Most tinpot thing I ever heard. (tinpot thread)

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The biggest tinpot aspect of Wrexham is that they cant see how they are just being used as a marketing vehicle. Whether you think its cringe or otherwise the reality is things like the above show that Wrexham have effectively sold themselves to be a marketing tool to be utilised whenever there's an appropriate product to tie in.

No doubt the thicker fans will lap all this stuff up while the more savvy will realise that football isnt the primary concern of the ownership anymore. The brand and how that can raise profiles of whatever shite needs selling this week is what's important.

As soon as the trends change, Wrexham will be dropped like a hot potato having literally sold its soul. You can't get anymore tinpot than that.
 

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The biggest tinpot aspect of Wrexham is that they cant see how they are just being used as a marketing vehicle. Whether you think its cringe or otherwise the reality is things like the above show that Wrexham have effectively sold themselves to be a marketing tool to be utilised whenever there's an appropriate product to tie in.

No doubt the thicker fans will lap all this stuff up while the more savvy will realise that football isnt the primary concern of the ownership anymore. The brand and how that can raise profiles of whatever shite needs selling this week is what's important.

As soon as the trends change, Wrexham will be dropped like a hot potato having literally sold its soul. You can't get anymore tinpot than that.
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Interesting gif choice because I was just about to put:

No shit Sherlock. The marketing of the club is the whole point. Thats the mechanism they are using the grow the clubs brand awareness. Its what's brought us several million in income already. Ryan Reynolds in particular is a marketing guy, its his thing.

If things were as you say, that the club is a marketing tool to promote other things, then this would only work if the club had a large visible profile already.

Will it last? probably not, but its giving the club the impetus and financial injection to get to where it needs to be right now. It doesn't have to be a long term strategy, the long term stuff are the more tangible parts of the project that are following.

But I know you are always the smartest guy in the room so I'm sure you know best.
 

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Wrexham are horrid capitalists. They should be more socialist, like us. As in, everyone pays tax thus financing our furlough and subsequently our squad improvement.
 

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Wrexham's owners won't just drop them. They're too high profile. They'll want success attached to their name and the glory that comes with it.

The last thing they'll want is to be known as two knobheads who fucked a professional football club up, especially after making a song and dance about buying it.

The only stumbling block potentially will be will be when they get to say League One and they may see their route for growth restricted and the fairytale story may just seem a bit flat and they may lack the stimulation. Same with any at this level though (anything below The Championship tbh). Although Brentford and Bournemouth broke through quite well.
 

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Wrexham being a tiny club is the essential part of the marketing strategy. If they had invested in a bigger club what they are trying to do wouldn't work. You're tinpottedness is part of the charm and why it stands out more.

Using Wrexham is a means to an end, you are effectively the footballing equivalent of a ventriloquist dummy. You must be so naive if anyone thinks this is anything other than a cynical marketing ploy.
 

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Wrexham being a tiny club is the essential part of the marketing strategy. If they had invested in a bigger club what they are trying to do wouldn't work. You're tinpottedness is part of the charm and why it stands out more.

Using Wrexham is a means to an end, you are effectively the footballing equivalent of a ventriloquist dummy. You must be so naive if anyone thinks this is anything other than a cynical marketing ploy.

Thats bait.

Another classic from the Chesterfield charm school.
 

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Wrexham being a tiny club is the essential part of the marketing strategy. If they had invested in a bigger club what they are trying to do wouldn't work. You're tinpottedness is part of the charm and why it stands out more.

Using Wrexham is a means to an end, you are effectively the footballing equivalent of a ventriloquist dummy. You must be so naive if anyone thinks this is anything other than a cynical marketing ploy.
You need to give up mate none of them are biting.
 

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You need to give up mate none of them are biting.
It's not bait, its the truth. Its the height of tinpottedness for a football club when they cease to function primarily as a football club and become a vassal to a marketing strategy.

The Ted Lasso thing is a prime example... hey that was a cool tie in that grew organically, yeah right.

All planned and more to come. Soul sold.

I guarantee Wrexham fans in a few seasons will be like the boyfriend of an ex pornstar. In theory it sounds cool but in reality they cant look in her in the eye because of the respect lost knowing the times she whored herself out and the cock she took.
 

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Its very telling you guys only come back with ad hominem attacks. It's almost as if you cant actually argue against what I'm saying. Funny that.

Next meme / gif please. Yawn.
 

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Have you recently learnt the term Ad hominem? you keep using it. Makes its use suspicious.

You are perfectly entitled to your view on Wrexham football club, but do you need to keep repeating it? we've got it, its fine. You think our new owners are a joke, the whole thing is going to collapse into farce soon. We are a tiny tinpot club who sold out. Good for you. Well done.

Youve posted a short number of times on this website and in that short period shown yourself to be a thoroughly disagreeable and unpleasant individual who adds nothing to the discourse, not even by way of banter. You're boring. What's the point?
 

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Have you recently learnt the term Ad hominem? you keep using it. Makes its use suspicious.

You are perfectly entitled to your view on Wrexham football club, but do you need to keep repeating it? we've got it, its fine. You think our new owners are a joke, the whole thing is going to collapse into farce soon. We are a tiny tinpot club who sold out. Good for you. Well done.

Youve posted a short number of times on this website and in that short period shown yourself to be a thoroughly disagreeable and unpleasant individual who adds nothing to the discourse, not even by way of banter. You're boring. What's the point?


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Amidoinitrite?

Apparently this is what passes for banter on this site. Sorry boys back to your circle jerk.
 

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Its very telling you guys only come back with ad hominem attacks. It's almost as if you cant actually argue against what I'm saying. Funny that.

Next meme / gif please. Yawn.
Here’s a gif for you:

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Interesting gif choice because I was just about to put:

No shit Sherlock. The marketing of the club is the whole point. Thats the mechanism they are using the grow the clubs brand awareness. Its what's brought us several million in income already. Ryan Reynolds in particular is a marketing guy, its his thing.

If things were as you say, that the club is a marketing tool to promote other things, then this would only work if the club had a large visible profile already.

Will it last? probably not, but its giving the club the impetus and financial injection to get to where it needs to be right now. It doesn't have to be a long term strategy, the long term stuff are the more tangible parts of the project that are following.

But I know you are always the smartest guy in the room so I'm sure you know best.
"brand awareness"

Ugh. Genuinely good and intelligent Wrexham fan using a phrase like that. Have a word with yourself. I hope for your sake that the long term strategy is as solid as you think it is, because you're gonna need it to be if you're bringing in 31 year old clogger defenders for 200k every season.

While we're on this subject, if the Wrexham brand and its awareness is so important, can you explain to us exactly what the brand is? As far as I can tell, there is no brand. So rip on WhoWasFone all you like, but he is right in the sense that Wrexham are indeed just essentially whoring themselves out. Stocky raises a valid point about whether or not the high profile of their owners will ensure they don't just drop the club, but at the end of the day are a small section of people in North Wales and the non-league football pyramid a substantial portion of their global appeal?
 
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"brand awareness"

Ugh. Genuinely good and intelligent Wrexham fan using a phrase like that. Have a word with yourself. I hope for your sake that the long term strategy is as solid as you think it is, because you're gonna need it to be if you're bringing in 31 year old clogger defenders for 200k every season.

While we're on this subject, if the Wrexham brand and its awareness is so important, can you explain to us exactly what the brand is? As far as I can tell, there is no brand. So rip on WhoWasFone all you like, but he is right in the sense that Wrexham are indeed just essentially whoring themselves out. Stocky raises a valid point about whether or not the high profile of their owners will ensure they don't just drop the club, but at the end of the day are a small section of people in North Wales and the non-league football pyramid a substantial portion of their global appeal?

we can't all be bought out be a professional 'Council Estate Lad'.

You can see it as whoring ourselves out, but the bottom line is that without substantial investment our long term future was becoming Southport. We really didn't have many options and just struck lucky with the new owners. They have a strategy to make the club self-sustaining, and part of that includes building a brand and marketing that brand worldwide- not just with a small.grpup of North Walians.

If you don't like it then fine, they don't own your club and you can feel all smug about that. But we've had 13 years down here- a whole generation of fans have never seen us play in the League, so forgive us for embracing it a bit. Particularly when the trade off for all the funny videos etc is a rebuilt ground and hopefully regaining our league status.
 

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Isn't William Wallace mostly famous for the Battle of Falkirk which he lost? Is Brechin remotely close to Falkirk?

The battle of Falkirk was won thanks to Welsh archers, finally some welshmen who could hit the target.
 

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we can't all be bought out be a professional 'Council Estate Lad'.

You can see it as whoring ourselves out, but the bottom line is that without substantial investment our long term future was becoming Southport. We really didn't have many options and just struck lucky with the new owners. They have a strategy to make the club self-sustaining, and part of that includes building a brand and marketing that brand worldwide- not just with a small.grpup of North Walians.

If you don't like it then fine, they don't own your club and you can feel all smug about that. But we've had 13 years down here- a whole generation of fans have never seen us play in the League, so forgive us for embracing it a bit. Particularly when the trade off for all the funny videos etc is a rebuilt ground and hopefully regaining our league status.
That's my point though, there is no brand as far as I can tell. It's a silly video here, an endorsement there. Perhaps using words like "whoring" is a tad too strong, but essentially it's about making money. That's not a brand, that's an objective. As is becoming self sustainable.

I know you've had it tough too, I'm not giving you shit for enjoying it. I like Wrexham as a club, I hope you get promoted out of this division at some point. I just think you're downplaying the risk factor.
 

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