New Year's Day 2024

[AdamStag]

Because it’s Wrexham, everyone would say that, everyone plays better against them that nonsense etc etc.

got it tough haven’t they

It was said as when you look at the challenge you can certainly see why a red would’ve been dished out, certainly seen them for less.

But for a poster to suggest that it’s down to who the player plays for is a sign of being tapped in the head

 

[Spanishstag]

Delaying that first beer until at least after you've had your breakfast , can't see anyone stopping the stags now, desperate to avoid playing Chesterfield next season.

Its halfway though i cant see anybody stopping us this year but its mansfield and we've done it before but i think this lot have got the minerals to see it through yesterdays performance proved that

 

[Indian Dan]

Saw DJ was involved again yesterday, is the dolly back in the pram at present? great player to have if you’ve got him onside and in the mood.

He’s signing for us I reckon

 

[Conker]

Swindon got money to spend this month?

 

[Indian Dan]

Leave it out!

He was just about to sign in the summer until he went to Walsall at the last minute. That’s how Young inadvertently became our main striker. I’m only guessing as he’s seemed to have got next to no playing time at Walsall and he threw a wobbly last week.

Get him, that fella from you, Boateng, McCarthy from Barnsley and we might just escape the drop.

More likely, we’ll sign a few young loanees, flog the 2/3 players we have that worth something and carry on floundering until the end of the worst season in our history.

What a time to be alive!

 

[Conker]

If you sign Johnson and Boateng that’s two relatively expensive signings for L2 is all.

 

[Master D]

It was said as when you look at the challenge you can certainly see why a red would’ve been dished out, certainly seen them for less.

But for a poster to suggest that it’s down to who the player plays for is a sign of being tapped in the head

It's not even a foul.

https://x.com/liamgeraghty_/status/1742115739526467865?s=46&t=mTyNxKgJ_S5cOlVMBUyGeA

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Never a red card.

 

[AdamStag]

Leave it out!

He was just about to sign in the summer until he went to Walsall at the last minute. That’s how Young inadvertently became our main striker. I’m only guessing as he’s seemed to have got next to no playing time at Walsall and he threw a wobbly last week.

Get him, that fella from you, Boateng, McCarthy from Barnsley and we might just escape the drop.

More likely, we’ll sign a few young loanees, flog the 2/3 players we have that worth something and carry on floundering until the end of the worst season in our history.

What a time to be alive!

Boateng isn’t the type you’d want in any form of battle, the lads got more fight in him than a paper bag.

Got bags of potential but one of the bigger disappointments

 

[AdamStag]

It's not even a foul.

https://x.com/liamgeraghty_/status/1742115739526467865?s=46&t=mTyNxKgJ_S5cOlVMBUyGeA

As i’ve said before i’ve seen them given and i can see why the barrow manager isn’t happy,

He’s gone in studs up. I’ve seen us get one at FG the other season for much less.

Difference of opinion but to suggest i was saying it as it was wrexham is ludicrous

 

[chipmunx]

Whilst Barrow and Wrexham fans may disagree on McLean etc it is nice to see the reaction from the Wrexham owners and general fan base to the 2 injuries to Worrall and Stephenson. A classier reaction than some others would have given.

 

[EnglishRed]

Whilst Barrow and Wrexham fans may disagree on McLean etc it is nice to see the reaction from the Wrexham owners and general fan base to the 2 injuries to Worrall and Stephenson. A classier reaction than some others would have given.

Any more news on Worrall? last update I saw he was in hospital.

Good to see Stephenson is OK. Horrible to see people actually properly hurt on a football pitch, usually for us it's Rob Lainton who got hospitalised three years in a row every time we played at Bromley.

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Yeah Rob and Ryan are both sincere if anything was to happen during a Wrexham game, or even somehow related to Wrexham. Any more update on Worrall? Haven't seen a replay of it, nor will I expect to.

 

[chipmunx]

Worrall got discharged from hospital last night, so looks like both will hopefully just be out for the 2 weeks concussion rules.

 

[EnglishRed]

As i’ve said before i’ve seen them given and i can see why the barrow manager isn’t happy,

He’s gone in studs up. I’ve seen us get one at FG the other season for much less.

Difference of opinion but to suggest i was saying it as it was wrexham is ludicrous

McClean gets carded not because he plays for Wrexham, but because he's James McClean and his reputation precedes him. Same reason Mullin rarely wins penalties anymore even when he is legitimately fouled.

As you say people get carded for that challenge all the time. In hindsight it makes little sense as neither play had the ball, both went for it - one got the ball (and was carded for a foul) the other didn't get the ball, and in fact seemed to be just going for the man but got the benefit of the doubt as they were rolling around pretending to be injured.

 

[Casey]

His yellow wasn't even a foul and there was also no replays of the other incidents due to the nature of them with both players having what looked like serious head injuries, so someone is telling a few porkies there....

If he was watching on iFollow you can rewind and watch the incident again.

I haven't watched it myself so no comment.

Casey

 

[AdamStag]

McClean gets carded not because he plays for Wrexham, but because he's James McClean and his reputation precedes him. Same reason Mullin rarely wins penalties anymore even when he is legitimately fouled.

As you say people get carded for that challenge all the time. In hindsight it makes little sense as neither play had the ball, both went for it - one got the ball (and was carded for a foul) the other didn't get the ball, and in fact seemed to be just going for the man but got the benefit of the doubt as they were rolling around pretending to be injured.

Sad if that’s the case, i don’t really know much about him apart from that stuff with the poppy (from afar), i just saw the challenge and saw what i thought.

If the lad chooses not to do so because of his irish roots good for him - it’s a democratic country.

As said as it’s not something i’ve ever really bothered with as for me it’s a storm in a teacup the above might be bollocks

 

[Gibber_McGee]

Never a red card.

Yes. Much easier with the benefit of a replay of course, so I can see why the Barrow manager and supporters called it wrong, but actually the Barrow player goes in studs first and knocks McClean off his feet, no real attempt to play the ball. The Barrow player should have been given a yellow at least.

 

[chief]

It was said as when you look at the challenge you can certainly see why a red would’ve been dished out, certainly seen them for less.

But for a poster to suggest that it’s down to who the player plays for is a sign of being tapped in the head

Calling a red for that is ludicrous, sorry.

Was going for bias as I can't see any other reason why someone would think that's a red. Must've been mistaken.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Yeah, I don't get why people are so triggered by Artell. Must have really got people's backs up when he was Crewe manager as he's been fine in all his interviews since being our manager in my opinion.

Yeah, this is something I highlighted when he came in and got red crossed on The Fishy for saying but our academy is some way off yours and always has been. They might be the best crop we've ever had, but we seldom bring players through that make it at this level, let alone go onto higher things like half of that Crewe team did. I do think that Artell being at the club gives us the best chance to get any youth players we have that are knocking on the door into the side though, I just think there are so many factors at play that makes it a bit of a lottery.

Being one of the very last few HURST IN brigade, I'd put myself firmly in the patient bracket however there's no dressing up a 6-1 defeat at home to Walsall. That's just embarrassing. And no disrespect to Walsall there either, who are a good club that I like. I'd fully expect their fans to be saying the same if we went to their place and walloped them with the same scoreline. It's somewhat concerning though to me that we go from matching Mansfield for 45 mins to then being played off the park by them in the second half, to then absolutely dominating Salford for 90 mins to then getting completely fucking spanked at home to a midtable side. Let's not forget that we went 1-0 up on 30mins yesterday too. That's some obscenely ridiculous swings of momentum in what is a small sample of minutes over the course of the season. I get that Artell is trying to play football but there has to be a middle ground between what has happened twice this Christmas and what Hurst was trying to do. I don't buy that we need to be so massively exposed at the back to be able to necessitate the shift in style that he wants, even during what is a transitional period. I don't really care if we're losing more games by the odd goal or two if there are clear signs of progress, but that's different to letting Mansfield have 39 shots and conceding 6 at home to Walsall. That defence needs tightening up as a matter of urgency and if that means sacrificing a bit of Artell's philosophy then so be it.

When Artell took charge of us we were in a relegation scrap. Philosophy went out the window and we played fast, direct and physical football which saw us comfortably survive.

I think the reason we were poor for the first half of the following two seasons was almost certainly philosophy based. He had players like Michael Raynes, who was useless with the ball at his feet, playing tiki taka football at times which was a disaster. Artell also never had a Plan B so we always pissed about with it at the back whether we were 4-0 up, level at 1-1 or 4-0 down. His adaptability since that first half-season with us was truly non-existent.

I think Artell is a bit complacent and expects to survive comfortably. Indeed, I believe Grimsby will myself, but that's why he's implementing his philosophy immediately rather than scrapping to get to 50 points then worrying about his philosophy.

My bigger concern with Artell is that he's said he's changed but he hasn't. His interviews after games are a carbon copy of ours. If you win it's down to him and his tactics but if you lose then it's the players fault and not his. Steve Davis was the same with us too. It's a trait I never like in managers and, luckily, we have a manager now that takes far more accountability than either of these two.

 

[Gunit]

It's not even a foul.

https://x.com/liamgeraghty_/status/1742115739526467865?s=46&t=mTyNxKgJ_S5cOlVMBUyGeA

Far worse than Smith’s red at Gillingham as has gone over the ball.

 

[Master D]

Far worse than Smith’s red at Gillingham as has gone over the ball.

Smith is a bigger helmet than even McClean though, so it was probably a deserved red if we're going off players 'reputations' like we seem to be.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Yes. Much easier with the benefit of a replay of course, so I can see why the Barrow manager and supporters called it wrong, but actually the Barrow player goes in studs first and knocks McClean off his feet, no real attempt to play the ball. The Barrow player should have been given a yellow at least.

Disagree. In real time, either could have received yellow cards. Neither should receive reds.

If it's true Mullin no longer gets penalities even when legitimately fouled that's on him for his past antics in the National League. He mastered the almost simultaneous contact, fall and outstretched arms appeal

 

[Stocky]

Never a red card in a million years.

Wild won't mention it all season I'm sure. He's banging on about a disallowed goal they had on Boxing Day vs us which was a bit soft but more often than not are given. He doesn't mention both their goals were offside.

 

[chipmunx]

Never a red card in a million years.

Wild won't mention it all season I'm sure. He's banging on about a disallowed goal they had on Boxing Day vs us which was a bit soft but more often than not are given. He doesn't mention both their goals were offside.

Or the 3 stonewall penalties that we didn’t get awarded when 2-0 up.... the shirt pull on Chester, the same on Ray and the clear handball. Not to mention the lack of a red card for Knoyle in the 1st match for which we got another of them pathetic "oh we're sorry we fucked up badly" apology letters from the referees.

 

[chipmunx]

Never a red card in a million years.

Wild won't mention it all season I'm sure. He's banging on about a disallowed goal they had on Boxing Day vs us which was a bit soft but more often than not are given. He doesn't mention both their goals were offside.

McClean was also the play involved in the Stephenson incident that left him unconscious and needing to be stretched off. For which he could also have seen red, but somehow didn't even get a 2nd yellow.

 

[Gibber_McGee]

McClean was also the play involved in the Stephenson incident that left him unconscious and needing to be stretched off. For which he could also have seen red, but somehow didn't even get a 2nd yellow.

Bit desperate. That was a pure accidental clash of heads when both were trying to head the ball. I know this because someone on the Barrow forum has posted pictures of the incident to illustrate just that, and pointed the same thing out.

 

[EnglishRed]

Bit desperate. That was a pure accidental clash of heads when both were trying to head the ball. I know this because someone on the Barrow forum has posted pictures of the incident to illustrate just that, and pointed the same thing out.

With that incident McClean one again gets to the ball first heads the ball and then the Barrow player smashes into him, I was shocked when they got a free kick for that. One of the Barrow players also accidently headbutted the back of Fletchers head in a different incident, presumably Fletcher should have been sent off too.

Still hasn't stopped a couple. of Barrow fans calling for an independant police complaint about him. I kid you not.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Football fans can be proper weird in fairness. Some of the stuff I’ve read about our game would have you believe Gareth Ainsworth and Danny Cowley had made a kid and he was managing us whilst we fielded the mad bastard Wimbledon side of the 80s and forgot it was football and played MMA instead.

Just glad we’ve only lost the once this season because Stags fans do twitter meltdowns better than most!

 

[chief]

Has Pete Wild started enjoying 2024 yet?