Rivalries (real, tinpot and imagined)

[AnotherSaddler]

Unicorn derby: Villa, Wolves & West Brom
Actual derby: Shrewsbury
Secondary derby: Port Vale
They wish it was a derby: Hednesford Town
The media will portray it as a Derby but will be wrong: Coventry
Vague historical antipathy: None I can think of
Abject irrelevance: Burton Albion

Villa Wolves and West Brom are all within 7 miles of the Banks's. We've played Wolves the most over the past 30 years (I think 13 times) due to Wolves being more shite than West Brom and Villa, but it's a novelty, a chance to put one over on our "Big" neighbours, rather than a proper Derby.
Villa for me would be the plum of any of those, probably due to being brought up on the Birmingham/Walsall border, I well remember Villa's time in Division 3 many years ago, the 3-0 thrashing we dished out to them led to a very happy school-week, they haven't beaten us since the 1930's in a competitive game (ok, there has only been four!)

 

[StagsForLife]

Well, we sing songs about Leeds and Scarborough, but I highly doubt that Leeds give the slightest fuck about us and Scarborough no longer exist so we might just as well be singing about Glasshoughton Welfare for all the relevance it has.

There's a distinct edge whenever we play Bury due to something that happened long before most of the wannabe casuals on both sides were born, but they've gone on to better things.

Hartlepool always travel in large numbers to us but we don't really reciprocate, then again York is a nicer day out than Hartlepool. That's currently our closest away fixture, just ahead of Mansfield and Accrington. There's a bit of needle with Mansfield, but that's about it.

Doubt there would be if Ingham didn't cheat .

 

[TowcesterCobbler67]

Unicorn derby:Coventry
Actual Derby: Peterborough
They wish it was: Bletchley fc
Secondary:Luton,Mansfield,Oxford,Cambridge,Wycombe,Shrewsbury even chesterfield we have history with and Bletchley fc

 

[Richard Cranium]

Our fans seem to have past with Shrewsbury over something that went off years back. Wouldn't really call it a rivalry mind. Footy manager lists Luton as one of our rivals aswell which is odd.

We have Chesterfield. Then we have Notts County and Lincoln.

 

[Tom_CUFC]

Our derby is Peterborough, the only other "rivalries" we have depend on a mixture of locality and whether we are in the same division as them or not. It's probably been at least 10 teams in the 20 years I've been going, but as far as I remember we never sang/sing anything about those teams, only Peterborough.

The one the media really want to be a derby is us and Oxford, never has, never will be, not even a little bit.

 

[Chippy]

Watford.

Perhaps QPR.

Other than that, no. Plenty of Stevenage/Cambridge fans who like to think we are rivals. Even the franchise believe so. Not a chance, however. Couldn't give a toss about first two and the Wankleman's rented associates are hated for non footballing reasons.

 

[Vanni]

Watford.

Perhaps QPR.

Other than that, no. Plenty of Stevenage/Cambridge fans who like to think we are rivals. Even the franchise believe so. Not a chance, however. Couldn't give a toss about first two and the Wankleman's rented associates are hated for non footballing reasons.

I'll say this again. Only our younger supporters - those who started following Utd during our n/l years - think we're rivals, as do your younger fans judging from Outlaws. Now, I only visit your forum once or twice every couple of months, but there's always some kid posting something about us. Remember that prior to 2005, the year we went down, we couldn't care less about each other.

Our rivals are Pish and Pish only. But we do dislike some other sides such as Stevenage(who doesn't?), the Cobblers and Orient. Some of the older fans will also include Colchester and Southend in that list.

Several U's may not actually hate you lot, but you're on the dislike list too, for obvious reasons. However we also respect you in a strange kind of way, as Luton are a proper club after all. Personally, I have some friends of mine who are Luton fans, and I get along with 'em just fine. Thing is I have to watch what I say about the Hatters

 

[shoddycollins]

for the Wombles ours is obviously the MK Mongs.

I can't claim to know much Wombly history, but I certainly know of a few Wimbledon fans who would vociferously dispute that.

 

[AdamStag]

We only really have two. Forest is obviously the main one, they claim not to care but have been notable by their pitch invading, wild celebrations in recent League Cup and friendly meetings. Mansfield is decent, both clubs seem to accept it as their second biggest game so there's not really any pretending not to care.

We've had some tasty encounters with Lincoln but they seem to have disappeared off the map and Burton seemed to think it was a derby during the one season we've ever been in the same division.

There's some historical dislike going on with Bristol Rovers, but I'm not sure either side remembers why any more.

Burton tried it with us but we just weren't bothered with them.

Id say
1 Chesterfield
2 notts co
3 Rotherham
4 lincoln
5 york

 

[Barton Cobbler]

Our derby is Peterborough, the only other "rivalries" we have depend on a mixture of locality and whether we are in the same division as them or not. It's probably been at least 10 teams in the 20 years I've been going, but as far as I remember we never sang/sing anything about those teams, only Peterborough.

I don't like to pull rank here, but we have hated Pish for a lot longer than you boys, we even had them removed from Northamptonshire when you boys were still non league.

 

[LadyWomble]

for the Wombles ours is obviously the MK Mongs.

Erm, I beg to differ. Never in a million years would I consider them rivals. The average fan relishes the thought of playing their rivals. They may enjoy their struggles but rarely, if ever, want them to disappear altogether - where would be the fun in that? I have never, and never will, recognise franchise as a legitimate club, hoped we would never have to play them and wish they'd go bust or just FOAD. Sadly doesn't look like happening but they are not our rivals and never will be.

We don't really have a rival as such. Not having spent much time in any division probably plays a part.

 

[Wombling Kiwi]

Erm, I beg to differ. Never in a million years would I consider them rivals. The average fan relishes the thought of playing their rivals. They may enjoy their struggles but rarely, if ever, want them to disappear altogether - where would be the fun in that? I have never, and never will, recognise franchise as a legitimate club, hoped we would never have to play them and wish they'd go bust or just FOAD. Sadly doesn't look like happening but they are not our rivals and never will be.

We don't really have a rival as such. Not having spent much time in any division probably plays a part.

My take on the "rivalry" is the team you most want to beat, or in this case, piss off completely.
There does seem to be a bit of feeling in the games against Creepy Crawley, have got that right ? Daggers is a London Derby, but I have the feeling that in the not too distant future we could be 2 leagues apart, us up, them down.

 

[cufc17]

Yeah we don't really have a 'proper' rivalry either.

As shoddy mentioned earlier in the thread, we often tag along to a team every season. Recently, there's been Hartlepool, Preston, Leeds and Morecambe. I wouldn't class any of them as a rivalry, just a game with added intensity.

Potentially a mini rivalry with Barrow if we cross paths in the near future, but again it wouldn't be a massive derby.

 

[LadyWomble]

My take on the "rivalry" is the team you most want to beat, or in this case, piss off completely.
There does seem to be a bit of feeling in the games against Creepy Crawley, have got that right ? Daggers is a London Derby, but I have the feeling that in the not too distant future we could be 2 leagues apart, us up, them down.

Our antipathy towards Creepy was really down to Steve Jabba the Gut Evans. Odious crook who was very easy to wind-up. It cranked up, especially when Crawley fans realised we (and most others) didn't think much of their club and mysterious financing so they decided they didn't like us either. Stuff of the playground.

Daggers v us is referred to as the District Line derby but it's a bit of a joke description with no real rivalry and certainly no animosity between us. Not sure about the 2 leagues apart comment, especially that way round, we'll probably both be chugging along in L2 for a while yet.

 

[Wombling Kiwi]

I Have found our rival, after comments by "spireite_uk", in the Wimbledon vs Mansfield tread, cheaterfeild can go fu*k them selves, just wait till we play them. condensing ar*ehole.

 

[rudebwoyben]

I Have found our rival, after comments by "spireite_uk", in the Wimbledon vs Mansfield tread, cheaterfeild can go fu*k them selves, just wait till we play them. condensing ar*ehole.

Out of a slight felt by an individual, a rivalry is born!

 

[Clapham Womble]

I Have found our rival, after comments by "spireite_uk", in the Wimbledon vs Mansfield tread, cheaterfeild can go fu*k them selves, just wait till we play them. condensing ar*ehole.

Chill mate, you'll have every other team in the league down as our rival if you allow yourself to be wound up that easily.

 

[Clapham Womble]

Ignoring MK (which I try to do), the only one that springs to mind really is Crawley. But, as LadyWomble pointed out, it never really was particularly fierce (other than for a couple of games in the conference) and it's not so much fun now that Evans is no longer in charge.

As we rose up through the leagues we encountered plenty of teams local to us that got up our noses a bit (looking at you Hampton & Richmond and Carshalton). But in league terms we unfortunately missed the three teams that might have really got a bit of interest going: Kingstonian, Sutton and Woking.

 

[Trapdoor]

Proper Derby: Plymouth Argyle.
Friendly rivalry: Torquay, Bristol Rovers, Bristol City, Yeovil

 

[TowcesterCobbler67]

Proper Derby: Plymouth Argyle.
Friendly rivalry: Torquay, Bristol Rovers, Bristol City, Yeovil

beautiful

 

[MrGloverLover]

We haven't had a derby for gawd knows how many years. Our traditional rivals are Weymouth but they're 4 leagues below us now. Give it a couple of years though....

Bath City used to be rivals as well but they've done the same as Weymouth. There was a big beef with Hereford which built up over 20 years but then they went bust.

 

[Aber gas]

We haven't had a derby for gawd knows how many years. Our traditional rivals are Weymouth but they're 4 leagues below us now. Give it a couple of years though....

Bath City used to be rivals as well but they've done the same as Weymouth. There was a big beef with Hereford which built up over 20 years but then they went bust.

We haven't had a derby for gawd knows how many years. Our traditional rivals are Weymouth but they're 4 leagues below us now. Give it a couple of years though....

Bath City used to be rivals as well but they've done the same as Weymouth. There was a big beef with Hereford which built up over 20 years but then they went bust.

The moral of the story appears to be , fuck with Yeovil and you go bust

 

[MrGloverLover]

The moral of the story appears to be , fuck with Yeovil and you go bust

 

[ambernuts]

I've been told by several people in the past that Cambridge City & Ipswich was the true East Anglian derby. Both were the top amateur sides in the country, Ipswich pursued league football and City did not. I dread to think what world I'd be living in if City hadn't turned election down.

 

[GEORGE]

You also think Crawley are a bigger club than us, so maybe you're long overdue being checked into one of those homes for the elderly?

Where have I stated Crawley are bigger than you ??? Please expand.

 

[Gashead]

There's some historical dislike going on with Bristol Rovers, but I'm not sure either side remembers why any more.

Something to do with playing on and scoring from a 'play it back to the keeper' situation which ended up in us being relegated I think. Not that it particularly riles anybody now.

As for the thread, City are the obvious ones for us, doesn't take much explaining I guess.

The media like to build up anything between us and the Cornwall coastline as a 'derby', but realistically Plymouth for example is further away than some London teams and none of them (Exeter, Yeovil, Plymouth, previous seasons Torquay to the south and Cheltenham to the north of us) are rivalries - at least not serious ones. Swindon always used to have a slight edge to it, but again not really a rivalry. The welsh teams are a non-starter, I've only seen us play Cardiff once, and whilst there was a bit of atmosphere whenever we played Swansea in League 2 and then in League 1 a few years later, we haven't played them in nearly a decade so I'd say those rivalries are even less serious than the ones mentioned above.

Some 'rivalries' are based on football alone, and Notts above is a good example. Wycombe in the past could fall into this category, I suppose to an extent Barnet last season was a fun, competitive rivalry to have. I don't think these are great examples of 'rivalries' though, because any club could have taken the place of the clubs mentioned.

 

[shoddycollins]

I Have found our rival, after comments by "spireite_uk", in the Wimbledon vs Mansfield tread, cheaterfeild can go fu*k them selves, just wait till we play them. condensing ar*ehole.

Spireite could make anyone hate Chesterfield... if memory serves correct he's their archwum right? Remember a Chesterfield fan trying to wind me up on some thread on the old forum.

 

[Vanni]

I've been told by several people in the past that Cambridge City & Ipswich was the true East Anglian derby. Both were the top amateur sides in the country, Ipswich pursued league football and City did not. I dread to think what world I'd be living in if City hadn't turned election down.

Interesting. First time I've heard of the City/Ipswich derby, though I've heard a lot of Cambridge City related stories. What seems hard to believe now is that they actually had many more supporters than we did, and they were regarded as the City's number 1 club. Fair to say that hundreds must have jumped ship when we were admitted to the FL.

 

[shoddycollins]

Something to do with playing on and scoring from a 'play it back to the keeper' situation which ended up in us being relegated I think. Not that it particularly riles anybody now.

As for the thread, City are the obvious ones for us, doesn't take much explaining I guess.

The media like to build up anything between us and the Cornwall coastline as a 'derby', but realistically Plymouth for example is further away than some London teams and none of them (Exeter, Yeovil, Plymouth, previous seasons Torquay to the south and Cheltenham to the north of us) are rivalries - at least not serious ones. Swindon always used to have a slight edge to it, but again not really a rivalry. The welsh teams are a non-starter, I've only seen us play Cardiff once, and whilst there was a bit of atmosphere whenever we played Swansea in League 2 and then in League 1 a few years later, we haven't played them in nearly a decade so I'd say those rivalries are even less serious than the ones mentioned above.

Some 'rivalries' are based on football alone, and Notts above is a good example. Wycombe in the past could fall into this category, I suppose to an extent Barnet last season was a fun, competitive rivalry to have. I don't think these are great examples of 'rivalries' though, because any club could have taken the place of the clubs mentioned.

I know Bristol City don't get on too well with Cardiff, as I had the pleasure of watching us play City in the JPT final some years ago when it was in Cardiff.

 

[shoddycollins]

Proper Derby: Plymouth Argyle.
Friendly rivalry: Torquay, Bristol Rovers, Bristol City, Yeovil

I remember Helen Chamberlain always used to claim that Torquay v Exeter was the big-one, and the both teams viewed Plymouth as a sort of benevolent older brother... was that wishful thinking on her part?