League 2 General Chat Thread

[Bottega Don]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/16/daryl-morey-crypto-nfts-english-soccer/

Anyone know if this might be their club? Seen Sutton mentioned as a name but no idea if there's any weight to that.

 

[PuB]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/16/daryl-morey-crypto-nfts-english-soccer/

Anyone know if this might be their club? Seen Sutton mentioned as a name but no idea if there's any weight to that.

I’m fairly sure it was mentioned somewhere an American group were interested in buying Stevenage a few weeks ago (around the time they made an approach for Evans).

 

[Attila the hun]

Would they be better owners than the one we got now I think so Shows how bad our current one is

 

[Cas]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/16/daryl-morey-crypto-nfts-english-soccer/

Anyone know if this might be their club? Seen Sutton mentioned as a name but no idea if there's any weight to that.

Sutton and Bradford City according to Twitter.

 

[Chris FGR]

So 25% of current EFL players do not intend to get vaccinated.

Given what Eddie Howe said the other day, I wonder if a lot of clubs are going to start taking vaccine status into account when signing players.

 

[valefan16]

So 25% of current EFL players do not intend to get vaccinated.

Given what Eddie Howe said the other day, I wonder if a lot of clubs are going to start taking vaccine status into account when signing players.

We have one vocal anti vaxer in our squad but I think some are worried about it potentially affecting them health wise and thus their career.

 

[Bottega Don]

I’m fairly sure it was mentioned somewhere an American group were interested in buying Stevenage a few weeks ago (around the time they made an approach for Evans).

That would make sense but just seen it's Bradford now

 

[Indian Dan]

Based on what, though?

For those players who are off the African Cup of Nations, I bet they don’t give a second thought to getting all the appropriate jabs needed fir that part of the world.

 

[JaredSUFC]

Sutton and Bradford City according to Twitter.

The same source now says it’s Bradford. If so, bullet dodged. I have no idea what an NFT is or how Bitcoin works, and I didn’t fancy learning.

 

[Cas]

The same source now says it’s Bradford. If so, bullet dodged. I have no idea what an NFT is or how Bitcoin works, and I didn’t fancy learning.

Me either mate. Seems to be all a bit sci-fi for an old git like me. Looking forward to being rebranded Bitcoin Bantams or some shite...

 

[JaredSUFC]

Me either mate. Seems to be all a bit sci-fi for an old git like me. Looking forward to being rebranded Bitcoin Bantams or some shite...

I was dreading changing our colours to something hip or normal.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/16/daryl-morey-crypto-nfts-english-soccer/

Anyone know if this might be their club? Seen Sutton mentioned as a name but no idea if there's any weight to that.

"The Sacramento Kings started mining cryptocurrency in their arena three years ago."

The game's gone.

 

[coronakopite]

Me either mate. Seems to be all a bit sci-fi for an old git like me. Looking forward to being rebranded Bitcoin Bantams or some shite...

Is it possible that some analytical bot got mixed up between Brentford FC, Bradford FC and Bedford FC?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1471442133022355466

 

[Chief Rocka]

Peter McLasso definitely sounds like a real person and not a sentient AI.

 

[Boz]

This is a weird one and should encourage some discussion.


Manny Monthe has been suspended for 7 games for something he said to a FGR player when playing for Tranmere in May 2021. Obviously it's now a new season and he's playing for Walsall so now they lose him for 7 games for something he did at his previous employer. Now I don't know what he said but it does seem unfair on Walsall for this punishment.

Thoughts?

Two things. It was for an alleged homophobic remark in the game v FGR. Unlike the Songo'o remark for Morecambe v Rovers this wasn't caught by the match audio and heard by everyone watching so it seems a bit harsh that Monthe has been given a longer ban. It will be interesting to read the written reasons.

However it happened to us too. After we signed Norwood he got banned for a number of games as a result of an incident while he was a Forest Green player the previous season

 

[Back in the DHSS]

This is a weird one and should encourage some discussion.


Manny Monthe has been suspended for 7 games for something he said to a FGR player when playing for Tranmere in May 2021. Obviously it's now a new season and he's playing for Walsall so now they lose him for 7 games for something he did at his previous employer. Now I don't know what he said but it does seem unfair on Walsall for this punishment.

Thoughts?

I think Walsall would have been fully aware when signing Manny that he was under investigation by the FA.
Pretty thick from Manny if he has used a homophobic expletive after what happened to a Morcambe player in a game against us for a similar offence.

 

[Luke Imp]

So 25% of current EFL players do not intend to get vaccinated.

Given what Eddie Howe said the other day, I wonder if a lot of clubs are going to start taking vaccine status into account when signing players.

High percentage isn't it, higher than I thought it'd be.

I've just said in the L1 forum, I bet the EFL are talking about excluding any positive cases amongst non-vaccinated players from total numbers if their Club tries to postpone a game.

 

[Casey]

That % is high. Is there a common reason for the refusal to take the vaccine? Are the jabs not vegan or something?

Casey

Edit: How would the EFL know which players were jabbed? That is private medical information and I cannot think of a legitimate reason for the authorities to require that information.

 

[Super_horns]

Just seen this - horrible for him.

Newport's Ellison sidelined by 'attack'

Newport County veteran Kevin Ellison is facing up to two months on the sidelines after being "attacked" on a players' Christmas night out.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Devon_Lad]

That % is high. Is there a common reason for the refusal to take the vaccine? Are the jabs not vegan or something?

Casey

Edit: How would the EFL know which players were jabbed? That is private medical information and I cannot think of a legitimate reason for the authorities to require that information.

Common reasons are the fact that

1) It doesn't reduce transmissions at all.
2) Football players tend to be healthy and are at no risk at all from covid, so weighing up the risks there is no need to for them to get it
3) Clinical trials are ongoing until 2023
4) Pumping yourself with chemicals when you may still want children in the future is neither wise nor smart
5) Nobody has the slightest idea about what the long-term effects yet

 

[Chris FGR]

Long term side effects don’t tend to happen with vaccines though. If they did they’d be showing up by now. It’s not like taking continuous medication.

 

[coronakopite]

Common reasons are the fact that

1) It doesn't reduce transmissions at all.
2) Football players tend to be healthy and are at no risk at all from covid, so weighing up the risks there is no need to for them to get it
3) Clinical trials are ongoing until 2023
4) Pumping yourself with chemicals when you may still want children in the future is neither wise nor smart
5) Nobody has the slightest idea about what the long-term effects yet

Where do you find this completely inaccurate and biased information to support your wrong assumptions?

"Fully vaccinated people can contract and pass on COVID-19 in the home, but at lower rates than unvaccinated people.

These are the findings of a study of COVID-19 transmission between household contacts, led by Imperial College London and the UK Health Security Agency (HSA) and published today in The Lancet Infectious Diseases."

COVID vaccines effective but household transmission of delta a risk for 1 in 4 | Imperial News | Imperial College London

Fully vaccinated people can contract and pass on COVID-19 in the home, but at lower rates than unvaccinated people.

www.imperial.ac.uk

“They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.”


A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated.


Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...d-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/#ixzz7FbLiqDrD

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Where do you find this completely inaccurate and biased information to support your wrong assumptions?

In the cess pit of the alt-right internet where all the anti-social wrong'uns go to have their prejudgements confirmed by like-minded know-nothings.

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Mind. Blown.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

Mind. Blown.

Very clever.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Where do you find this completely inaccurate and biased information to support your wrong assumptions?

"Fully vaccinated people can contract and pass on COVID-19 in the home, but at lower rates than unvaccinated people.

These are the findings of a study of COVID-19 transmission between household contacts, led by Imperial College London and the UK Health Security Agency (HSA) and published today in The Lancet Infectious Diseases."

COVID vaccines effective but household transmission of delta a risk for 1 in 4 | Imperial News | Imperial College London

Fully vaccinated people can contract and pass on COVID-19 in the home, but at lower rates than unvaccinated people.

www.imperial.ac.uk

“They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.”


A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated.


Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...d-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/#ixzz7FbLiqDrD

Yeah, but Piers Corbyn said it gives you AIDS. Impossible to know who to believe.

 

[Greenacres]

Two things. It was for an alleged homophobic remark in the game v FGR. Unlike the Songo'o remark for Morecambe v Rovers this wasn't caught by the match audio and heard by everyone watching so it seems a bit harsh that Monthe has been given a longer ban. It will be interesting to read the written reason.

Although it wasn't picked up by the match audio the game stopped while the Rovers captain (Chris Stokes) had an animated conversation with the referee...he was restrained by the Tranmere captain, which did strike me as a bit odd at the time...so maybe one, or both of them, actually heard the comments. This incident lasted some time before the game resumed. At the time I wondered why Stokes hadn't been booked, for having a go at the ref, I have seen players booked for far less...but also why the Tranmere captain intervened, a lot of players wouldn't have bothered and just let their opponent dig a bigger hole for themself.

However, if Monthe did use a homophobic comment then perhaps he should use the time away to reflect on what he said, the implications this has for the recipient...this type of behaviour is never acceptable.

 

[Boz]

Although it wasn't picked up by the match audio the game stopped while the Rovers captain (Chris Stokes) had an animated conversation with the referee...he was restrained by the Tranmere captain, which did strike me as a bit odd at the time...so maybe one, or both of them, actually heard the comments. This incident lasted some time before the game resumed. At the time I wondered why Stokes hadn't been booked, for having a go at the ref, I have seen players booked for far less...but also why the Tranmere captain intervened, a lot of players wouldn't have bothered and just let their opponent dig a bigger hole for themself.

However, if Monthe did use a homophobic comment then perhaps he should use the time away to reflect on what he said, the implications this has for the recipient...this type of behaviour is never acceptable.

I recall watching the footage from the game and Stokes was clearly upset at something. You make a valid point about Clarke our captain, who might often be stirring things up rather than trying to calm them down. However there have been cases of footballers mishearing, for example when Mikel believed referee Clattenburg had racially abused him, which was not established. Monthe was at FGR for a spell, so you might have some idea what he was like as a person. The TRFC fans who've met him have him as fairly quietly spoken, I haven't, but he never seemed that vocal on the pitch, so it was surprising to me when these allegations came out. Don't think the written reasons have been published yet?

While I broadly agree with your last remark, if Monthe had broken Stokes' leg with a bad challenge the punishment would be less severe. That doesn't sit easily with me, though from the perspective that on pitch thuggery may be treated too leniently.

 

[Essex2Wessex]

Stokes looked certainly agitated, maybe even furious, in my recollection, both of which emotions were really out of keeping with his usual demeanour on the pitch.

Stokes himself, in his time at Coventry, was suspended for one match, for making homophobic remarks on Twitter, and was subsequently very apologetic about it (and publicly supportive of the "rainbow laces" initiative). I don't think his earlier spell with us overlapped with Monthe's at all, so I presume there was no "history" between them.

 

[Chris FGR]

Tbh I’m surprised Stokes reacted as angry as he did, as firstly he isn’t gay and secondly stuff like that is still very common, pretty sure he’ll have witnessed plenty of ‘banter’ in that vein I certainly do where I work. Also often heard stuff directed at opposition from fans (inc our own) such as the keeper taking it up the arse etc.

Still unacceptable of course but a lot more common and not always as obvious as racism given that there aren’t any openly gay players to insult, more education needed for some I reckon.