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I think you'd all be surprised at the outlook the club has now after 6/7 years of hell.

We have seemingly good owners and an ambitious manager. The potential is there for the club to get back to L1 and get established again. And I don't think our budget is that low. We get respectable enough crowds despite the last few damaging years and we're ran sensibly. I think all that is behind us now and I'd expect us to finish higher than last season.

We'll not be over-extending ourselves getting Amond. I'm sure he'd be on more at us but probably not much more. Maybe the fact is that we're a better draw than Grimsby at this moment in time.

I think so. Clubs that have been out of the league for a few years need to rebuild their football league rep. If I was a player i'd probably favour a steady league 2 club over a club that has spent the last number of years in the conference.

On Amond himself, he had a great season, but maybe there's a reason why at 28 he's only ever been a 5-10 goal a season league 2 striker and his one prolific season has been at conference level.
 
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It all comes down to money, location and security at the end of the day. Surprised though that Hartlepool have higher pulling power than Grimsby.

Players don't owe a club any loyalty whatsoever either.
 

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Every team has one or two players who could cut it at a higher league, but generally they're here for a reason. Yes some managers might find a system that suits a player, or they're happier personally for some reason in a location but generally league two footballers are shite. So saying they're Shite is pretty logical
 

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Yep, please don't tar us with The Fishy brush. I think I read someone on there saying that only Portsmouth are a bigger club than ourselves in this division. :lol: I do, however, agree with the sentiment that we shouldn't be losing our best players to the likes of Hartlepool and Cambridge (if there is any truth in the Amond rumour that is).

Behave. We are, more or less, similarly sized clubs but ultimately that doesn't mean anything when players pick one club over another. I'm sure they don't look at home averages and say 'oh look, Club A gets 5200 and Club B gets 4700 so I'm choosing Club A'.

I'm actually feeling sorry for you guys - you finally manage to get back into the FL so this summer was supposed to be a good time to be a Mariner, but instead you're worried about losing all your decent players. Doesn't seem fair to me.
 

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If players purely signed for the biggest club then we would have all the best players in the division obviously
 

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Behave. We are, more or less, similarly sized clubs but ultimately that doesn't mean anything when players pick one club over another. I'm sure they don't look at home averages and say 'oh look, Club A gets 5200 and Club B gets 4700 so I'm choosing Club A'.

I'm actually feeling sorry for you guys - you finally manage to get back into the FL so this summer was supposed to be a good time to be a Mariner, but instead you're worried about losing all your decent players. Doesn't seem fair to me.
By saying the "likes of Hartlepool or Cambridge", I wasn't having a pop. I meant similarly sized clubs with what you'd expect to be similar budgets.

Also, we're no longer worried about losing our best players because they've all gone now anyway! Well, the ones that were out of contract at least.
 

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Might be a blessing in disguise. Most promoted Clubs end up shedding their all Conference players within a couple of seasons anyway and secondly, Hurst is decent in the transfer market.
 

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No matter how big your gate is or how big you think your willy is, if you have been in the conference for so many years, you have to respect the likes of "Hartlepool and Cambridge" will be a bigger draw for players.

If your club is run properly, your budget won't be any bigger than last season as you're entering the unknown in terms of increased income. Should your club increase your budget based on what may happen, it could be another 7 years in the conference for you should the worst happen.

Luckily we kept the majority of our group when we got promoted and then shed our group once we had established ourselves in the league. This of course doesn't guarantee promotion but it does give you a big chance of progression.

Enjoy the ride but don't be that club who no-one likes because all they talk about is how big their gate is, or, well we're bigger than you because.... They know who they are.
 

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Bastien Hery signs for Accrington following his release at Brunton Park.

He showed glimpses of quality but he wasn't very consistent, and he didn't feature in the last few months. He could prove to be a good signing for Accrington.
 

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No matter how big your gate is or how big you think your willy is, if you have been in the conference for so many years, you have to respect the likes of "Hartlepool and Cambridge" will be a bigger draw for players.

If your club is run properly, your budget won't be any bigger than last season as you're entering the unknown in terms of increased income. Should your club increase your budget based on what may happen, it could be another 7 years in the conference for you should the worst happen.

Luckily we kept the majority of our group when we got promoted and then shed our group once we had established ourselves in the league. This of course doesn't guarantee promotion but it does give you a big chance of progression.

Enjoy the ride but don't be that club who no-one likes because all they talk about is how big their gate is, or, well we're bigger than you because.... They know who they are.

I thought us spending 6 years in the conference would teach us something about respecting other clubs but unfortunately we still have a sense of superiority about us. After our first leg in playoffs we still had a majority of fans moaning that we shouldn't be losing to 'pub teams like fucking Braintree'. It's going to be a shock to the system for said fans. We are back where we belong, which is a minnow in a big, big pond.
 

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I thought us spending 6 years in the conference would teach us something about respecting other clubs but unfortunately we still have a sense of superiority about us. After our first leg in playoffs we still had a majority of fans moaning that we shouldn't be losing to 'pub teams like fucking Braintree'. It's going to be a shock to the system for said fans. We are back where we belong, which is a minnow in a big, big pond.

Don't worry, the first time you lose to Stevenage at home will be an eye-opener as to the level you're now playing at.
 

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But for Podge to turn us down to go there they must be offering more than us, which was my point about Toto's excuse for leaving because of the fans being a load of crap.
Also someone on twitter saying they are owned by a Dubai based company chucking big money at it, but how true that is i don't know as everything on twitter should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Your right,that a load of cack.
We're owned by a recruitment firm,who said they haven't got loads of money,but will support the manager with any money possible.
Where they do seem to have donE well is getting some big sponsors backing the club.
 

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A quick read of the Grimsby forum is enough to make anyone laugh. They think they're a big club and cannot understand why their players are rejecting deals to move to a club that is smaller than big old Grimsby Town.

One or two may leave but it's not a coincidence they're all jumping ship.

It is funny. If we sign Amnond,that's 3 of there better players we've taken,while they've got Monkhouse & had Horwood who we released 2 seasons ago.
And if they class Andrew Boyce as a quality signing,they are in big trouble.
 

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I think the biggest issue is Hurst's insistence on only offering one-year deals. Nsiala was offered two years at Hartlepool, wasn't he? I think Amond will be offered two years as well.
 

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It is funny. If we sign Amnond,that's 3 of there better players we've taken,while they've got Monkhouse & had Horwood who we released 2 seasons ago.
And if they class Andrew Boyce as a quality signing,they are in big trouble.

Calm down mate... Monkhouse & Horwood got released...

Lets have this conversation in January.

When you realise Toto is very clumsy, although very fast which helps him out.

And Amond is a goalscorer, and offers very little, IMO, he is a non-league player.

Did you know he only scored 1 goal from open play against the top 10 teams in non-league?

makes you wonder if league 2 is a step too far
 

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Calm down mate... Monkhouse & Horwood got released...

Lets have this conversation in January.

When you realise Toto is very clumsy, although very fast which helps him out.

And Amond is a goalscorer, and offers very little, IMO, he is a non-league player.

Did you know he only scored 1 goal from open play against the top 10 teams in non-league?

makes you wonder if league 2 is a step too far
You released Monkey ? Is Hurst mad?
 

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Calm down mate... Monkhouse & Horwood got released...

Lets have this conversation in January.

When you realise Toto is very clumsy, although very fast which helps him out.

And Amond is a goalscorer, and offers very little, IMO, he is a non-league player.

Did you know he only scored 1 goal from open play against the top 10 teams in non-league?

makes you wonder if league 2 is a step too far

Don't that much about Toto,but most centre backs in league 2 are clumsy & slow,so,him being fast is a bonus.
As for Amond,even though he scored regularly for Accy & Morecombe,they still got rid of him,which is a concern.
Maybe league 2 is a step too far,but our scoring record has been utter crap for years now,so,if he gets 10,he'll get a knighthood.
 

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I think the biggest issue is Hurst's insistence on only offering one-year deals. Nsiala was offered two years at Hartlepool, wasn't he? I think Amond will be offered two years as well.

Yes Toto got 2 years,but why is Hurst only offering 1 year deals
 

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Calm down mate... Monkhouse & Horwood got released...

Lets have this conversation in January.

When you realise Toto is very clumsy, although very fast which helps him out.

And Amond is a goalscorer, and offers very little, IMO, he is a non-league player.

Did you know he only scored 1 goal from open play against the top 10 teams in non-league?

makes you wonder if league 2 is a step too far

Oh come on now, Grimsby fans have been creaming themselves silly over Amond for months. As soon as he looks like he might leave, it's 'he's only a goal scorer, nothing more'? Pfft please. He's your bloody talisman that bloke.
 

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Boyce would be an good signing for Grimsby, he was great for us in L1 a couple of years ago. He's evidently quite low on confidence after we unfairly dropped him and shipped him out of loan to some struggling sides. He's a good player at L2 level.

Grimsby have also enquired about taking Dominic Vose on loan from us, seen him like twice so can't tell you if he's any good at FL level.
 

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Grimsby have also enquired about taking Dominic Vose on loan from us, seen him like twice so can't tell you if he's any good at FL level.

Vose was decent enough for us when he was up for it, but he always seemed as though it came down to his attitude. Wasn't the quickest but had some reasonable footwork.
 

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Calm down mate... Monkhouse & Horwood got released...

Lets have this conversation in January.

When you realise Toto is very clumsy, although very fast which helps him out.

And Amond is a goalscorer, and offers very little, IMO, he is a non-league player.

Did you know he only scored 1 goal from open play against the top 10 teams in non-league?

makes you wonder if league 2 is a step too far

:fish:

Love that bitter post.

You guys were wanking yourselves silly over Amond in the Conference forum last season. I know, I read that forum every now and again.

He may or may not be a good player at L2 level. Time will tell but until you get over that we're a better draw for players than you are now then your bitterness might end up with slit wrists.

We've lost a few players to Peterborough over recent seasons. I don't class them as much bigger than us and I was a bit miffed, but then I thought well okay, they have a bit of ambition and probably pay better and then I eventually got over it. You should too, the attitude doesn't suit.
 

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Facts are that at every level of football - whether it's the Prem or step 9 - the vast majority of footballers will always go to whoever pays the better money.

Maybe this is because Grimsby are offering low wages/short contracts.
Maybe it's because Hartlepool are offering more attractive wages/longer contracts.

Either which way a footballer will be led by their wallet 90% of the time. We all lose players and gain players by the same tried and tested method. It never comes down to who is bigger or smaller or traditionally whatever - if it did, nobody would have ever have signed for the likes of Fleetwood Town; yet they've paid out some right wages over the last few years to tempt players to their little empty terraced penisular.

That's football.
 

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Haha, yeah I am with those calling out our fans who have suddenly had drastic revisions of their opinions of the players leaving. Personally, I did raise the "is Amond League 2 quality?"/"not great record at Morecambe" queries when we first came up, but I definitely wanted us to keep him. Nolan and Toto, too. I don't have any bad words about that trio. Anyone else though, I wasn't overly fussed about.

Your right,that a load of cack.
We're owned by a recruitment firm,who said they haven't got loads of money,but will support the manager with any money possible.
Where they do seem to have donE well is getting some big sponsors backing the club.
Is there any truth in the rumour that this recruitment firm is based in The Channel Islands and as such offers foreign players low tax benefits?

Read another rumour that you've offered £2800pw to Amond, does that seem likely?

I think the biggest issue is Hurst's insistence on only offering one-year deals. Nsiala was offered two years at Hartlepool, wasn't he? I think Amond will be offered two years as well.

Not sure if that can be entirely laid at Hurst's door. We've offered various players longer contracts over the last few years. Hearn, Bogle, McKeown, etc. However, I think Fenty and the board are still reeling from those ridiculous Charles Ademeno and Serge Makofo contracts and as such nowadays approach these offers with a bit more trepidation than previously.

You released Monkey ? Is Hurst mad?
Started the season well, but tailed off. Massively missed Conor Townsend after Scunny signed him. We were a much better side without him in the playoffs.
 

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Not sure if that can be entirely laid at Hurst's door. We've offered various players longer contracts over the last few years. Hearn, Bogle, McKeown, etc. However, I think Fenty and the board are still reeling from those ridiculous Charles Ademeno and Serge Makofo contracts and as such nowadays approach these offers with a bit more trepidation than previously.

Oh, I completely understand the reluctance to offer two-year deals - especially when you were a non-league side (bet that sounds good, doesn't it?). But if McKeown and Bogle are worthy of two years, why isn't Amond?
 

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Oh, I completely understand the reluctance to offer two-year deals - especially when you were a non-league side (bet that sounds good, doesn't it?). But if McKeown and Bogle are worthy of two years, why isn't Amond?
I think with McKeown, it was perhaps a reward for staying with us after a couple of times when he could have gone elsewhere? Bogle was our top transfer target for the previous two summers and was probably considered by those involved with drafting/negotiating the deal as almost guaranteed to be successful. That's just the impression I get, not based on anything. As touched upon above, maybe Amond in League 2 was considered a risky 2 year option. All we can do is speculate!
 

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