The Coalition of Expensive Chaos

[Alty]

And is getting even more of a roasting on the EU. Marr back on his game these days.

 

[mowgli]

And is getting even more of a roasting on the EU. Marr back on his game these days.

Gideon squirming a bit on Marr on the topic of saving money by giving disabled people less.

That was enjoyable to watch the bullshitter squirm under Marr's questioning.

 

[silkyman]

Gideon squirming a bit on Marr on the topic of saving money by giving disabled people less.

Don't forget the 'so they can give middle class people more' bit...

 

[silkyman]

More filibustering.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mps-talk-long-derail-7539627#ICID=sharebar_twitter

 

[mowgli]

Don't forget the 'so they can give middle class people more Tory so they don't give a toss what damage they do to those people's lives. Not being content with the amount of people who have committed suicide after "Health assessments" they would be perfectly happy to see the number rise to save money.

 

[Alty]

More filibustering.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mps-talk-long-derail-7539627#ICID=sharebar_twitter

There are some fucking bizarre and outdated practices in Parliament, but this filibustering only applies to Private Members Bills that would never become law anyway.

Yes it seems a bit childish, but in reality the impact is nil.

 

[SUTSS]

There are some fucking bizarre and outdated practices in Parliament, but this filibustering only applies to Private Members Bills that would never become law anyway.

Yes it seems a bit childish, but in reality the impact is nil.

That surely just makes it even more ridiculous as all they achieve is making themselves look bad.

 

[Son of Cod]

I'm with Stagat on this. East Asia has got Europe on the ropes with regards to their hyper convenient shopping hours. If I want a beer at 3am on a Wednesday and my fridge is empty, I'm there and back and merrily quaffing it in my apartment in 5 minutes and I've had a choice of two places to get it from. It's brilliant. Restaurants open around the clock, too. Not just for pissheads, but to accommodate the demand.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

How much of that is a failing of Europe and not just the UK though? Everything here shuts really early compared to most of Europe too.

 

[silkyman]

There are some fucking bizarre and outdated practices in Parliament, but this filibustering only applies to Private Members Bills that would never become law anyway.

Yes it seems a bit childish, but in reality the impact is nil.

It shows them up to be the bully boy stains that they are. The message is clear. 'We won the election so you can all fuck off.'

They rarely make it into legislation, but give MPs a platform. Caroline Lucas wanted to highlight the creeping privatisation of the NHS at a parliamentary level, but was denied the opportunity by these wankers.

If you don't agree with it, debate it. Don't shut it down with a loophole because you're worried what might happen if it got more publicity. Using a technicality to prevent elected MPs having a chance of due process is simply undemocratic.

 

[silkyman]

I'm with Stagat on this. East Asia has got Europe on the ropes with regards to their hyper convenient shopping hours. If I want a beer at 3am on a Wednesday and my fridge is empty, I'm there and back and merrily quaffing it in my apartment in 5 minutes and I've had a choice of two places to get it from. It's brilliant. Restaurants open around the clock, too. Not just for pissheads, but to accommodate the demand.

Do you live in a big city? You can do that in London or Manchester too. Macc Tesco is 24 hour. But I don't expect my local village shop to be 24/7.

 

[Son of Cod]

How much of that is a failing of Europe and not just the UK though? Everything here shuts really early compared to most of Europe too.

Yeah that's a fair point, places are open later in the rest of Europe in my experience actually. However, I have mainly been to big cities and touristy places.

Do you live in a big city? You can do that in London or Manchester too. Macc Tesco is 24 hour. But I don't expect my local village shop to be 24/7.

Not a big city, a small satellite city of Seoul. The independent shops close around 10pm~1am, but the chain convenience stores are all 24 hours up and down the entire country in almost every single little town and quiet neighbourhood. The 5 minute example I gave earlier was for 2 small convenience stores in my small neighbourhood, not a busy area in terms of nightlife but a residential area. Public holidays included, I think I have seen convenience stores closed maybe 4 or 5 times in 4 years of living here. Restaurants close at around midnight at the earliest, with many open until 4~5am and a fair few open 24 hours too depending where you are. Bars and pubs will quite often stay open until people stop drinking too. Was the same in Japan (Osaka/Kyoto) and Hong Kong when I visited there too.

 

[Pyeman]

Do we have the demand for those types of opening hours in this country?

 

[Abertawe]

Yeah. I hate being wrecked at 4 in the morning and not being able to purchase supplies.

 

[Pyeman]

I can see why that would be frustrating.

 

[Destruction]

How much of that is a failing of Europe and not just the UK though? Everything here shuts really early compared to most of Europe too.

Yeah but it gets cold here by 7pm even in the summer.

 

[Stevencc]

I don't usually post in this section but I feel compelled to after watching the budget being laid out by Osborne while Theresa May sits behind him, half asleep, with her breasts hanging out.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

 

[silkyman]

All schools forced to be academies?

Fuck off Gideon.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Why is that bad?

 

[GodsGift]

I knew you'd be a Guido Fawkes fan.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

im a type stuff into twitter and lift the first pic you see fan

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

Other than boobs, what are the highlights? I presume I'll be getting a tax cut whilst poor people suffer?

 

[silkyman]

Not poor. Just disabled.

 

[mowgli]

Not poor. Just disabled.

That's me fucked then! Perhaps i should join the over 3,000 people who have committed suicide after being found fit to work even though they are clearly not on this governments watch since 2010, at least i'll know i'm saving the tories money,what have the sick and disabled done to be treated so appallingly by Osbourne and Duncan-Smith? If this had happened in another country Osbourne and Cameron would be throwing money at the problem and shouting how unfair it was but then think fuck our own people as sick and disabled will not vote for us anyway so why should we give a shit about them?

 

[silkyman]

Why is that bad?

http://www.theguardian.com/educatio...y-chains-producing-above-average-gsce-results

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35531827

http://www.theforester.co.uk/articl...mmunity School&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2016

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35347602

They seem brilliant. Can't wait to have no choice other than to send my daughter to one.

 

[smat]

Why is that bad?

No accountability, as the people fucking up local schools can no longer be voted out. Ending the national curriculum (dunno if that's good or bad tbh) and removing pay scales for schools (meaning teachers' wages are likely to stagnate, and god knows it's a shit enough job at the moment as it is). Those are some negatives, anyway. Suppose the real question is, are they better at educating children? And the answer, I'm afraid, is idk. Someone else?

 

[silkyman]

That's me fucked then! Perhaps i should join the over 3,000 people who have committed suicide after being found fit to work even though they are clearly not on this governments watch since 2010, at least i'll know i'm saving the tories money,what have the sick and disabled done to be treated so appallingly by Osbourne and Duncan-Smith? If this had happened in another country Osbourne and Cameron would be throwing money at the problem and shouting how unfair it was but then think fuck our own people as sick and disabled will not vote for us anyway so why should we give a shit about them?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't factor in savings associated with people 'not being around to claim anymore' as a result of the cuts, when they justify it to themselves financially.

 

[Alty]

Why is that bad?

Business-run schools strikes me as worrying. I know someone whose daughter's primary school is an academy. Her class has had 4 different form teachers this academic year already. The company that runs the school justifies this by saying it has an obligation to send its best teachers to other underperforming schools under its control to improve them. Instead of driving standards up it seems to encourage mediocrity.

I get the idea that schools and teachers should be given freedom. But there are better ways of doing it. In Finland teachers undertake 5 years of specialist training and it's a profession as highly respected as any other. Which gives the public the confidence to allow teachers more flexibility in how they teach and to go without the constant testing.

Our education policies seem a bit of a weird mixed bag. And it depresses me that whenever reform of anything is deemed necessary, private companies are always the 'go to' people.

 

[silkyman]

No accountability, as the people fucking up local schools can no longer be voted out. Ending the national curriculum (dunno if that's good or bad tbh) and removing pay scales for schools (meaning teachers' wages are likely to stagnate, and god knows it's a shit enough job at the moment as it is). Those are some negatives, anyway. Suppose the real question is, are they better at educating children? And the answer, I'm afraid, is idk. Someone else?

They don't seem to be any better at it going off the links I found. No national curriculum gives more freedom for schools to teach creationism and the like. No nationally recognised curriculum will make it very hard to monitor progress (How are ofsted meant to tell how well the school is doing if the kids at one school have to know different stuff to other schools?)

And all run by unaccountable corporate offices with no local governance.

Brill.