Dean Saunders sacked at Chesterfield

[Westbars_Spireite]

My realistic top 5 in no particular order for anyone interested;

O'Driscoll
Tisdale
Cooper
Rosler
Hill

Two are in jobs but might want to go to a club with more potential, bigger crowds etc. Maybe they won't. Maybe we won't pay any compo, I dunno, but this episode has shown the importance of making the right appointment.

Chris Wilder could be an option if he's able to leave Northampton due to not being paid - he's from just the other side of the South Yorkshire border and started his managerial career locally at Alfreton so knows the area.

 

[DN14 Spire]

It's pretty slim pickings that's for sure. No one really stands out as a candidate. All the more reason for holding a proper recruitment process, Dave...

Personally i'm happy with the strategy of letting Smith have a decent go first and seeing where that gets us.

 

[EricSabin]

My realistic top 5 in no particular order for anyone interested;

O'Driscoll
Tisdale
Cooper
Rosler
Hill

Two are in jobs but might want to go to a club with more potential, bigger crowds etc. Maybe they won't. Maybe we won't pay any compo, I dunno, but this episode has shown the importance of making the right appointment.

Chris Wilder could be an option if he's able to leave Northampton due to not being paid - he's from just the other side of the South Yorkshire border and started his managerial career locally at Alfreton so knows the area.

Wilder has been paid and we've been taken over by his mate. Back off!

 

[valefan16]

A lot of our fans want Rosler for Page when we've been in big form but hasn't he got a dire record excluding this time at a heavily financed Brentford (in league one)? Flopped at Leeds and Wigan since.

 

[CFC91]

Not sure who I want..Keith Hill, John Coleman, Cooper and Rosler are the ones that jump out but seems to be a bit of support for the caretaker Smith too.

 

[T.A]

John Coleman??

 

[spireite]

John Coleman??

He's doing a great job with Accy tbf. Looks like maybe a Keith Hill situation - they have a fantastic fit with 1 club and fail when taken out of that comfort zone

 

[Hooped Wizard]

Keith Hill didn't fail at the Dingles. their fans seem to think they are better than a bottom end championship club so he was forced out.

Since he's gone they're sinking back to their natural level at a fierce pace. Coleman is a good manager as well.

 

[T.A]

Coleman Is a dinosaur. He can only do well at non-league setup where he and his thug assistant manager can be top dogs.

Trust me. You can do better than him.

 

[Hooped Wizard]

Coleman Is a dinosaur. He can only do well at non-league setup where he and his thug assistant manager can be top dogs.

Trust me. You can do better than him.

Oh yes because he's currently doing a disastrous job at the very job of league 2. he's not as good as Hill but he's clearly a good FL manager.

 

[Town]

Mark cooper the front runner as things stand I believe, no knocking the football Swindon played last season, smashed us twice.

Swindon fans here rate him? He obviously didn't do too well this season after having his better players sold, was it a case of him getting lucky with a few good players and loanees? Just like Sheridan (IMO) did with us, or is he actually a decent manager that will keep us up and take us forward?

Majority of our lot would love Keith Hill, but it won't happen.

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

My main concern with Cooper is that he seemed to immediately struggle when he lost his best players. Was he unable to fashion a new team? Was he overly reliant on quality young loanees rather than unearthing his own gems?

 

[T.A]

Oh yes because he's currently doing a disastrous job at the very job of league 2. he's not as good as Hill but he's clearly a good FL manager.

He's doing well there like he did before because Accy only want to stay in the league. Give Coleman to any club with aspirations and he'll fail. Like he did last time.

 

[DN14 Spire]

Interesting tweet from the usual man in the know (Biggs). Wilder does seem to be one of several under consideration.

 

[Indian Dan]

Mark Cooper's a strange one, really. Nobody is entirely sure what influence he actually had at the club. Some think he was just the front man for the media with Power doing the recruiting and Williams the training. Personally, I liked the bloke and hope he does well but to be entirely honest I have my doubts about his ability. Sure he'll get a good reception when he returns to the CG.

 

[EricSabin]

I'd 100% go for Mark Cooper. Honest.

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

There are suggestions that Chris Wilder is very much being looked at and that any compensation would not be insurmountable.

 

[EricSabin]

There are suggestions that Chris Wilder is very much being looked at and that any compensation would not be insurmountable.

Saw that. Not sure if he'd go, had the chance to when we were in the grip of our financial problems (only to Cambridge, but still) but now we aren't and his mate is chairman, added to the fact we are flying, not sure if he'd leave right now. Would do a good job though, I'd imagine

 

[CFC91]

Wilder, Cooper and Stuart Grey the faves according to the bookies..

 

[DarkSithLord]

Would be great to see Chris got a job at another Local club after his very successful spell in charge of Alfreton where he made his name.

 

[Scribblemilk]

As a Swindon fan i'd say don't employ Cooper, he was tactically niave last season, with the players we had we should of got promoted, we got to the play off final despite him not because of him. The players that left the club didn't shower him in complements rather the opposite. He fell out with Williams our trully talented coach and this season banned him from taking the sessions, what resulted was some really quite bizzare tactical decisions and terribly performances, not helped admittedly by a horrendous injury list (strange that most players are now back and our form has improved) its a myth that he likes to play attacking football that was a dictate from our chairman, he is more defensive than that naturally, so i'd say stay away at all costs.

 

[DarkSithLord]

As a Swindon fan i'd say don't employ Cooper, he was tactically niave last season, with the players we had we should of got promoted, we got to the play off final despite him not because of him. The players that left the club didn't shower him in complements rather the opposite. He fell out with Williams our trully talented coach and this season banned him from taking the sessions, what resulted was some really quite bizzare tactical decisions and terribly performances, not helped admittedly by a horrendous injury list (strange that most players are now back and our form has improved) its a myth that he likes to play attacking football that was a dictate from our chairman, he is more defensive than that naturally, so i'd say stay away at all costs.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

As a Swindon fan i'd say don't employ Cooper, he was tactically niave last season, with the players we had we should of got promoted, we got to the play off final despite him not because of him. The players that left the club didn't shower him in complements rather the opposite. He fell out with Williams our trully talented coach and this season banned him from taking the sessions, what resulted was some really quite bizzare tactical decisions and terribly performances, not helped admittedly by a horrendous injury list (strange that most players are now back and our form has improved) its a myth that he likes to play attacking football that was a dictate from our chairman, he is more defensive than that naturally, so i'd say stay away at all costs.

Hmmm. I have to say it does back up a few other things I've heard.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Chesterfield...Burton...Walsall all looking for managers to deal with a similar budget. Chesterfield will probably get the pick, between us and Burton for the rest. I'd say we have a more naturally and technically talented team to work with, but we all know ours will be sold for 6p and then replaced for completely free. So who wants to work with that?

Nobody with a brain cell.

 

[spireite]

Chesterfield...Burton...Walsall all looking for managers to deal with a similar budget. Chesterfield will probably get the pick, between us and Burton for the rest. I'd say we have a more naturally and technically talented team to work with, but we all know ours will be sold for 6p and then replaced for completely free. So who wants to work with that?

Nobody with a brain cell.

I'd have thought you'd be a more attractive proposition than us as it stands mate. It's a quite a big rebuild job needed here and Deanosaurus has used up all the budget on old dudes

 

[Saddlerrad]

I'd have thought you'd be a more attractive proposition than us as it stands mate. It's a quite a big rebuild job needed here and Deanosaurus has used up all the budget on old dudes

I'd agree with you that we are probably more attractive as things stand. But any manager with a reputation that take's over us - knows that the chances are Bradshaw, Sawyers and Henry will be sold in January for below market value and then the entire team is about 20% as good as it was with them in - the replacements will come in form of freebies and youngsters without any money being reinvested to replace them properly - our season will drift away and the new manager will cop come of the shit for it.

The likes of Lalkovic, Demetriou and Mantom are out of contract in the summer too. There will be a huge rebuild needed for us next summer, regardless of league position and management. Any new candidate must be aware of that.

 

[spireite]

I'd agree with you that we are probably more attractive as things stand. But any manager with a reputation that take's over us - knows that the chances are Bradshaw, Sawyers and Henry will be sold in January for below market value and then the entire team is about 20% as good as it was with them in - the replacements will come in form of freebies and youngsters without any money being reinvested to replace them properly - our season will drift away and the new manager will cop come of the shit for it.

The likes of Lalkovic, Demetriou and Mantom are out of contract in the summer too. There will be a huge rebuild needed for us next summer, regardless of league position and management. Any new candidate must be aware of that.

We're in the same boat, except the only player we have left who is saleable is Morsy (the rest were sold in the Summer), and he'll be gone for cheap in Jan. The other problem here is that any player sales we get is just used to service our massive debt. We had like £3m in outgoing player sales last season/early this season but you wouldn't know it

What fun it is being a lower league fan

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

JFH was reportedly on a salary of £40k pa at Burton. Dunno about what Walsall can or did play their manager but you'd assume it's much more than that. Maybe they'll feel able to spend more this time, if needed, as JFH didn't really need the money. Both of you been compensated for your managers too?

As for us & Deanosaurus, I imagine he was on a salary of around £150k pa.

 

[Shrimpurh]

JFH was reportedly on a salary of £40k pa at Burton. Dunno about what Walsall can or did play their manager but you'd assume it's much more than that. Maybe they'll feel able to spend more this time, if needed, as JFH didn't really need the money. Both of you been compensated for your managers too?

As for us & Deanosaurus, I imagine he was on a salary of around £150k pa.

40K a year, can't believe that. The fact his gone QPR shows he is arsed about money. Not like his gone there because it's a fantastically well run club is it.

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

40K a year, can't believe that. The fact his gone QPR shows he is arsed about money. Not like his gone there because it's a fantastically well run club is it.

That's what was said when he was appointed. If he wants to progress his career he'll get better jobs with bigger clubs which naturally will pay more but that doesn't mean he's motivated by the money.