Saturday 19th August Fixtures

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Again he’s talking like he only had to turn up to win against teams like us.

I’ve seen Barton’s post match interview and that’s also an arrogant way to look at it, along with blaming all his players and nothing on him.

Finley disrespected our club in the way he talks. No disrespect from my side on those clubs mentioned but simply pointing out he needs to remember who he was playing against yesterday. I mean, we’re amazingly top of the league. In Barton’s words.
Fair enough pal, I will admit I don’t really ever care about opposition thoughts, especially after we’ve beaten them.

Although tbf, you are amazingly top. Not in terms of how effective you are, but just how unexpected that’s been.

Wish you guys well for the rest of the season. Won’t lie that with hindsight, I’m not too gutted I missed it while on holiday!
 
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Fair enough pal, I will admit I don’t really ever care about opposition thoughts, especially after we’ve beaten them.

Although tbf, you are amazingly top. Not in terms of how effective you are, but just how unexpected that’s been.

Wish you guys well for the rest of the season. Won’t lie that with hindsight, I’m not too gutted I missed it while on holiday!
Absolutely, dont care what the oppositiion says they are talking to their own fans anyway.
We got what we deserved yesterday, zilch, but had Collins scored we may have gone on to win that as Cambridge would have needed to push forward.
Just shows the need for someone to finish these chances off (far too many missed already this season), and also a plan B against teams who sit back and wait for us to take the game to them.
 

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Well after making it home around 12.30am after the complete cluster fuck that Avanti and Northern rail trains are after cancelling and delaying virtually every possible service in and out of Blackpool and back to London from Preston at least we got a point and a clean sheet.

Draw was a fair result, both sides had chances ours were all in the in first half and second half Blackpool tried to bully us as we're not the most imposing team with balls in the box, but we defended well enough. A bit pissed off at the end we nearly threw it away after overplaying yet again on the edge of our opponents box and getting countered on when losing it.

Sam Howes played better in goal for us, pleased for him that he kept a clean sheet. I'd have taken a draw before the game as we could only name 6 subs on a very young bench. We have 7 players out injured and some sort of a bug seems to be going round the camp as well.

Blackpool were tough to play against but you could see they were two leagues abover us last year.

Also Blackpool don't let you take your own food and drink into the ground, the fucking c***. I just about managed to sneak my water and sandwich in.

Thank god I don't have to go there again this season.................oh wait we have Fleetwood away in 6 weeks.

I took loads of food in on Tuesday?

Even had a can in my bag too. :lol:
 

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folletto Just circling back to when your lad went clear in the first half I’ve seen a vlog posted by one of our fans on YouTube and have to say you were right it was a foul and he should have gone so yeah I got that one wrong. Real time it looked a good challenge to me but after seeing a close up it’s not much of a question.

Overall though an enjoyable day at the Valley. Did get a sense from speaking to a couple of Charlton fans on the train from London Bridge that they were pretty underwhelmed to say the least with how things are going. To me I just thought Charltons approach second half was the wrong way to go and caused their own downfall a bit.

For us thought it was a great effort from our midfield especially Funso Ojo and Ethan Chislett, in the case of the former he really controlled things. Pleased to see Wilson get his first in what must be a very long time too, hopefully that can get him going now.
Looks a set foul from the front and guess it evens it up, although this angle their lad appears to actually kick through the back of Funso who just gets his leg in front.


So maybe not, either way Gill was quality last season but had a bad afternoon here arguably two massive decisions wrong all be it one each.
 

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:ffs: You clearly aren’t capable of understanding so we’ll leave it at that.

I understand your definition of 'fine margins', it involves your players literally not threatening the opposition goal and losing.
 

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Looks a set foul from the front and guess it evens it up, although this angle their lad appears to actually kick through the back of Funso who just gets his leg in front.


So maybe not, either way Gill was quality last season but had a bad afternoon here arguably two massive decisions wrong all be it one each.
Are last man fouls now an actual sending off? I thought they changed the rules that it's a yellow now if they make a general attempt for the ball.
 

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an uninspired win against Fleetwood, who seem to be in a bit of a bad way, hasn’t done much to appease the fans. The Oxford game saw Kane Wilson, Joe Ward and Max Bird all sidelined for a couple of months so I think any win has to be celebrated so soon on the back of that.

Waghorn has started well in familiar surroundings, plus it was good to see Rooney and Thompson have good games. I hope they can both establish themselves this season, Rooney in particular looks to be a player and it seems like our defensive recruits from the summer aren’t the best so we need to lean on him a bit more.
 

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I understand your definition of 'fine margins', it involves your players literally not threatening the opposition goal and losing.
I think it’s only if it results in a penalty hence avoiding the double jeopardy of red and penalty as technically your still getting a clear goal scoring opportunity, but outside box would still be red.
 

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Just seen that Northampton goal! Amazing! :lol:

Mind you that pitch invasion.. last time we went on the pitch celebrating a goal Northampton fans were claiming we were match fixing…
 

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Are last man fouls now an actual sending off? I thought they changed the rules that it's a yellow now if they make a general attempt for the ball.
If true that’s very interesting and would explain why we didn’t get what I thought was a certain red at Charlton.

Still, stupid rule if so. If you’re last man and denying a goal scoring opportunity is just has to be a red.
 

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I understand your definition of 'fine margins', it involves your players literally not threatening the opposition goal and losing.

No for the thousandth time you idiot, it means a game where the scoreline was marginal like y’know… 1-0. You can’t get more marginal than that incase you weren’t aware. Or when testing efforts on goalkeepers were few and far between, as was the case in this game. Or even XG if you want to go down that route.

I’m not interested in your hypothetical fantasy scenarios that may have happened if certain players had done certain things completely different in a parallel universe which may or may not have resulted in more goals for your team if the stars had aligned differently. You mentioned the word “fact” further up, yet your argument against it being a marginal game is based on ifs, could haves and should haves, not on what actually happened. It was a fine margin game of football that you (deservedly so) won by one goal, yes one. That’s it.

I’ve already tried to explain it on multiple occasions but it just won’t sink in to your dense skull. Now it’s getting boring. Consider this conversation muted.
 

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No for the thousandth time you idiot, it means a game where the scoreline was marginal like y’know… 1-0. You can’t get more marginal than that incase you weren’t aware. Or when testing efforts on goalkeepers were few and far between, as was the case in this game. Or even XG if you want to go down that route.

I’m not interested in your hypothetical fantasy scenarios that may have happened if certain players had done certain things completely different in a parallel universe which may or may not have resulted in more goals for your team if the stars had aligned differently. You mentioned the word “fact” further up, yet your argument against it being a marginal game is based on ifs, could haves and should haves, not on what actually happened. It was a fine margin game of football that you (deservedly so) won by one goal, yes one. That’s it.

I’ve already tried to explain it on multiple occasions but it just won’t sink in to your dense skull. Now it’s getting boring. Consider this conversation muted.

Temper, temper.

1-0 isn't marginal/fine margins if your team can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. And it isn't hypothetical, you couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo as the match stats demonstrate.

Where did I mention the word 'fact'? You seem to be making stuff up now.
 

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I think it’s only if it results in a penalty hence avoiding the double jeopardy of red and penalty as technically your still getting a clear goal scoring opportunity, but outside box would still be red.

I thoroughly agree but I think you may have responded to the wrong post. :)
 

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Are last man fouls now an actual sending off? I thought they changed the rules that it's a yellow now if they make a general attempt for the ball.
That is true although probably applied differently by each official which is why you get inconsistencies.
 

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Are there any Peterborough fans on here? Or have they not worked out how to use the internet yet?
 

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Looks a set foul from the front and guess it evens it up, although this angle their lad appears to actually kick through the back of Funso who just gets his leg in front.


So maybe not, either way Gill was quality last season but had a bad afternoon here arguably two massive decisions wrong all be it one each.
Still a foul for me but to be fair to the referee, I think both decisions in real time are hard to see - I thought the Ojo tackle was perfect in real time. Also think it was the lino that gave the penalty.

Either way, it didn't get given and we went on and shipped 3 at home which simply isn't good enough if we want to be anywhere near throwing up a challenge for playoffs, which given how we've been so far already doesn't look likely.
 

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Are there any Peterborough fans on here? Or have they not worked out how to use the internet yet?
There was one on for a bit last season who gladly doesn’t post on here nowadays, was a complete moron.

KTF.
 
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Still a foul for me but to be fair to the referee, I think both decisions in real time are hard to see - I thought the Ojo tackle was perfect in real time. Also think it was the lino that gave the penalty.

Either way, it didn't get given and we went on and shipped 3 at home which simply isn't good enough if we want to be anywhere near throwing up a challenge for playoffs, which given how we've been so far already doesn't look likely.
Maybe the manager? His post match interview was a bit strange, moaning about our long throw and balls into the box which is part of the game, I am really impressed with your summer business and despite the loss our POD felt your the best side we've faced thus far.
 

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Still a foul for me but to be fair to the referee, I think both decisions in real time are hard to see - I thought the Ojo tackle was perfect in real time. Also think it was the lino that gave the penalty.

Either way, it didn't get given and we went on and shipped 3 at home which simply isn't good enough if we want to be anywhere near throwing up a challenge for playoffs, which given how we've been so far already doesn't look likely.

Yeah agreed. In all honesty with both incidents the penalty doesn’t happen if Iacovitti doesn’t get rolled like he did by Kanu and then the Funso foul maybe Blackett-Taylor needed to be bit cuter with knocking it a little bit further ahead.

I think it’s still very early days and will get a better read on everyone after 10 games. The table right now will throw up some anomalies like us in 9th but with -5 GD which doesn’t feel like a normal thing. Probably need a bit more of a leader to accompany your young players certainly at centre back and still think you’ll do fine. Even Saturday if you get the second goal then it’s a comfortable win for you so it’s not a million miles off.
 

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Had time to reflect......I doubt yesterday is a one-off...The first goal we did not need to give the corner away. No communication between Baxter and Iredale a simple shout would have averted this,
The second awful defending a shout for a free-kick foul but simply we got brushed off too easy
The third woeful defending once more and the fourth likewise. Midfield we got done even though we had 3 to there 2........Up front fooking toothless.
Major changes needed going forward.....Toal in asap a new rwb brought in asap Thomason and Maghoma to replace Morley and Sheehan and Charles back to partner Adaboyejo
Mate you need to find a middle ground. We are either the best team in the world or need to change everything…. Saturday was shit but it happens. Sunderland got pumped 6-0 by us and got promoted.

Over the season these xg stats add up. Over 1 game it doesn’t matter but it’s like the whole moneyball thing. If we consistently create these chances and limit the opposition we are going to be where we need to be at the end of the season. And it doesn’t take away from the fact we were excellent in the other 3 games this season. Big reaction needed at the weekend but if we have 12 points from possible 15 then we would all have taken that at the start of the season. Just look at Vale… they’re above Barnsley now after opening day. We are 100% on the right track. We don’t need wholesale changes.
 

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The signings we have made have been good but we are still lacking in depth. We have three untested 18 year olds from the academy starting, one of whom is the only RB we have at the moment and unfortunately at fault for the third. Will be interesting to see who we get through the door, I really don't trust Charlie Methven unfortunately.
We have Oxford away next where we never get a result so anxious times ahead.
 

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Goalkeepers seem to summon their inner Buffon against us. Cant remember the last time we benefitted from a keeper cock-up
 

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Mate you need to find a middle ground. We are either the best team in the world or need to change everything…. Saturday was shit but it happens. Sunderland got pumped 6-0 by us and got promoted.

Over the season these xg stats add up. Over 1 game it doesn’t matter but it’s like the whole moneyball thing. If we consistently create these chances and limit the opposition we are going to be where we need to be at the end of the season. And it doesn’t take away from the fact we were excellent in the other 3 games this season. Big reaction needed at the weekend but if we have 12 points from possible 15 then we would all have taken that at the start of the season. Just look at Vale… they’re above Barnsley now after opening day. We are 100% on the right track. We don’t need wholesale changes.
Never mentioned wholesale changes........Toal, Bodvarrson and Charles are better than what played Saturday
Admit that two are coming back from a period out and Charles was suspended so those three will return sooner rather than later..Baxter i hope was a one off, Cogley looks good but needs competition and Thomason is unlucky to find himself without a shirt. Maghoma and Gomes are equally as good as Morley and Sheehan so it is now up to Evatt to earn his money and get it right.

We are not the best team in that league.....Saturday proved that but not many have a squad as deep as ours and that will pay off when injuries kick in
 

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Mate you need to find a middle ground. We are either the best team in the world or need to change everything…. Saturday was shit but it happens. Sunderland got pumped 6-0 by us and got promoted.

Over the season these xg stats add up. Over 1 game it doesn’t matter but it’s like the whole moneyball thing. If we consistently create these chances and limit the opposition we are going to be where we need to be at the end of the season. And it doesn’t take away from the fact we were excellent in the other 3 games this season. Big reaction needed at the weekend but if we have 12 points from possible 15 then we would all have taken that at the start of the season. Just look at Vale… they’re above Barnsley now after opening day. We are 100% on the right track. We don’t need wholesale changes.
Sorry, they've just lost 4 nil. How can they have an xG against of 1?
 

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