Saturday 30th July

Spanishstag

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 9, 2017
Messages
1,210
Reaction score
183
Points
63
Location
Spain
Supports
Mansfield town
I like Clough being our manager, and at times like at Northampton in the play-offs, he gets it absolutely spots on and we did a job on them but just like any L2 manager he’s got flaws and today they showed up because he’s the reason we lost today with a ridiculous starting line up.

We need to actually spunk some money on players, we’ve brought in five players, three are loans and two are goalkeepers. The squad needs a commanding centre back and a forward player, but Clough is making out we are only after the latter now.
What gets me was that in his interview afterwards he named a few players for having bad performances ,yet never once came close to accepting any blame ,in fact he said the system wasn,t a problem as we had been playing it for the last month ,not with those bloody players though lets hope we get at least another couple ,in at least though realistically we need three minimum
 

Super_horns

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
9,210
Reaction score
974
Points
113
Supports
WATFORD
Seen highlights on itv.

Doncaster should be fining the fuck out of Lee Tomlin for that. Fucking idiot, I’d be fuming if one of our players got themselves sent off for that.
On the highlights Dean Ashton seemed to blame the ref more than anyone else for getting “involved “
 

Sestonpoolie

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 3, 2015
Messages
1,330
Reaction score
330
Points
83
Location
Hartlepool
Supports
Hartlepool
We were fantastic today, team that with a poor Hartlepool and you get a result like that.

Peter Clarke was fantastic, exactly what we have lacked. A proper old fashioned CB who reads the game extremely well. Next to him you have two powerful and pacey defenders, we won’t concede many if Monthe, Clarke & Daniels perform week in week out.

Hutchinson was exactly what we have missed going forward, fantastic work for our second goal.

Johnson up front was superb up front, his work rate was first class & deserved all three goals.

It was the most complete performance I have seen since we dropped into league 2. Long may it continue.
I said I didn't know what to expect,a win or a tonking,the latter was right.
I've seen some shyte over the years watching Pools & that performance was up there with the worst.
However,your press & workrate was very good ,played some nice stuff & your number 6 was outstanding.
Good job I had a bottle of gin for the journey home.
 

Stringy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2015
Messages
1,118
Reaction score
432
Points
83
Location
Sheffield
Supports
Mansfield
there was some real bother in the away as those not clapping weren’t proper fans /
apparently

The idea that you have to be positive is bloody weird.

If we think the product is crap we should just say it so it can get better.

I'm convinced it could be March 2023, 19th in the league, and they'd still be clapping Dempster. "Show your support, be positive, be a true fan".
 

Chief Rocka

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2016
Messages
4,551
Reaction score
1,886
Points
113
Location
Hartlepool
Supports
Hartlepool
I said I didn't know what to expect,a win or a tonking,the latter was right.
I've seen some shyte over the years watching Pools & that performance was up there with the worst.
However,your press & workrate was very good ,played some nice stuff & your number 6 was outstanding.
Good job I had a bottle of gin for the journey home.

What was the general feeling amongst the fans there at the end? I can probably guess?
 

Kauto Star

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2019
Messages
618
Reaction score
307
Points
63
Location
Bradford
Supports
Bradford City
On the highlights Dean Ashton seemed to blame the ref more than anyone else for getting “involved “

Not the refs fault Tomlin kicked the ball away twice. Once he had booked him for the first one, Tomlin gave him no option. Its about the only thing the ref got right
 

Super_horns

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
9,210
Reaction score
974
Points
113
Supports
WATFORD
Not the refs fault Tomlin kicked the ball away twice. Once he had booked him for the first one, Tomlin gave him no option. Its about the only thing the ref got right

Yes thought it was a strange comment .

Almost saying Tomlin should have just been allowed to carry on !

Ref was a new guy from Scotland apparently.
 

RiftHouseLad

Active Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2021
Messages
781
Reaction score
112
Points
43
Supports
Hartlepool
Had a few hours to gather my senses after a bit of a rollercoaster of a game to come up with some reasonable thoughts about ourselves.

It's taken us two years to get going but this league is a fucking piece of piss.
County dishing out DREAMS yet again.
 

Conker

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
5,372
Reaction score
1,202
Points
113
Supports
Mansfield Town FC
Twitter
@CONKS__
What gets me was that in his interview afterwards he named a few players for having bad performances ,yet never once came close to accepting any blame ,in fact he said the system wasn,t a problem as we had been playing it for the last month ,not with those bloody players though lets hope we get at least another couple ,in at least though realistically we need three minimum

If only we had someone to ask him, Nigel why did you play five at the back but with only two defenders amongst them?

I understand he wants to go with this new formation because it gives us the chance to get two upfront, but it felt forced yesterday, I think if we played our tradition diamond the result may have been different.
 

LS Bantam

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2015
Messages
1,454
Reaction score
457
Points
83
Location
Bradford
Supports
Bradford City
Not the refs fault Tomlin kicked the ball away twice. Once he had booked him for the first one, Tomlin gave him no option. Its about the only thing the ref got right
Don’t forget Tomlin had already thrown himself to the ground once already when the ball went through to the keeper, that and getting himself sent off were the only things he did, it was borderline suspicious that he was trying to get himself sent off (more likely he’s just a bit thick).
 

BigDaveCUFC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
2,939
Reaction score
576
Points
113
Supports
Curzon Ashton....and Carlisle
Just watching the highlights and that Carlisle kit is not a Carlisle kit

The colour isn’t Carlisle to me, but I always give Carlisle credit for having the balls to do a really different home shirt most times they change.

Clubs who say ‘here is our new kit’ and find change is a slight collar change and badge position and then go £50 please.
 

BigDaveCUFC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
2,939
Reaction score
576
Points
113
Supports
Curzon Ashton....and Carlisle
Tomlin goes into the most stupidest sending off I have seen, almost does need investigating and bloody pundits who frankly blame referees for everything.

He kicks ball away, gets the standard yellow, then like some petulant 3 year old kicks it away right in front of red on purpose (should be red there just for the deliberate attitude)

Them embarrassingly dives like a baby again in front of ref, should have been straight red than another yellow for his shocking attitude.

But he will be defended no doubt
 
Last edited:

BigDaveCUFC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
2,939
Reaction score
576
Points
113
Supports
Curzon Ashton....and Carlisle
Checking highlights to it looked
Like Carlisle did very well, broke through Crawley lines numerous times and if they can work on that final run and final ball could well score a lot of goals……and this with the best attack player still not fully fit.

Possession means b*gger all of you do absolutely nothing with it, 25 chances and alot of them decent chances off limited possession is a good sign.

Expect Carlisle to be strong at
Home, away will determine alot.
 

Super_horns

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
9,210
Reaction score
974
Points
113
Supports
WATFORD
Tomlinson goes into the most stupidest sending off I have seen, almost does need investigating and bloody pundits who frankly blame referees for everything.

He kicks ball away, gets the standard yellow, then like some petulant 3 year old kicks it away right in front of red on purpose (should be red there just for the deliberate attitude)

Them embarrassingly dives like a baby again in front of ref, should have been straight red than another yellow for his shocking attitude.

But he will be defended no doubt
TBF the fans on here and elsewhere haven't.

Was just Dean Ashton - maybe a mate of Tomlin's or doesn't like refs who look like him with no hair!
 

WilsdenBantam

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 17, 2016
Messages
2,187
Reaction score
998
Points
113
Location
Bradford
Supports
Bradford City
TBF the fans on here and elsewhere haven't.

Was just Dean Ashton - maybe a mate of Tomlin's or doesn't like refs who look like him with no hair!
Saw them comments from Ashton, I suppose maybe he meant had the ref sent their last off for the leg break challenge then maybe the game would have had more discipline about it or something like that. That’s the only thing that makes sense unless he was just talking shit. Been at the game I’d say if it’s the former it is a fair comment, when the ref lets players get away with nonsense it can lead to these daft incidents. Looks like the refs in Scotland are just as shit as the players because I had high hopes and he was down there with Trevor Kettle and the rest of the useless twats, hope he doesn’t ref us again as all he succeeded with is winding the fans up.
 

Firthy_BCAFC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2015
Messages
3,008
Reaction score
616
Points
113
Supports
The Bantams
One of the very few positives from yesterday.

96DBD393-0031-414C-A878-B12AC1F82309.jpeg
 

Super_horns

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
9,210
Reaction score
974
Points
113
Supports
WATFORD
Saw them comments from Ashton, I suppose maybe he meant had the ref sent their last off for the leg break challenge then maybe the game would have had more discipline about it or something like that. That’s the only thing that makes sense unless he was just talking shit. Been at the game I’d say if it’s the former it is a fair comment, when the ref lets players get away with nonsense it can lead to these daft incidents. Looks like the refs in Scotland are just as shit as the players because I had high hopes and he was down there with Trevor Kettle and the rest of the useless twats, hope he doesn’t ref us again as all he succeeded with is winding the fans up.
Didn’t talk about the tackle at all .

Just said he didn’t need to get in involved and show another yellow card.

Almost as if he was suggesting that the ref trying to influence things too much rather than not stamping down on events as you say he doing in letting a lot go .
 

Stocky

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2015
Messages
1,567
Reaction score
875
Points
113
Supports
Stockport County.
Barrow's three finishes in the first half were all superb. If League Two teams are all that clincal, we are in trouble.

The goals rocked us, I suspect teams don't score with every shot usually, so hopefully we'll be alright.

Reality check for everyone.
 

CTFC - Devils

New Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2020
Messages
19
Reaction score
7
Points
3
Supports
Crawley town
Barrow's three finishes in the first half were all superb. If League Two teams are all that clincal, we are in trouble.

The goals rocked us, I suspect teams don't score with every shot usually, so hopefully we'll be alright.

Reality check for everyone.
Just seen the highlights posted above, great goals, definitely not like that most weeks.
 

chipmunx

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 4, 2015
Messages
5,982
Reaction score
1,308
Points
113
Location
United Kingdom
Supports
Barrow AFC
Barrow's three finishes in the first half were all superb. If League Two teams are all that clincal, we are in trouble.

The goals rocked us, I suspect teams don't score with every shot usually, so hopefully we'll be alright.

Reality check for everyone.
The main difference between the NL and EFL2 is that half chances get taken more and mistakes** get punished a lot more often in the EFL. Also there tends to be more players with pace in the teams.
We had Warren a right back playing at left back and a 20 yr old loanee from Chelsea;- Sam McClelland who is a centre back playing at right back and making his senior league debut* so we had a bit of a makeshift defence out yesterday too.

*He had already played for Northern Ireland senior team though
** for the 3rd goal it took 7 seconds from intercepting the ball on the half way line to the ball being in the back of the net - that's the difference between the NL and EFL.
 
Last edited:

DearneValleyRover

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2015
Messages
3,421
Reaction score
902
Points
113
Location
Dearne Valley
Supports
Doncaster Rovers, Sporting Leyland
Don’t forget Tomlin had already thrown himself to the ground once already when the ball went through to the keeper, that and getting himself sent off were the only things he did, it was borderline suspicious that he was trying to get himself sent off (more likely he’s just a bit thick).
The general feeling in hospitality was he wanted to get sent off because he thought Ravenhill should have been, personally I agree with you that he seems a bit thick
 

DearneValleyRover

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2015
Messages
3,421
Reaction score
902
Points
113
Location
Dearne Valley
Supports
Doncaster Rovers, Sporting Leyland
Tomlin goes into the most stupidest sending off I have seen, almost does need investigating and bloody pundits who frankly blame referees for everything.

He kicks ball away, gets the standard yellow, then like some petulant 3 year old kicks it away right in front of red on purpose (should be red there just for the deliberate attitude)

Them embarrassingly dives like a baby again in front of ref, should have been straight red than another yellow for his shocking attitude.

But he will be defended no doubt
Tomlin certainly isn’t being defended by our fans, all pretty disgusted with him
 

Soup Ladle

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2015
Messages
4,090
Reaction score
2,194
Points
113
Supports
Hartlepool
Barrow's three finishes in the first half were all superb. If League Two teams are all that clincal, we are in trouble.

The goals rocked us, I suspect teams don't score with every shot usually, so hopefully we'll be alright.

Reality check for everyone.
It's a lot more clinical throughout the league, you have to be on it every week. Some weeks you'll get lucky but if you consistently give up errors and half chances you won't amount to much at this level.

Teams are fitter, stronger, press much better than down there. You will be fine but might take time to adapt.
 

Conker

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
5,372
Reaction score
1,202
Points
113
Supports
Mansfield Town FC
Twitter
@CONKS__
Salford scored with every shot in the first half to be fair.
 

Soup Ladle

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2015
Messages
4,090
Reaction score
2,194
Points
113
Supports
Hartlepool
What was the general feeling amongst the fans there at the end? I can probably guess?
Mate of mine was there, fuming over the display and was unhappy Hartley didn't come over at the end. To be honest he should be cut some slack, I bet he was about tear the dressing room down. Think next week he might be told to give the fans an ovation.
 

Chief Rocka

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2016
Messages
4,551
Reaction score
1,886
Points
113
Location
Hartlepool
Supports
Hartlepool
Mate of mine was there, fuming over the display and was unhappy Hartley didn't come over at the end. To be honest he should be cut some slack, I bet he was about tear the dressing room down. Think next week he might be told to give the fans an ovation.

Yeah I saw a few people complain about that, I'd imagine he was seething, or certainly hope he was.
 

Bone Idle

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2019
Messages
618
Reaction score
281
Points
63
Location
Llandogo
Supports
Newport County
Decent point for us at sutton!! they have lost their better players from last season and replaced them with big one dimentional monsters who will bully a lot of teams into submission, thankfully we were big enough and ugly enough to withstand their tactics and really should have won the game at the end, some good performances from our boy's especially Zanzala Evans and Drysdale, but overall a draw was a fair result.
 

RiftHouseLad

Active Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2021
Messages
781
Reaction score
112
Points
43
Supports
Hartlepool
Barrow's three finishes in the first half were all superb. If League Two teams are all that clincal, we are in trouble.

The goals rocked us, I suspect teams don't score with every shot usually, so hopefully we'll be alright.

Reality check for everyone.
Watch the highlights from all games yesterday and you will see the standard.
Ours was a combination of that and shite defending.

But it was pointed out many times before a ball was kicked.
Some of your lot thought there was little if any differance with the NatLge.

Takes time to settle, You,ll get there.
 

Kauto Star

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2019
Messages
618
Reaction score
307
Points
63
Location
Bradford
Supports
Bradford City
Tomlin certainly isn’t being defended by our fans, all pretty disgusted with him

That's good to hear. Not the best way for a new signing to endear himself to the fans was it.

To be honest, surprised you took a punt on him in the first place anyhow.

Your 2 centre backs were very impressive on the day.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
16,018
Messages
1,101,424
Members
6,792
Latest member
Abol987

Latest posts

Top