Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2023/24

[JJH]

In my opinion he would be an upgrade on Flint.

I said wages aside it would be a backwards move or at the very least a sideways one. If he goes it will be because of the money as you no doubt pay a lot more than us and you can't blame him for that.

Whether you like it or not we are a better team than you at the minute as was proven last season and bar the first 6 games of this season we're proving again this.

The reason clubs like Derby and Sheffield Wed aren't after him is because they're big clubs and can attract better, your lot have proven over the last couple of windows that despite thinking you can play billy big bollocks in this league you can't because your just an average championship side like the majority of us.

Yes, at this current moment in time I'm not disputing it's a sideways move, vut to suggest it's a backwards move because you're a few points ahead of us is lunacy.

The reason we haven't been able to attract the big players is because of the wages, nowt else. Brighton aren't a big club, neither are Bournemouth, Stoke etc, but players don't give a fuck what a club achieved back in the 1920s, they want income and to be playing at the highest level the possibly can IMO.

In all honesty, if you weren't a Preston fan and you were given the situation that I believe Wright finds himself in, you'd jump ship as well.

 

[mossypne]

He's only jumping ship because of the money. In terms of what you can offer money wise etc. it's a step forward. But a step forward in his career? Nah, far from it.

 

[JJH]

Nope, as I just said it's currently a sideways move but one that you couldn't blame him for making, if he even does. We shall see.

 

[LeylandWhite]

Even as a Preston fan I'd jump ship for them kind of wages, who wouldn't and like I said you can't blame him for that.

If you weren't a Bristol City fan though you would admit that you have a slightly inflated opinion of your club and where they're heading.

 

[JJH]

Even as a Preston fan I'd jump ship for them kind of wages, who wouldn't and like I said you can't blame him for that.

If you weren't a Bristol City fan though you would admit that you have a slightly inflated opinion of your club and where they're heading.

Not really, I just think there's more potential for growth here.

We spent £13m or so in the summer, Wednesday and Brighton only spent similar amounts last summer and they turned themselves into top six sides from previously finishing in the bottom half.

Fine margins in this league, a few fine tweaks from being a side that can compete at the top end but in the last few weeks those vulnerable areas have been massively highlighted.

 

[MagpieBee]

Not really, I just think there's more potential for growth here.

We spent £13m or so in the summer, Wednesday and Brighton only spent similar amounts last summer and they turned themselves into top six sides from previously finishing in the bottom half.

Fine margins in this league, a few fine tweaks from being a side that can compete at the top end but in the last few weeks those vulnerable areas have been massively highlighted.

I wouldn't call spending £13m fine margins...

Arguably Bournemouth were buying similar calibre players when they were down here, never threw out more than £3m for a player, and mostly from leagues below, they just did a much better job with the players they bought.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

I wouldn't call spending £13m fine margins...

Arguably Bournemouth were buying similar calibre players when they were down here, never threw out more than £3m for a player, and mostly from leagues below, they just did a much better job with the players they bought.

They also had Brett Pitman

 

[JJH]

I wouldn't call spending £13m fine margins...

Arguably Bournemouth were buying similar calibre players when they were down here, never threw out more than £3m for a player, and mostly from leagues below, they just did a much better job with the players they bought.

I didn't say £13m was fine margins, I meant the areas we're lacking in and the couple of good signings we are away from being half decent.

They also had Brett Pitman

Wish we still had Brett Pitman

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

if it was the Pitman at Bournemouth yes the one at City no

 

[LeylandWhite]

Not really, I just think there's more potential for growth here.

We spent £13m or so in the summer, Wednesday and Brighton only spent similar amounts last summer and they turned themselves into top six sides from previously finishing in the bottom half.

Fine margins in this league, a few fine tweaks from being a side that can compete at the top end but in the last few weeks those vulnerable areas have been massively highlighted.

Grayson has been here 4 years now and we've improved every season under him in that time and with a few little tweaks to our squad we could compete reguarly for a top 6 spot too. It wouldn't suprise me if we were quite high in the form table if you took into account games after the first 6 weeks or so when we were crap.

We've already shown we can get results against the top teams in this league and with a little more composure in front of goal or Beckford staying fit we'd certainly be higher than we are now.

Success can be achieved in this league with hardwork, a bit of organisation and a good team spirit, it's not all about spending money as has been shown many times so not convinced you keeping on chucking money at it will work but we'll see I suppose.

 

[JJH]

Grayson has been here 4 years now and we've improved every season under him in that time and with a few little tweaks to our squad we could compete reguarly for a top 6 spot too. It wouldn't suprise me if we were quite high in the form table if you took into account games after the first 6 weeks or so when we were crap.

We've already shown we can get results against the top teams in this league and with a little more composure in front of goal or Beckford staying fit we'd certainly be higher than we are now.

Success can be achieved in this league with hardwork, a bit of organisation and a good team spirit, it's not all about spending money as has been shown many times so not convinced you keeping on chucking money at it will work but we'll see I suppose.

And to think that every time you go through a bad run you still get a lot of your fans calling for his head. Ridiculous.

Anyway, we've progressed every year in the last four years as well, so something's clearly working somewhere for us.

 

[LeylandWhite]

I didn't say £13m was fine margins, I meant the areas we're lacking in and the couple of good signings we are away from being half decent.

Most teams in this are a couple of good signings away from being half decent.

 

[Madejski]

I think the fact that Reading and Huddersfield are currently 3rd and 4th it shows that you can go far in this league without money. Right management/personnel/recruitment goes so far. Probably not enough for promotion, but to go from comfortable bottom half to comfortable top half without spending too much is definitely possible. Gives a solid base to build from, where you are then only one or two key signings away.

 

[LeylandWhite]

And to think that every time you go through a bad run you still get a lot of your fans calling for his head. Ridiculous.

Anyway, we've progressed every year in the last four years as well, so something's clearly working somewhere for us.

That's football, I bet you had a fair few fans calling Lee Johnson the messiah after your start who now want him sacked.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

I want it on record that I wanted him sacked before he was given the job

 

[JJH]

Most teams in this are a couple of good signings away from being half decent.

Precisely, and having the money to go out and get those players is a massive hand over other clubs who don't.

That's football, I bet you had a fair few fans calling Lee Johnson the messiah after your start who now want him sacked.

Yes, idiots. That's who.

 

[Luke_1884]

I think the fact that Reading and Huddersfield are currently 3rd and 4th it shows that you can go far in this league without money. Right management/personnel/recruitment goes so far. Probably not enough for promotion, but to go from comfortable bottom half to comfortable top half without spending too much is definitely possible. Gives a solid base to build from, where you are then only one or two key signings away.

I don't think the recruitment is necessary to make that improvement you're describing IMO, purely the manager. I think we could all see the signs Huddersfield were giving off at the back end of last year under Wagner. Looking at Readings team there's players there who have been stuck in an average gear for a few seasons now but Stam seems to be getting something out of them now.

We were in the same position you and Huddersfield find yourselves now around 3 years ago but after about ten 'key signings' we're no closer! Football's a funny game.

 

[MagpieBee]

I think the fact that Reading and Huddersfield are currently 3rd and 4th it shows that you can go far in this league without money. Right management/personnel/recruitment goes so far. Probably not enough for promotion, but to go from comfortable bottom half to comfortable top half without spending too much is definitely possible. Gives a solid base to build from, where you are then only one or two key signings away.

To be fair, you guys did spend quite a lot in the summer, especially in wages.

However, in your case, it seems to have been spent very well, and Stam has also got you organised. Up there decidedly on merit

 

[Madejski]

To be fair, you guys did spend quite a lot in the summer, especially in wages.

However, in your case, it seems to have been spent very well, and Stam has also got you organised. Up there decidedly on merit

Hard to say without delving into the accounts, but i'm sure even if we spent a lot on wages, it will be a large cut back from 2015/16, yet we're achieving better results.

John Swift, who you are probably alluding to seeing as we supposedly outbid you on wages, will be half of what Hal Robson-Kanu was on, and probably less than Oliver Norwood was on who he was directly replacing. Up and down the team i'm confident almost man for man the replacements will be cheaper versions but due to the correct recruitment, management and tactics they are performing to a higher level.

Our signings were generally young players still yet to come into their prime and unwanted by their old club (Swift, Blackett, Meite, Harriott) or foreign players coming to the end of their contracts (van den Berg, Beerens, Jaakola) where they are less likely be able to demand big expenses. We weren't buying the ready-made players that clubs like Derby, Brighton, Aston Villa have done.

I'm sure its a similar story at Huddersfield.

 

[JJH]

I think the fact that Reading and Huddersfield are currently 3rd and 4th it shows that you can go far in this league without money. Right management/personnel/recruitment goes so far. Probably not enough for promotion, but to go from comfortable bottom half to comfortable top half without spending too much is definitely possible. Gives a solid base to build from, where you are then only one or two key signings away.

Hard to say without delving into the accounts, but i'm sure even if we spent a lot on wages, it will be a large cut back from 2015/16, yet we're achieving better results.

John Swift, who you are probably alluding to seeing as we supposedly outbid you on wages, will be half of what Hal Robson-Kanu was on, and probably less than Oliver Norwood was on who he was directly replacing. Up and down the team i'm confident almost man for man the replacements will be cheaper versions but due to the correct recruitment, management and tactics they are performing to a higher level.

Our signings were generally young players still yet to come into their prime and unwanted by their old club (Swift, Blackett, Meite, Harriott) or foreign players coming to the end of their contracts (van den Berg, Beerens, Jaakola) where they are less likely be able to demand big expenses. We weren't buying the ready-made players that clubs like Derby, Brighton, Aston Villa have done.

I'm sure its a similar story at Huddersfield.

Do you miss Norwood at all? Seems Evans is doing what he was doing at Walsall for you but Norwood's played really well for Brighton when required.

 

[MagpieBee]

Hard to say without delving into the accounts, but i'm sure even if we spent a lot on wages, it will be a large cut back from 2015/16, yet we're achieving better results.

John Swift, who you are probably alluding to seeing as we supposedly outbid you on wages, will be half of what Hal Robson-Kanu was on, and probably less than Oliver Norwood was on who he was directly replacing. Up and down the team i'm confident almost man for man the replacements will be cheaper versions but due to the correct recruitment, management and tactics they are performing to a higher level.

Our signings were generally young players still yet to come into their prime and unwanted by their old club (Swift, Blackett, Meite, Harriott) or foreign players coming to the end of their contracts (van den Berg, Beerens, Jaakola) where they are less likely be able to demand big expenses. We weren't buying the ready-made players that clubs like Derby, Brighton, Aston Villa have done.

I'm sure its a similar story at Huddersfield.

There's a lot of truth in that, but Blackett, Moore and Beerens will all still have commanded big wages.

Not saying at all you guys have overspent, you've spent way less than most, just saying that there's a way to invest money into the team and do it well, and you guys seem to be doing that.

Our budgets are tiny compared to every team, but I feel when we invest we do it well (though we had a few guff signings last year)


On a seperate note, loads of Hogan rumours flying around, Villa, Reading, Norwich, Derby, West Brom, Burnley, among others all supposedly interested.

If we get less than Bristol got for Kodija I'd be amazed. Hogan is so much more consistent, and his finishing is second to none in this league. Would guess it would be about £13m including add ons.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Why we would want ANOTHER striker is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, Hogan's a damn good player, but we already have Kodjia, Agbonlahor, Ayew, Gestede, Kozak and McCormack who can play up front, and we generally play with one up top! It's creating chances that is our problem, not so much finishing.

 

[hodge]

If we get less than Bristol got for Kodija I'd be amazed. Hogan is so much more consistent, and his finishing is second to none in this league. Would guess it would be about £13m including add ons.

So less than we got for Kodjia, prepare to be amazed

 

[JaseTheVillain]

So less than we got for Kodjia, prepare to be amazed

Well you've only got £10million for him so far...

 

[JJH]

Well you've only got £10million for him so far...

Given the upfront fee was £11m solely I dunno how you've worked that one out.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

I do apologise. £11million then.

 

[JJH]

I do apologise. £11million then.

You're kidding yourself if you believe the £4m add-on is just based on you getting promotion mate. Can tell you for a fact it isn't.

 

[Madejski]

Do you miss Norwood at all? Seems Evans is doing what he was doing at Walsall for you but Norwood's played really well for Brighton when required.

Hard to say, good player who didn't fit in with our tactics the last couple of seasons, but would be more suited this year. He slowed the game down a lot but we now play the slower possession style anyway. Swift is clearly an upgrade and our new creative player/set piece taker which was Norwood's role. Evans does the deeper role as well as Norwood too, with the option of playing at CB if desperate. Maybe we miss his experience? - our midfield is very inexperienced with Swift, Evans and Kelly all 21 and younger.

Another CM in January wouldn't go amiss, and we have been linked with Jordon Mutch. Would love Tshibola back from Villa as he doesn't seem to be getting time there and would be an upgrade on Williams. A fit Tshibola is far superior to a fit Norwood.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

You're kidding yourself if you believe the £4m add-on is just based on you getting promotion mate. Can tell you for a fact it isn't.

Why? You on the board?

 

[KevinMcallister]

ashley fletcher linked again