Match Day Bournemouth v Man City, Saturday 26th August 12:30

[SALTIRE]

Match chat.

 

[JimJams]

Bournemouth have been shit so far. Can't see that changing for this game. City win.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

We're always most obliging for City, the way we play suits them down to the ground and their attacking / creative players always shine in the space we'll allow them.

It's been an underwhelming first couple of games, lacking the energy we normally carry through the side. We played City at home in February last season and it was a turning point for the better. After a struggling run of games, coming away with 'only' a 2-0 defeat with a good positive performance set a tone for a successful run in to last season. Maybe a similar game again could have a similar boost? I have no doubt about the result, but the manner of it could be important. Lose by a large margin and that damage could stick.

Midfield has been the biggest issue in these past two games, Arter and Surman shouldn't be starting again for me. Whether we stick with a two but swap Gosling and Lewis Cook in, or maybe go with a three, something has to change there. Defoe should now be fit to start should Howe wish, so if we can create something we'd carry that threat. So far it's the creation that's been missing. And when you're a side who's raison d'etre is attacking football, to the determent of all else, when you stop creating chances everything goes a bit tits up

 

[Benji]

Bernardo Silva starts, should be interesting. He's looked promising in his few minutes so far. I think City will win by several.

 

[Stevencc]

Yeah, I can see a mauling here.

And probably a gloating Silkyman after.

 

[Benji]

What a goal by Daniels!

 

[Stevencc]

What a fucking strike!

 

[Stevencc]

Nice ball from Silva.

 

[silkyman]

Started to pick up after a slow start. Hell of a goal from Daniels though!

 

[Stevencc]

Aké's Looking shaky.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Kin hit Daniels

Improved for sure. City always threatening obviously, but they're possible to catch with a good tempo. First 25 mins was fantastic. After an exercise in defending.

Still expect City to go up another gear, but some positives so far for sure.

 

[silkyman]

Bournemouth a little lucky to still have eleven men after booking in the first half and that challenge on Jesus.

 

[Stevencc]

The ref definitely let that foul go just then because he'd got in the way a few seconds earlier.

 

[Stevencc]

And the City fans are on the pitch.

 

[Stevencc]

And Sterling's gone.

 

[Jamie_SFC]

And the City fans are on the pitch.

And they've got the goalscorer sent off.

 

[silkyman]

Blimey.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Well that hurts, a lot. The sense of anger leaving the ground is palpable. Mousset won that ball beautifully and was through on goal. How on earth is it a foul, and of course the breakaway that finally gets City their goal. Mike Dean presiding over a farce throughout stoppage time resulting from that decision.

Get out of jail big time for City. Big shift for us ultimately fruitless. City fans dancing around the pitch.

In truth bus parking doesn't often work for us, and I'd have liked a couple of changes from Eddie sooner to give the side more tempo. Sitting and sitting is often likely to result in a slip at some stage. But fuck me the circumstances in which it happened were a disgrace.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Local news now picked up by the Mail are reporting that Aguero is alleged to have hit a steward at some point, presumably in the melee after the goal? And police have taken a statement on the matter. Doubt it'll amount to much, unless the Dean has seen it and includes it in his report.

Certainly an eventful afternoon.

 

[The Mustard Tiger]

Awful showing from Mike Dean today. How the whistle wasn't blown before the goal is absurd. And as AFCB Mark pointed out, how Dean decided it was a foul by Mousset at the death beggars belief. And as for the sending off? Ridiculous. What is the ref trying to achieve with decisions like that? I watched this in the pub with the father in law who's more of a rugby man than a footie man and he was even spitting feathers at some of the awful decisions. Unlucky Bournemouth.

 

[silkyman]

Local news now picked up by the Mail are reporting that Aguero is alleged to have hit a steward at some point, presumably in the melee after the goal? And police have taken a statement on the matter. Doubt it'll amount to much, unless the Dean has seen it and includes it in his report.

Certainly an eventful afternoon.

I've seen some fan footage of the incident after the goal, and Aguero goes over to show some concern over a fan who is being manhandled by stewards. There seems to be some 'lively debate' between him and a copper, but nothing more than that to suggest anything particularly problematic.

 

[silkyman]

Awful showing from Mike Dean today. How the whistle wasn't blown before the goal is absurd. And as AFCB Mark pointed out, how Dean decided it was a foul by Mousset at the death beggars belief. And as for the sending off? Ridiculous. What is the ref trying to achieve with decisions like that? I watched this in the pub with the father in law who's more of a rugby man than a footie man and he was even spitting feathers at some of the awful decisions. Unlucky Bournemouth.

There was a break in play pretty much bang on 90 minutes, and the game wasn't actually going on when the five minutes was shown. The ref spent about a minute talking to the two managers, and then Afobe received treatment and was subbed off while Sterling and Adam Smith were both booked, which added on a few more seconds, too.

Overall, Dean was awful as always. Ake should probably have gone earlier on and the foul on Jesus was shocking, and was completely waved away.

 

[silkyman]

https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/club-news/club-issues-statement-on-alleged-steward-incident

Steward makes baseless allegation.

Steward realises that the game was on TV and that people all have video cameras in their pockets these days.

Allegation withdrawn.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

There was a break in play pretty much bang on 90 minutes, and the game wasn't actually going on when the five minutes was shown. The ref spent about a minute talking to the two managers, and then Afobe received treatment and was subbed off while Sterling and Adam Smith were both booked, which added on a few more seconds, too.

Overall, Dean was awful as always. Ake should probably have gone earlier on and the foul on Jesus was shocking, and was completely waved away.

Ake was booked for it wasn't he? If its the same one I'm thinking of? He was arguably last man, all be it a long way out. Some days that might be red, but I think yellow would be the decision the majority of the time.

It did leave Ake with a huge amount of the game to go, almost always defending, to avoid another foul. Which I thought he did very well.

Guardiola spent a lot of the last 5-10 mins of normal time arguing with Howe, the forth official, anyone he could. Clearly frustrated. The referee having to sort him out only adding to the stoppage time that eventually saw City score. So he might feel that worked well.

Interesting how all the stoppages after the goal, the pitch invasion and celebrations, the kerfuffle after the red card, a good few minutes there, were ignored. But City had got there goal, the crowd were up for lynching Dean, so the game ended almost immediately. At least be consistent in your pedantry in adding on stoppages!

 

[Super_horns]

I know it's the rules but surely some common sense could be used in these last minute goal celebrations?

Even last week some of our fans got into the pitch so maybe there is an issue there with the away end beung so close?

 

[AFCB_Mark]

I know it's the rules but surely some common sense could be used in these last minute goal celebrations?

Even last week some of our fans got into the pitch so maybe there is an issue there with the away end beung so close?

Regarding the supporters- We had plenty of full up away ends in League One and the championship, at a larger capacity than it has now even, and invasions were very rare. For some reason since coming up to the PL they've become much more regular. Part of that will be that we concede more dramatic goals I guess? I wouldn't say PL fans were any more vociferous? Genuinely not sure.

I wouldn't change our small ground being close to the pitch for the world. If people want to get themselves a banning order by getting on our pitch when there's about 7 CCTV cameras, not to mention most of the police deployment, covering that away end then that's up to them.

Regarding the bookings for players, yeah they should be allowed to show some emotion and celebrate of course. Common sense is certainly something Mike Dean lacks.

 

[ThisTinpotLeague]

But City had got there goal, the crowd were up for lynching Dean, so the game ended almost immediately. At least be consistent in your pedantry in adding on stoppages!

I think they're right to forget about the extra seconds of stoppage time if there's any concern about safety.

I wouldn't change our small ground being close to the pitch for the world. If people want to get themselves a banning order by getting on our pitch...then that's up to them.

Regarding the bookings for players, yeah they should be allowed to show some emotion and celebrate of course

Agreed with all that. I don't like the idea Sterling was sent off based on what I saw, which was just a player going mad after scoring a dramatic goal. But being close to the pitch is class.

What a goal by Daniels. He has a foot like a traction engine

 

[silkyman]

Ake was booked for it wasn't he? If its the same one I'm thinking of? He was arguably last man, all be it a long way out. Some days that might be red, but I think yellow would be the decision the majority of the time.

It did leave Ake with a huge amount of the game to go, almost always defending, to avoid another foul. Which I thought he did very well.

Guardiola spent a lot of the last 5-10 mins of normal time arguing with Howe, the forth official, anyone he could. Clearly frustrated. The referee having to sort him out only adding to the stoppage time that eventually saw City score. So he might feel that worked well.

Interesting how all the stoppages after the goal, the pitch invasion and celebrations, the kerfuffle after the red card, a good few minutes there, were ignored. But City had got there goal, the crowd were up for lynching Dean, so the game ended almost immediately. At least be consistent in your pedantry in adding on stoppages!

That's not how added time works though, is it? If there was 30 seconds left on the clock, then there's 30 seconds left. If it takes three minutes to start that 30 seconds, it's still only 30 seconds. There was five minutes to 'play' at 90. That didn't start until 91. Then there was an injury, a sub and two bookings to stretch that to 97, the goal, the celebration and associated shenanigans dragged the game out to about 101 minutes but the game was only being played for five of them.

Reminds me of a Billy the Fish strip in Viz when the manager had a heart attack during the game and had open heart surgery on the pitch, leaving Fulchester United with eight and a half hours of injury time.

 

[silkyman]

I think they're right to forget about the extra seconds of stoppage time if there's any concern about safety.



Agreed with all that. I don't like the idea Sterling was sent off based on what I saw, which was just a player going mad after scoring a dramatic goal. But being close to the pitch is class.

What a goal by Daniels. He has a foot like a traction engine

Watching it again on MOTD, he does fuck all wrong. He runs TO the fans. He doesn't go over the barrier at all. Bullshit from a referee who wanted to make it all about himself. That's two bollocks reds in three games now.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

The way football seems to be going thesedays i get that view if the Jimmy Glass goal happend in 2019 rather than 1999 all we'd have to get for a lst second goalie goal to keep a side in the league would be a polite clap or else the entire ground would be sent off/arrrested for daring to celebrate.