure who or how we'll play.
We concede a lot away recently so I'll go for 1-1.
We also have a new owner(turkish) to be ratified soon(hopefully) so a fair few fez`s may be worn by the 270 or so away fans.
The prospective owner spent all match on the terrace speaking with fans last week. Bodes well.
 

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A blow for us that Jobi McAnuff is injured. Calum Jahraldo-Martin will probably start instead of him, or Sean Clohessy.......!
 

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Crawley were appalling, probably the worst performance a visitng side has put in against us this season. We played with two makeshift wide players as well and got away with it.

We should've won by more in the second half, Nolan and Simpson both should've scored.

Our centre backs were faultless I thought with the difficult wind.

Having said all that we struggled to break Crawley down before Gnanduillet's great opening goal.

A game we should be winning, but you can't asses too much on that as Crawley were appalling - 1 shot all game.......
 

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Crawley were probably the worst professional side I've seen at Orient since we beat Doncaster 8-0 in the 90s when they had the manager's next door neighbour in goal. No idea how they're so far above Dagenham (who remain the worst professional side I've seen on my travels).
 
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Crawley are a weird one, they've come across like that pretty much every time I've seen them, yet they've had a mediocre season.
 

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