Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[Dan Phillips]

Why do you only post when Port Vale are good?

Me disappearing had absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Vale were good or bad or somewhere in between.

If you really want to know (not that I have to explain myself to you, but I shall), the reasons for me stopping posting were due to a number of things. Severe mental health problems caused by numerous things such as shitty, two faced 'mates' as well as work related issues and financial difficulties. Dealing with the breakup of my near 10 year relationship and adjusting to life as a single parent. Overcoming the mental health issues whilst running a home all by myself, being left up to my eyeballs in debt by my ex, having no mates or any family to turn to (at the time). I also lost my Grandad, and I lost my Stepdad at the beginning of September too.

So, please forgive me for my absence. Wasn't planned and hardly the circumstances I'd wish on anybody. It's all harmless fun to me at the end of the day. Don't take anything off this site into my personal life and that should be true of everybody on here. Sadly, life likes to swallow you up at the best of times so I removed myself from anything and everything to concentrate on trying to piece my life back together.

Hope you're well, and good luck in your battle against the drop.

 

[Bottega Don]

Good luck to Keith Hill who became Scunthorpe manager whilst this site was down. Would keeping Scunny in L2 be considered a success?

Keeping us in L2 would be a fucking miracle, not just a success.

Hill will be a club legend if he manages to keep our worst squad ever in the FL, we are all already resigned to being relegated.

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Good luck to Keith Hill who became Scunthorpe manager whilst this site was down. Would keeping Scunny in L2 be considered a success?

Yes

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Think if our EX manager had been willing to "Back himself" he may well have become the Sunderland manager shortly.

 

[Boz]

Think if our EX manager had been willing to "Back himself" he may well have become the Sunderland manager shortly.

Unsure for reasons of geography and future career prospects that he'd have been interested. The next NW job likely to come up is Man Utd and doubt DC will be in contention for that!

 

[Soup Ladle]

Think the Sunlun gig would've been too big for DC personally

 

[Soup Ladle]

Keeping us in L2 would be a fucking miracle, not just a success.

Hill will be a club legend if he manages to keep our worst squad ever in the FL, we are all already resigned to being relegated.

Hill is a very solid appointment, I bet he'll keep you up like

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Think the Sunlun gig would've been too big for DC personally

Did a excelent job for us, so wish him no ill.

 

[Bottega Don]

Hill is a very solid appointment, I bet he'll keep you up like

I think he's a good appointment considering the circumstances were in.

I don't think he will keep us up due to the lack of quality in the squad but I think we stand a better chance with him then a lot of other managers we could have got.

 

[Casey]

Confrontation between Yems and fans after the fa cup loss at home.

I could be visiting this thread a lot soon.

For the record he still has credits in the bank in my eyes.

Casey

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Think the Sunlun gig would've been too big for DC personally

Thinking about it, a few seasons ago I would have agreed.
but now it’s just another club with a big history.
it’s more about the level they find themselves.

wonder how much his release clause is, for the future.

 

[Sestonpoolie]

Seen Challinor described as one of the best managers in their history? That can't be true surely? Can see why he's well liked but that's surely a bit much.

Starting to feel a bit bad about it tbh. The Hartlepool fans look fucked mentally. Like a boxer trying to get up for the 10th round after being used as a punchbag for the preceeding 9.

You just know they're not going to make the 10 second count soon. Either next season or the following. They know we're coming to finish the job.

And the Stockport fans look like the cocky twat being clever on his ring walk,expecting an easy win.
Only to be put squarely on his arse & counted out,while the crowd laughs & cheers cos jo one likes an arrogant sod.

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Seen Challinor described as one of the best managers in their history? That can't be true surely? Can see why he's well liked but that's surely a bit much.

Starting to feel a bit bad about it tbh. The Hartlepool fans look fucked mentally. Like a boxer trying to get up for the 10th round after being used as a punchbag for the preceeding 9.

You just know they're not going to make the 10 second count soon. Either next season or the following. They know we're coming to finish the job.

Watched the match out of respect to DC.

Your players are going to have to get a lot fitter to mount a promotion challenge this season.
But decent result all the same, The replay will be interesting.

 

[Caitlyn]

I only look in this thread to see who Watford have hired as a new manager, about every month I browse.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

I only look in this thread to see who Watford have hired as a new manager, about every month I browse.

Do you ever wonder why there's no mention of the Watford manager in this thread?

 

[MadJohn]

Seen Challinor described as one of the best managers in their history? That can't be true surely? Can see why he's well liked but that's surely a bit much.

He'd be in the conversation. We don't have the most distinguished of histories. We've only had five promotions. We've never won a divisional title, and we've only once been successful in the playoffs (last season with DC)

Looking at our best managers from the last 60 years, you have Brian Clough, Cyril Knowles, Alan Murray, Chris Turner (1st spell), Neale Cooper (1st spell), Danny Wilson, and Challinor.

Clough took over when we were just starting to turn things around after a ghastly half-decade (five consecutive bottom-two finishes from 1960-64). Alvan Williams had got us to 15th in 1965. Clough improved that to 8th in 1967 before leaving to manage Derby. The side he built was promoted a year later under Gus McLean, then relegated and back to 91st in two years.

Knowles succeeded Bob Moncur in a season when we had 9 points at Christmas. He kept us up and had us in with an outside chance of promotion a year later when he fell ill in March 1991. Alan Murray took over, oversaw a 14-match unbeaten run to complete the season and clinch promotion, then had a very good run of managing us in the third tier before being sacked during his only bad run in early 1993.

Chris Turner was appointed a fresh young manager when we had some pretty affluent owners in the late 90s. He took us to successive playoffs in 2000, 2001, and 2002, then left to take the Wednesday job in November 2002 with Pools top of the league. Mike Newell took over and finished the job but was still sacked in the summer (he wasn't a popular manager).

Neale Cooper got the job following that promotion and led us to the League One playoffs in his first season, losing in the last minute to Bristol City. We were 6th after 45 games a year later when Cooper was sensationally dismissed (he had some personal demons). Martin Scott led the side in the playoffs (we lost the final to Wednesday aet) but we were relegated a year later. Both Cooper and Turner had a far less successful second spell.

Wilson took over summer 2006, had a slow start but then oversaw the most astonishing run of form I've ever seen (23 games, 19 wins, 4 draws). We surged from 17th in November to automatic promotion with three games to spare. He then had saw us nicely established as a League One club before taking the Swindon job.

I posted a lengthy post on this thread about Challinor's time at Pools (here). He's probably up there with most of those others, and has a better league win% than all of them. He was only in charge for 90 games, but that's more than Clough and Knowles, and not much fewer than Cooper and Murray. He did a fine job and I wish him well for the rest of his career.

 

[RiftHouseLad]

He'd be in the conversation. We don't have the most distinguished of histories. We've only had five promotions. We've never won a divisional title, and we've only once been successful in the playoffs (last season with DC)

Looking at our best managers from the last 60 years, you have Brian Clough, Cyril Knowles, Alan Murray, Chris Turner (1st spell), Neale Cooper (1st spell), Danny Wilson, and Challinor.

Clough took over when we were just starting to turn things around after a ghastly half-decade (five consecutive bottom-two finishes from 1960-64). Alvan Williams had got us to 15th in 1965. Clough improved that to 8th in 1967 before leaving to manage Derby. The side he built was promoted a year later under Gus McLean, then relegated and back to 91st in two years.

Knowles succeeded Bob Moncur in a season when we had 9 points at Christmas. He kept us up and had us in with an outside chance of promotion a year later when he fell ill in March 1991. Alan Murray took over, oversaw a 14-match unbeaten run to complete the season and clinch promotion, then had a very good run of managing us in the third tier before being sacked during his only bad run in early 1993.

Chris Turner was appointed a fresh young manager when we had some pretty affluent owners in the late 90s. He took us to successive playoffs in 2000, 2001, and 2002, then left to take the Wednesday job in November 2002 with Pools top of the league. Mike Newell took over and finished the job but was still sacked in the summer (he wasn't a popular manager).

Neale Cooper got the job following that promotion and led us to the League One playoffs in his first season, losing in the last minute to Bristol City. We were 6th after 45 games a year later when Cooper was sensationally dismissed (he had some personal demons). Martin Scott led the side in the playoffs (we lost the final to Wednesday aet) but we were relegated a year later. Both Cooper and Turner had a far less successful second spell.

Wilson took over summer 2006, had a slow start but then oversaw the most astonishing run of form I've ever seen (23 games, 19 wins, 4 draws). We surged from 17th in November to automatic promotion with three games to spare. He then had saw us nicely established as a League One club before taking the Swindon job.

I posted a lengthy post on this thread about Challinor's time at Pools (here). He's probably up there with most of those others, and has a better league win% than all of them. He was only in charge for 90 games, but that's more than Clough and Knowles, and not much fewer than Cooper and Murray. He did a fine job and I wish him well for the rest of his career.

Really good read, Enjoyed it.

Been listening to Sweens comments post DC.
He was asked how things have been/changed in training.

And he emphasised that himself and others took the sessions which was the norm.
With DC having the final say on players selection etc.

Which i thought was interesting.
Don,t think he actually fancies the role myself.

 

[Super_horns]

I only look in this thread to see who Watford have hired as a new manager, about every month I browse.

Give it time - about January I’d say !

 

[MadJohn]

Really good read, Enjoyed it.

Been listening to Sweens comments post DC.
He was asked how things have been/changed in training.

And he emphasised that himself and others took the sessions which was the norm.
With DC having the final say on players selection etc.

Which i thought was interesting.
Don,t think he actually fancies the role myself.

As I understand it, Sweens isn't particularly keen but you never know what will happen if we do well in this next few weeks. Also, his post-match comments about there being more to the Challinor departure than has been reported, and that there are "two sides to every story" will not have gone down well with Singh

 

[Soup Ladle]

As I understand it, Sweens isn't particularly keen but you never know what will happen if we do well in this next few weeks. Also, his post-match comments about there being more to the Challinor departure than has been reported, and that there are "two sides to every story" will not have gone down well with Singh

The Tees guys were all over that as well, backing up similar stuff I've heard from various sauces.

Bans could be slapped on Rob Law, Eddie Kyle and Craig Hignett.

Tell you what the Chandy's Q&A with Raj thing could be a belter

 

[Soup Ladle]

Any manager that gets you out of the Conference instantly goes down in folklore. I'm sure Justin Edinburgh (RIP) is an Orient legend, likewise many others, too many to count. So for Big Time Stockport to have a pop, well nobody has promoted the greatest potential outside the Championship from non league so they wouldn't understand that.

The fact he did it on quite possibly the smallest budget we've had for decades is a tremendous job, then galvanising the support with his style of football and personable manner.

I still don't find it in me to wish him well mind. Lots of reasons why, maybe in time and the full facts are out it'll blow over but for now he can do one.

 

[MadJohn]

The Tees guys were all over that as well, backing up similar stuff I've heard from various sauces.

Bans could be slapped on Rob Law, Eddie Kyle and Craig Hignett.

Tell you what the Chandy's Q&A with Raj thing could be a belter

Sadly I expect Chandy's Q&A to be nothing more than a cosy PR piece with vetted questions.

 

[Soup Ladle]

Sadly I expect Chandy's Q&A to be nothing more than a cosy PR piece with vetted questions.

Yes and no, Raj will see this as his chance to bite back so i'm expecting some juice out of this.

 

[Reremnart]

Good luck to Keith Hill who became Scunthorpe manager whilst this site was down. Would keeping Scunny in L2 be considered a success?

If things weren`t bad enough at Glanford Park they employ Hill. Good luck with that one Scunny. You`ll need it !!!

 

[Bottega Don]

If things weren`t bad enough at Glanford Park they employ Hill. Good luck with that one Scunny. You`ll need it !!!

He's an excellent appointment when you consider our situation.

 

[MadJohn]

Yes and no, Raj will see this as his chance to bite back so i'm expecting some juice out of this.

Oh I definitely expect that. What I meant was there will be no probing questions, no insight, nothing that could be viewed as negative in any way. That won't stop Singh taking swipes at any target as he sees fit, and listening to one of his thin-skinned tirades will likely be tedious as fuck. Again. I'll listen though

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Sadly I expect Chandy's Q&A to be nothing more than a cosy PR piece with vetted questions.

Yes it will all be preplanned, It would really be of interest just how many ? from fans are answered.

Thinking of the future i would love to watch Chandy doing an interview with Woodman.
It would be like a lamb to the slaughter. In a really satisfying way. lol

 

[The Terminator]

I can see Keith Hill either clawing Scunny away from the bottom of the table by the new year, or walking out after a month thinking I don't this!!

 

[Caitlyn]

Give it time - about January I’d say !

I just don't feel the strategy works? I guess we have just hit the screws with Nathan Jones. He seems passionate enough and got bitten by Stoke so hope he can bring further success. Ranieri seems a decent manager and I feel you guys should stick with him.

 

[Caitlyn]

Do you ever wonder why there's no mention of the Watford manager in this thread?

Becuase the pixels would run dry.... But maybe I am a bit macabre