League 2 General Chat Thread

[MrGloverLover]

So what is your point? Not the first time this season you’ve been down to 9 men.

I think last time we played you, you had 3 players red carded in games leading up to it.

No point at all other than how ridiculous a stat it is. You're a bit touchy aren't you?

If you bothered reading previous comments I said that was the 3rd time this season we've had 2 sent off. 9 sent off in total this season of which 8 have been straight reds. I know our discipline is shocking. Wind your neck in.

 

[Dave-Vale]

One of the weirdest and worst displays of refereeing I’ve ever had to witness. Absolutely unbelievable. It was worse than last weeks episode where a free kick was given for a player falling over.

Crawley are the latest in a long line of teams that come to Vale Park and waste time, fake injury, badger the ref and organise specific times in which to have a little break from the game. Their number 7 should have been sent off for almost taking Joe Davis’ head off. They keep the ball quite well but l offered very little at all going forward and had 1 real chance all game that they scored from and were gifted a goal with a fucking bow on from the ref.

Total garbage second half performance from Vale.

 

[Agombar stool]

No point at all other than how ridiculous a stat it is. You're a bit touchy aren't you?

If you bothered reading previous comments I said that was the 3rd time this season we've had 2 sent off. 9 sent off in total this season of which 8 have been straight reds. I know our discipline is shocking. Wind your neck in.

My apologies, I thought you were having a moan at the ref (one of my pet peeves).

It’s a pretty bad statistic true enough. Will the two players sent off today be banned for Tuesday?

 

[Kenneth E End]

We've committed 2 fouls all game and had 2 sent off.

Neither player complained.

 

[Agombar stool]

I didn't come out for the 2nd half, only stayed until the end of the 1/st half to boo him. We've fucked ourselves. It's quite funny in a wierd way

I can only think he talks a bloody good game as both Lee Power and Caroline Radford have both said how impressive his interviews were. Seems he can talk the talk but is failing to walk the walk.

To be fair, coming in at the stage of the season Brown and Flitcroft faces an uphill battle to try and Instill their football philosophies on players they probably wouldn’t have signed.

You can see for us we are trying to play a bit more football but when you have 7 months of training to whack the ball as hard as you can up in the air/up the pitch it’s no wonder the players don’t really know what they are doing yet. (Let’s be honest league 2 players’ intelligence isn’t the Mae West)

 

[shoddycollins]

I didn't come out for the 2nd half, only stayed until the end of the 1/st half to boo him. We've fucked ourselves. It's quite funny in a wierd way

To be honest, Steve Evans has fucked you.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I didn't come out for the 2nd half, only stayed until the end of the 1/st half to boo him. We've fucked ourselves. It's quite funny in a wierd way

He’s right ya know

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

To be honest, Steve Evans has fucked you.

He’s also right

 

[shoddycollins]

You can expect to see us firmly ensconced in the relegation thread next season based on some of the stuff that's been going on the last couple of weeks, and what I'm hearing.

The board seem perfectly content to wait until the summer before making a decision on who'll be managing us next season. They've admitted that this means we'll miss out in the transfer window as even now deals are being done and we can't do anything until we know who our manager is but still feel waiting is the right option. We have some key players out of contract, and of course loanees will go back to their parent clubs and have told players they'll have to wait, even when they've made it clear they want to stay so likelihood is they'll all go because they can't afford to wait until halfway through the summer to find out if they'll have a club to play for next season.

If things go the way they're going then we're gonna be like Blackpool that season they only had 8 contracted players with a week to go until kick-off, and I hear they've been going around cap in hand to local businesses again so it's probable that they doubt they can afford to offer contracts to players we'd want to keep.

This is all because they're just fools, incapable of making a decision when they're worried it might be unpopular. The United fans are pretty divided on Curle, it's probably 50/50 people thinking it's time for a change and people thinking he's still the best man for the job and they don't want to upset either group of fans, so they do nothing.

 

[valefan16]

Shocking referee cost us the game. Still seething and the usually calm Aspin was rightly livid after the game in his interview.

How on Earth has that referee been in the Premier League for a decade! The penalty was an absolute farce that changed the game. Never a penalty in a million years, even the Crawley players were shocked! Fails to give a worse foul in the build up on Pope! Up until that we are cruising.

Second half was stop start, Crawleys play acting went to another level especially the most ludicrous attempt to get Pope sent off for an elbow off the ball. Then we gift them the winner.

Referee lost control but the forth official did say he doesn’t know this level to Aspin! So why’s he referring it then!

That said we only have ourselves to blame for letting it get to us and not beating them.

 

[kieran_vale]

That makes absolutely no sense about the official not knowing this level. The rules are the same whichever the level.

Wasn't there so not going to comment but even if the penalty was a bad decision it appears we had a number of chances first half so should have been a little more clinical then the ref becomes a moot point. Still a bit more work to do though it's quite feasible we could lose every game and still survive. Our goal difference being a lot better than those below is like an extra point at this stage.

 

[GTFCfish]

I was quite happy with our referee, probably the biggest game in our history and he gives us a dodgy pen with 2 minutes left that could end up keeping us in the league, lovely stuff.

 

[Dave-Vale]

That makes absolutely no sense about the official not knowing this level. The rules are the same whichever the level.

Wasn't there so not going to comment but even if the penalty was a bad decision it appears we had a number of chances first half so should have been a little more clinical then the ref becomes a moot point. Still a bit more work to do though it's quite feasible we could lose every game and still survive. Our goal difference being a lot better than those below is like an extra point at this stage.

There was a back pass in the first half that should have been given; he just put both of his thumbs up to the keeper to say it was okay when the crowd appealed for it. Some of his actions were weird. He seemed to be obsessed with telling players to wait for the whistle before taking anything, but he does it in the most bizarre manner. Proper wanker.

 

[JJ1532]

Honestly can't believe that, what a ridiculous game. Mansfield start the stronger, we grab a goal from a lovely move and finish by Jones. They continue to have the better of it, we score against the run of play again. They get a deserved goal back, you think the come back is on. Then we grab a 3rd and a 4th with probably our 3rd and 4th shots of the game. I mean, it wasn't like we'd even controlled portions of that first 30 minutes, it'd been mostly Mansfield, but we took the chances when they came along. Jones, Pickering and Kirk all scored cracking goals.

2nd half, I knew we'd make it hard on ourselves. Miller almost takes a cross down for a tap in, but they score early and you are convinced they'll turn it around. We then miss 2 openings in the space of a few seconds as McKirdy and Bowery miss great chances to kill it. 3rd goal goes in with 20 minutes, you are even more certain it'll end badly. But to be fair, Artell made a tactical switch and brought Raynes on and it settled us down at the back, he won everything. Defended by the skin of our teeth and thought we got away with a stonewall penalty on Rose(I think it was Rose), but all in all, it was a gritty performance against a team that don't lose at home. Really toughed that one out, sees us all but secure our place for next season.

Barnet are 11 behind with a far worse goal difference which essentially makes it 12 with 4 to play. They aren't catching us. And Chesterfield would have to either win 4 and draw 2 or win 5 of their remaining 7 to overtake us. Not happening. Can put our feet up for these last 4, get as many points as we can and try and build on the 2nd half of the season for 18-19.

 

[valefan16]

There was a back pass in the first half that should have been given; he just put both of his thumbs up to the keeper to say it was okay when the crowd appealed for it. Some of his actions were weird. He seemed to be obsessed with telling players to wait for the whistle before taking anything, but he does it in the most bizarre manner. Proper wanker.

He just kept stopping the game to talk to players but not book them! Crawley played him like a fiddle second half to be fair. The dive feigning Pope elbowing him was unbelievable he literally went all stiff then fell down in slow mo. Luckily the referee saw what he had done but strangely didn’t then book him.

He seemed out of his depth, possibly as it is a different style at this level but Jesus. He was the worst I have seen and that’s saying something! He didn’t mind Pope getting battered all game but then gives that penalty! If you are not giving worse fouls outside the box how can you give that! (Then not the one either on Raglan second half!).

It was utterly bizzare.

 

[devilofajob]

Yorwerth was a lucky boy not getting booked for "falling over". A draw would have been fair. See you next season.

 

[MrGloverLover]

Neither player complained.

Are you a complete twat or just stupid?

 

[MrGloverLover]

I'd like to make a plea to everyone - please read previous posts before posting because you may well say something that makes you sound like a cock

 

[Kenneth E End]

Are you a complete twat or just stupid?

Oooh touchy.

For the record, I’ve got a thingy so no on the former and I own my own business so probably not the latter either.

 

[GTFCfish]

Oooh touchy.

For the record, I’ve got a thingy so no on the former and I own my own business so probably not the latter either.

Judging by some of the figures you’ve previously posted on here on players values I hope you don’t do your own accounts........

 

[shoddycollins]

Can we please sack this c*** and appoint anyone else.

Graham Westley's available

 

[MrGloverLover]

8 of our 9 sendings off this season have been straight reds. I can only think it's Darren Way's doing.

 

[TimeyWimey]

Honestly can't believe that, what a ridiculous game. Mansfield start the stronger, we grab a goal from a lovely move and finish by Jones. They continue to have the better of it, we score against the run of play again. They get a deserved goal back, you think the come back is on. Then we grab a 3rd and a 4th with probably our 3rd and 4th shots of the game. I mean, it wasn't like we'd even controlled portions of that first 30 minutes, it'd been mostly Mansfield, but we took the chances when they came along. Jones, Pickering and Kirk all scored cracking goals.

2nd half, I knew we'd make it hard on ourselves. Miller almost takes a cross down for a tap in, but they score early and you are convinced they'll turn it around. We then miss 2 openings in the space of a few seconds as McKirdy and Bowery miss great chances to kill it. 3rd goal goes in with 20 minutes, you are even more certain it'll end badly. But to be fair, Artell made a tactical switch and brought Raynes on and it settled us down at the back, he won everything. Defended by the skin of our teeth and thought we got away with a stonewall penalty on Rose(I think it was Rose), but all in all, it was a gritty performance against a team that don't lose at home. Really toughed that one out, sees us all but secure our place for next season.

Barnet are 11 behind with a far worse goal difference which essentially makes it 12 with 4 to play. They aren't catching us. And Chesterfield would have to either win 4 and draw 2 or win 5 of their remaining 7 to overtake us. Not happening. Can put our feet up for these last 4, get as many points as we can and try and build on the 2nd half of the season for 18-19.

Considering the maths, quite amused by fans on Twitter cautiously suggest we “may” be safe.

Brilliant run in the last few weeks, albeit against mostly lesser opposition. Hopefully Artell has learnt something from it (and this season). Honestly didn’t expect us to stay up for large periods of this season, let alone be safe with games to spare. It shouldn’t happen again but considering the state of the club off the field it may be too much to ask to stay out of trouble completely next season.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I stuck £10 on Crewe to get promoted this season. Yes it was my worst bet of 2017

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I still don’t understand why fans at this level demand or expect good officiating. Aren’t they part time still?

We are watching generally poor footballers, so why not a poor referee too? Do we as fans have a divine right for better?

Coventry and Notts fans witnessed a bizarre display from a ref today, his strange booking of Noble led to 2 more yellows for other players as the of players of both sides lost all confidence in his ability in the 2nd half. Noble was constantly in his ear all game and should be booked for just being annoying , McNulty committed countless fouls which went unpunished, Cov chose a weird time to hang around the ref on mass.

He then booked anyone who spoke out, one after half time whistle, one after Notts winning goal etc. He then capped it off for an Cov injury by calling on the physio for a downed player , then after treatment didn’t order that player off the field of play. A stupid rule anyway admittedly but a rule nonetheless that you see enforced ‘week in, week out’ this guy, nope . No idea.

Saying all that, he was far better than the Ref we got versus Wycombe last time out at Meadow Lane.

It’s 4 tier football, we should probably get 4th tier referees.

 

[That Fat Centre Half]

Pretty sure if the foul that results in a player getting treatment results in a yellow, the player doesn’t have to go off or something like that.

Hylton almost started a riot at Wycombe this season because of the same thing but I’m pretty sure it’s a rule now. Only a few refs seem to know it though

 

[Agombar stool]

I'd like to make a plea to everyone - please read previous posts before posting because you may well say something that makes you sound like a cock

And you call me touchy?

Also is there any need for personal insults on Ken the Luton fan?

Chill out a bit fella.

 

[PaulHaddock]

We had Bobby Madley yesterday and he was very good. Never got flustered and barely broke a sweat throughout the game. Showed the difference between PL and lower leagues.

 

[Dave-Vale]

I still don’t understand why fans at this level demand or expect good officiating. Aren’t they part time still?

We are watching generally poor footballers, so why not a poor referee too? Do we as fans have a divine right for better?

Coventry and Notts fans witnessed a bizarre display from a ref today, his strange booking of Noble led to 2 more yellows for other players as the of players of both sides lost all confidence in his ability in the 2nd half. Noble was constantly in his ear all game and should be booked for just being annoying , McNulty committed countless fouls which went unpunished, Cov chose a weird time to hang around the ref on mass.

He then booked anyone who spoke out, one after half time whistle, one after Notts winning goal etc. He then capped it off for an Cov injury by calling on the physio for a downed player , then after treatment didn’t order that player off the field of play. A stupid rule anyway admittedly but a rule nonetheless that you see enforced ‘week in, week out’ this guy, nope . No idea.

Saying all that, he was far better than the Ref we got versus Wycombe last time out at Meadow Lane.

It’s 4 tier football, we should probably get 4th tier referees.

Even if they are part time, they’re still paid a decent amount of money plus expenses for a couple of hours on a Saturday afternoon or a Tuesday evening. I don’t expect them to get everything right but I do expect them to have some level of control of the game and to have a solid understanding of the game/rules. A lot of them don’t, which is ridiculous considering they’re refereeing at league level.

Last Friday we had a ref who lost all control of the game during the second half, the players from both sides weren’t sure what was going on, he missed a blatant red card in the first minute for a wrestling move and gave a free kick for a player falling over which resulted in a goal being scored. Yesterday, again, a ref who had no control over large parts of the game and just seemed to make it up as he went along, failed to enforce any authority on the players which meant a few of the Crawley players were getting away with all sorts of fouling and horrible unsporting behaviour.

My main issue is the total lack of consistency with decisions that are made.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Dave you and Kevin Nolan definitely have something in common as he is disappointed and perplexed on a weekly basis.

Although he played all his career at a higher level so naturally he must be used to a superior level of officiating than what he’s seeing as Notts Manager