Big Sam - New England Manager

[SUTSS]

Chucking a few thoughts into the thought hat

Sean Dyche - Worked miracles at Burnley, has a clear way of playing. Classic English 442 with big man little man, teams are always committed and can motivate a bunch of players
Eddie Howe - A more modern manager rather than the classic blood and thunder kick and rush, clearly a very talented manager but I don't know whether he would leave, he is very much in his comfort zone at Bournemouth
Nigel Pearson - Can get his team up for a fight and think he would get a great team spirit going, think he's the sort that would relish the criticism that comes with England manager and use it as motivation a us against the world sort of way
Alan Pardew - Probably the most obvious choice if you are going English, not a bad manager but I'm not a massive fan. Would barely be able to fit out the door with the size of his head
Chris Hughton - A manager I have always rated, done a good job at every club he has been at imo. Badly treated at Norwich
Tim Sherwood - Not much experience but don't think you can judge him on his spell at Villa as that was a club in crisis. Gives youth a good chance (would have gave Rashford and Barkley a proper chance at this tournament) straight talking and strong enough to not let the media get to him. Would take no bs from the FA
Mark Warburton - Done an incredible job at Brentford, don't follow Scottish football but from a distance looks like he has continued his good work at Rangers

Some non english options
Rafa Benitez - Could surely be tempted away from championship Newcastle and has a reputation as one of the best managers in world football
Arsene Wenger - His time at Arsenal is surely coming to an end, at his age a part time gig with England may suit him. Has a philosophy which would go down well but over the last 10 years has struggled to win trophies which is what it is all about
Manuel Pellegrini - Similar in many ways to his management style as Wenger, right age for an international manager and available
Roberto Martinez - One of the most overrated managers imo, don't want him but got a horrible feeling he may be in the frame.

Some other names just to throw out there
Southgate to make the step up from U21s, Big Sam, Louis Van Gaal, Steve Bruce, Laurent Blanc just left PSG, Slaven Bilic, Glenn Hoddle, Harry Redknapp, Frank De Boer, Guus Hiddink

Not saying I want these, tried to avoid unrealistic names and I realise some people may think the names I have mentioned are nonsense but just trying to stir up some thoughts and debate.

Like fuck he was. Kept in the job way too long once things were going badly wrong. Sacked at a ridicolous time sure but should've gone 6 months before that.

 

[Super_horns]

Ray Wilkins has mentioned Vialli!

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/06/2...rprise-backing-to-former-chelsea-and-watford/

Must be after a job...

 

[Benji]

Jurgen Klinsmann, not particularly popular in the USA but he has done well there.

 

[PDS]

Jurgen Klinsmann, not particularly popular in the USA but he has done well there.

This. I would love Klinsmann in charge for the next 4-6 years; let him build a team, an identity and a tactical plan as he did with Germany and the USA. He's a proven international manager and someone who would be in it for the long haul, rather than another 60+ year old looking for a payday.

After that we can look at Eddie Howe who in my extremely biased opinion is an England manager of the future in waiting.

 

[Pagnell]

It's an important time for the FA, and this sends a big message out as to the future of the England team. If they end up appointing a yes-man, managerial no mark like Southgate, the message will be loud and clear and the short to medium term future of the national team will down the toilet. At best we'll have a repeat of the last four years. At worst we'll have a repeat of 2008 and won't qualify for Russia. My interest in England, never that great in the first place, will literally be zero.

So, FA, have some bollocks and appoint someone a bit different. I'm not a fan of the likes of Allardyce and Pardew (the latter especially), but at least it would shake things up a bit. I'm not even averse to the appointment of another foreigner, as long as it will result in a bit of freshness. Klinsmann? Perhaps. How about Hiddink? International experience and a far better manager than any of the current crop being talking about.

Hodgson's appointment was shit from day one, he was only chosen because he was the only feasible English option at the time other than 'Arry, who the FA were out to prove a point against. It was never going to be more than a mediocre time for the national team, and it's turned out to be even worse than that.

The worst thing right now is that there is no obvious, standout candidate.

 

[Big Bird]

 

[Pagnell]

You're probably not being serious but even he'd be better than half the blokes being bandied around at the moment, Southgate especially. But his chance was back in 2012. If it didn't happen then, it never will. He said as much himself yesterday.

 

[PDS]

Standard joke that if we appoint Wenger at least we'd finish fourth etc.

 

[Skinner]

I reckon Redknapp would be decent at international management, dunno why though

 

[lordofthepies]

Jurgen Klinsmann, not particularly popular in the USA but he has done well there.

Has he though? They don't really seem to be any better than before he took the job.

 

[The Unbeliever]

Please please not Wenger, we need a pragmatist not a bloody idealist.

 

[The Unbeliever]

I reckon Redknapp would be decent at international management, dunno why though

Wow another intelligent remark

 

[Skinner]

Wow another intelligent remark

?

 

[hodge]

Pelligrini or Hiddink for me personally and not just because I stuck money on them both...

 

[Murphy]

?

Wow, intelligent response.

 

[Hamez]

What's the fasination with Klinsmann? Did well at a WC with Germany (the host nation), and has been pretty average with the USA (they've lost to Guatemala & Jamaica within the past year). He's never done anything else where either. Would be a poor appointment.

 

[Big Bird]

You're probably not being serious but even he'd be better than half the blokes being bandied around at the moment, Southgate especially. But his chance was back in 2012. If it didn't happen then, it never will. He said as much himself yesterday.

Semi-serious. Wanted him instead of Roy and initial reaction was 'we've gone for the soft touch' when Hodgson was appointed. We'd certainly have played with more fire in the belly if Harry was appointed although I agree that his chance has now gone.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Manuel Pelligrini for me. Have a horrible feeling it will be Southgate though..

 

[SMH]

If Southgate is appointed on an interim or permanent basis then I wouldn't be surprised if the next game at Wembley against Malta is the lowest attended for an England match, worse than the 40k who went to the Norway friendly after the 2014 World Cup.

To be honest if we went foreign I'd be happy with a number of names, Bilic, Ranieri, Pochettino or Wenger (again whether any of them would take the job is another matter). I also wouldn't mind Rafa Benitez simply to see all the Newcastle fans spontaneously combust.

 

[Pagnell]

Benitez is a terrible man manager, his attitude is basically do as you're told or fuck off. He's also incapable of taking responsibility when things go wrong. In short, he wouldn't be suitable given the lack of time the team spends together as a unit, and especially given the amount of arrogant prima donnas the England team contains.

 

[SamScfc]

Chucking a few thoughts into the thought hat

Sean Dyche - Worked miracles at Burnley, has a clear way of playing. Classic English 442 with big man little man, teams are always committed and can motivate a bunch of players
Eddie Howe - A more modern manager rather than the classic blood and thunder kick and rush, clearly a very talented manager but I don't know whether he would leave, he is very much in his comfort zone at Bournemouth
Nigel Pearson - Can get his team up for a fight and think he would get a great team spirit going, think he's the sort that would relish the criticism that comes with England manager and use it as motivation a us against the world sort of way
Alan Pardew - Probably the most obvious choice if you are going English, not a bad manager but I'm not a massive fan. Would barely be able to fit out the door with the size of his head
Chris Hughton - A manager I have always rated, done a good job at every club he has been at imo. Badly treated at Norwich
Tim Sherwood - Not much experience but don't think you can judge him on his spell at Villa as that was a club in crisis. Gives youth a good chance (would have gave Rashford and Barkley a proper chance at this tournament) straight talking and strong enough to not let the media get to him. Would take no bs from the FA
Mark Warburton - Done an incredible job at Brentford, don't follow Scottish football but from a distance looks like he has continued his good work at Rangers

Some non english options
Rafa Benitez - Could surely be tempted away from championship Newcastle and has a reputation as one of the best managers in world football
Arsene Wenger - His time at Arsenal is surely coming to an end, at his age a part time gig with England may suit him. Has a philosophy which would go down well but over the last 10 years has struggled to win trophies which is what it is all about
Manuel Pellegrini - Similar in many ways to his management style as Wenger, right age for an international manager and available
Roberto Martinez - One of the most overrated managers imo, don't want him but got a horrible feeling he may be in the frame.

Some other names just to throw out there
Southgate to make the step up from U21s, Big Sam, Louis Van Gaal, Steve Bruce, Laurent Blanc just left PSG, Slaven Bilic, Glenn Hoddle, Harry Redknapp, Frank De Boer, Guus Hiddink

Not saying I want these, tried to avoid unrealistic names and I realise some people may think the names I have mentioned are nonsense but just trying to stir up some thoughts and debate.

Mark Warburton is a brilliant shout.

 

[SamScfc]

No they didn't, they appointed someone who'd been wildly successful as manager of Mainz.

Same thing.

 

[The Unbeliever]

I'm getting a bit disillusioned with all the negative talk on this site about English players. We have better players to choose from than all but three other teams in Euro 2016, what we didn't have was a manager and coaching staff that could mould them into a cohesive, committed and confident team.
Teams win things not individual players, the next manager needs to be a team builder, the only English candidate for me at the moment is Big Sam, the football might not be attractive but neither was Leicester's.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Manuel Pelligrini for me. Have a horrible feeling it will be Southgate though..

Man City were a disaster in cup competitions under him.

Klinsmann for me now he's half thrown him name in the hat.

 

[hodge]

Man City were a disaster in cup competitions under him.

Klinsmann for me now he's half thrown him name in the hat.

When you juggle league and cup, the cups often get sacrificed regardless how good your squad is. Also he won the league cup 2/3 seasons didn't he? Champions league, first year knocked out in 1/4 finals by Bayern Munich, then round of 16 by Barcelona and last season semi finals by Madrid, two out of the three competitions they've been knocked out by the club whose gone on to win it.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Man City were a disaster in cup competitions under him.

Klinsmann for me now he's half thrown him name in the hat.

He won 2 League cups?! Yes I know its only the league cup but still

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

League cup

You can't excuse Pellegrini for going out to better sides. Aside from this season where they did well to beat PSG (still lost twice to Juve in the group stages) they were a disaster.

With the resources he had (£320m spent) he should've been competing with the top sides in Europe, not getting brushed aside by them every season. How would he fare with England if we came up against a Germany/France/Spain/Italy if he couldn't beat the the equivalent sides at club level? Fail miserably would be my guess.

And come on, after Raheem Sterling's terrible season and Euro's, are we really going to trust the man who spent £45m on him?

 

[hodge]

You said his cup record was poor and then give a facepalm reaction for him winning 2 in 3 years, not many managers do that. They went out 3-1 over 2 legs to Barca, 4-2 against Munich and 1-0 against Madrid, hardly getting destroyed by them even if they did get eliminated. Is he the one who controls how much fees are worth at Man City, or does he tell someone he wanted Sterling and they organised the deal?

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

You said his cup record was poor and then give a facepalm reaction for him winning 2 in 3 years, not many managers do that. They went out 3-1 over 2 legs to Barca, 4-2 against Munich and 1-0 against Madrid, hardly getting destroyed by them even if they did get eliminated. Is he the one who controls how much fees are worth at Man City, or does he tell someone he wanted Sterling and they organised the deal?

League cups hodge. Don't pretend it's noteworthy.

 

[hodge]

FA cup is hardly anymore noteworthy these days so you may as write off all domestic cups then.