FA Cup Second Round

[hellogregory]

Only issue at Welling is their midget pitch. They deliberately have it as narrow as possible to deny the opposition space

Shit. I was hoping they'd have a pitch similar to FC United's, perfect for a routine form book away win.

 

[Laker]

Looking at the full draw, you'd think Salford v Hartlepool would be on tv then either Grimsby/Shrewsbury or Welling/Carlisle (or both - I'm not sure how manat they pick). There are a couple of League 2 teams at home to League 1 clubs but it's mostly about non league clubs at this stage, and rightly so.

There's a disappointing number of higher ranked teams at home sadly.

 

[EricSabin]

Northwich or Boreham Wood at home. Tekkit, now on to avoiding an upset.

Plus I'm back from Uni that weekend and getting bladdered on the Friday so a home game is perfect

 

[Murphy]

I wish the FA Cup would stop giving us winnable R2 games before we cock up the R1 replay.

 

[Sestonpoolie]

Hartlepool will knock Salford out.

The only team talk Moore needs to do is show them a video of Notts County's inept, gutless performance and that should be enough.

I'm sure we can more than match County in the inept/gutless stakes.

 

[shoddycollins]

Looks like Hartlepool are getting embarrassed live on telly again

 

[shoddycollins]

What are Welling like as a club anyway... A quick check of a map confirms they exist in that ring of shitness that surrounds London, that includes places like Boreham Wood.... BHW were diabolical, so what can we expect from Welling?

UPDATE:
From Wikipedia
"Local legend has it that Welling is so called because in the era of horse-drawn vehicles, it could be said you were "well in" to Kent"
Literally the most bollocks explanation for a place name I've ever read.

Oddly. Keith Curle says we've already scouted them.
"We've had them watched as part of our scouting umbrella in the London area"

which brought out the most fantastic response about us from a Welling fan on their forum
"I'm sure we've had them watched as part of our scouting umbrella in the Cumbrian area"

 

[AtaturkOzgutson]

As a club? They're nothing special, but hospitable. Welling is just a grim, grim area of South East London (some may say Kent, but let's not do that whole debate again) and brothels and boozers aside there's not much to the place. Nicknamed the Wings, they play in red, and their ground is atypical of a Conference South side - a smattering of seats down the touchline and some nice old fashioned terracing behind each goal. The only thing I would say is it's not the easiest place to reach by public transport, but you can pull up and park easily enough in a car.

However, on the pitch they've done brilliantly to stay in the Conference for so long, and even finished just shy of the top half when we went up (if my memory is correct) despite being favourites for the drop. Played good football back then, but not sure if that's still the case. They've had some decent players, relatively speaking, in Kedwell, Pugh, Lafayette and (now scum) Beautyman. Inoffensive but not particularly passionate amongst their not overly large ranks, and one of the smallest sides we met during our time in non-league.

You could do worse for an FA Cup day trip. We didn't win there, but you may.

 

[E10rifle]

Doubt we'll get that lucky two rounds in a row, mind - probably end up at somewhere horrific like Scunthorpe.

Fucking knew it. Only surprise is that it's in E10.

 

[rudebwoyben]

As a club? They're nothing special, but hospitable. Welling is just a grim, grim area of South East London (some may say Kent, but let's not do that whole debate again) and brothels and boozers aside there's not much to the place. Nicknamed the Wings, they play in red, and their ground is atypical of a Conference South side - a smattering of seats down the touchline and some nice old fashioned terracing behind each goal. The only thing I would say is it's not the easiest place to reach by public transport, but you can pull up and park easily enough in a car.

However, on the pitch they've done brilliantly to stay in the Conference for so long, and even finished just shy of the top half when we went up (if my memory is correct) despite being favourites for the drop. Played good football back then, but not sure if that's still the case. They've had some decent players, relatively speaking, in Kedwell, Pugh, Lafayette and (now scum) Beautyman. Inoffensive but not particularly passionate amongst their not overly large ranks, and one of the smallest sides we met during our time in non-league.

You could do worse for an FA Cup day trip. We didn't win there, but you may.

Welling is also where the BNP's HQ is situated.
This is a pretty funny article that gives you a pretty good picture of Welling Utd.
http://putnielsingoal.com/2015/03/2...oneyball-fm-2015-in-the-lower-leagues-part-1/

 

[E10rifle]

Welling is an inoffensive nonentity of an area. Hard to tell where it begins and ends. Bexley Borough as a whole is sort of like that - a grey, indistinct morass of unremarkable humanity. Certainly nothing like the distinctiveness and self-sufficient nature of near-neighbours Bromley. Only Bexley Village has anything approaching charm.

The club draws most of their meagre support from Bexleyheath, which is a pleasant enough area to drink if south east London is your sort of thing. Typical city-based non league club; more than its fair share of oddballs, but perfectly welcoming.

 

[BeesKnees]

You will also have the joys of 'WingsTV'
Earns a living charging away fans £4 for highlights of the match. He doesn't like us very much as we refused to let him film at the Hive, our chairman has an issue with others trying to make money in his manor.

If there is anything controversial then expect him to put it up on youtube. This one got into the national press

 

[shoddycollins]

You will also have the joys of 'WingsTV'
Earns a living charging away fans £4 for highlights of the match. He doesn't like us very much as we refused to let him film at the Hive, our chairman has an issue with others trying to make money in his manor.

If there is anything controversial then expect him to put it up on youtube. This one got into the national press

That's brilliant, any colour you like ref. Can't beat seeing a linesman get cropped. Stamp from the Halifax number 5 was a bit stupid right in front of the ref though.

 

[rudebwoyben]

That's brilliant, any colour you like ref. Can't beat seeing a linesman get cropped. Stamp from the Halifax number 5 was a bit stupid right in front of the ref though.

The funniest thing is that the ref didn't even give a foul for that assault by the corner flag.

 

[Sergei from IT]

As a club? They're nothing special, but hospitable. Welling is just a grim, grim area of South East London (some may say Kent, but let's not do that whole debate again) and brothels and boozers aside there's not much to the place. Nicknamed the Wings, they play in red, and their ground is atypical of a Conference South side - a smattering of seats down the touchline and some nice old fashioned terracing behind each goal. The only thing I would say is it's not the easiest place to reach by public transport, but you can pull up and park easily enough in a car.

However, on the pitch they've done brilliantly to stay in the Conference for so long, and even finished just shy of the top half when we went up (if my memory is correct) despite being favourites for the drop. Played good football back then, but not sure if that's still the case. They've had some decent players, relatively speaking, in Kedwell, Pugh, Lafayette and (now scum) Beautyman. Inoffensive but not particularly passionate amongst their not overly large ranks, and one of the smallest sides we met during our time in non-league.

You could do worse for an FA Cup day trip. We didn't win there, but you may.

I live in Welling (though I don't support them) about half a mile from their ground.


Your post is complete and utter crap. The postcode is DA16 (a Dartford post code) which is well and truly in North Kent. I am unaware of any brothels - though we do have 4 pawn shops and 1 porn shop.;

There are not that many boozers - and the local Wetherspoons burnt down recently ( a kitchen fire). It is in the process of being rebuilt. The best boozer for visiting supporters is the Guy Earl of Warwick which is right next to the ground. The public transport is superb with direct trans to Victoria, Charing Cross, Waterloo,Cannon Street and London Bridge (12 trains an hour in rush hour, 6 and hour offf peak). There is also a connection to the DLR a couple of stops up the line at Lewisham.

Parking is atrocious.

There most famous player was probably Steve Finnan. The only player to have played in all the top 5 levels of English football and to have a European Champions medal as well.

 

[WAP]

If I was watching Whitehawk, might aswell watch from that huge mug off hill.

 

[Sergei from IT]

Welling is also where the BNP's HQ is situated.
This is a pretty funny article that gives you a pretty good picture of Welling Utd.
http://putnielsingoal.com/2015/03/2...oneyball-fm-2015-in-the-lower-leagues-part-1/

The BNP were thrown out 22 years ago.

Keep up

 

[BeesKnees]

I live in Welling (though I don't support them) about half a mile from their ground.
Your post is complete and utter crap. The postcode is DA16 (a Dartford post code) which is well and truly in North Kent. I am unaware of any brothels - though we do have 4 pawn shops and 1 porn shop.;
There are not that many boozers - and the local Wetherspoons burnt down recently ( a kitchen fire). It is in the process of being rebuilt. The best boozer for visiting supporters is the Guy Earl of Warwick which is right next to the ground. The public transport is superb with direct trans to Victoria, Charing Cross, Waterloo,Cannon Street and London Bridge (12 trains an hour in rush hour, 6 and hour offf peak). There is also a connection to the DLR a couple of stops up the line at Lewisham.
Parking is atrocious.
There most famous player was probably Steve Finnan. The only player to have played in all the top 5 levels of English football and to have a European Champions medal as well.

For anyone not from the Welling area, it's London like Barnet and Wimbledon play in London.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welling
'This article is about the district in London'

and the transport is crap because it's not on the tube.

 

[shoddycollins]

From reading the article Ben posted, us and Welling both have something in common. We've both conspired in Barrow's expulsion from a division to save our own skins, so I'm sure we'll get on like a house on fire... or a Wetherspoons on fire if you will.

Also, worth mentioning is that looking at Welling's forum, there is a blog-writing Daggers fan (is there any other kind of Daggers fan?) doing a project where he picks a club to follow in the first preliminary round, follows them until they get knocked out and then adopts the club that beat them, until they get knocked out and so on. So far he's gotten to Welling, which means should we beat the mightly Wings, we will win, not only a place in the third round, but far more importantly, the interest of a blog-writing Daggers fan (there really is no other type, in my experience all football blogs are written by Daggers fans).

 

[shoddycollins]

For anyone not from the Welling area, it's London like Barnet and Wimbledon play in London.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welling
'This article is about the district in London'

and the transport is crap because it's not on the tube.

See, as a Northerner my view of London is simple. Anything inside Greater London is London... anything outside is not. However am aware that most of Greater London was carved out of Essex, Kent, Surrey and Middlesex which divide the suburbs into four quarters with little bit of Herts up top... so I don't really care whether it is Kent or London... it can be both.

It's like Salford/Manchester all over again.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

its an area enough of our away day fans have been about...Charlton, Grays, Gravesend in recent years, Millwall even.

they may get a surprise about our numbers, east London I think is one of our main areas for our London fanbase which could add 200 plus, we usually take god numbers 300-500+ for them east London area clubs.

 

[MrGloverLover]

Satanage at home. Meh.

 

[AtaturkOzgutson]

I live in Welling (though I don't support them) about half a mile from their ground.
Your post is complete and utter crap. The postcode is DA16 (a Dartford post code) which is well and truly in North Kent. I am unaware of any brothels - though we do have 4 pawn shops and 1 porn shop.;

There are not that many boozers - and the local Wetherspoons burnt down recently ( a kitchen fire). It is in the process of being rebuilt. The best boozer for visiting supporters is the Guy Earl of Warwick which is right next to the ground. The public transport is superb with direct trans to Victoria, Charing Cross, Waterloo,Cannon Street and London Bridge (12 trains an hour in rush hour, 6 and hour offf peak). There is also a connection to the DLR a couple of stops up the line at Lewisham.

Parking is atrocious.

There most famous player was probably Steve Finnan. The only player to have played in all the top 5 levels of English football and to have a European Champions medal as well.

It's not though, is it? Because I'm correct. It is London. There are brothels. Anywhere in London not on the tube means a massive ballache unless yo're coming in from Kent, it may be fine to commute but it's a little different when people will be arriving there. The DLR is no use to anyone from Carlisle, is it? I'm not slagging the area off just describing it as accurately as possible having been there several times.

As for parking, last time I parked 4 yards from the turnstile, for free. Which isn't atrocious. Presumably they've done the usual council thing and removed all the parking available so they can charge a fortune for some local council owned tip.

Sorry if I seem to have struck a nerve. And regarding Steve Finnan, I was referring to the last few seasons, not over 20 years ago.

See, as a Northerner my view of London is simple. Anything inside Greater London is London... anything outside is not. However am aware that most of Greater London was carved out of Essex, Kent, Surrey and Middlesex which divide the suburbs into four quarters with little bit of Herts up top... so I don't really care whether it is Kent or London... it can be both.

It's like Salford/Manchester all over again.

The difference is that Welling, Bexley etc are actually all in London. Cold hard fact. In the olden days it may have been Kent, but it isn't now. Not even a debate like the Salford thing.

Consider it the same as Lancashire. Manchester isn't in Lancashire. FACT. Simple. May have been way back when, but no more.

 

[AdamStag]

pretty pointless you posting in this thread.

Kenny, you useless fecks better win or you can join him above.

As for us, Doncaster at home, it's winnable providing we get a decent manager in, if not I'll be joining you two.


KTF.

Oh ye of little faith

 

[shoddycollins]

The difference is that Welling, Bexley etc are actually all in London. Cold hard fact. In the olden days it may have been Kent, but it isn't now. Not even a debate like the Salford thing.

Consider it the same as Lancashire. Manchester isn't in Lancashire. FACT. Simple. May have been way back when, but no more.

It kind of depends how far you want to take the argument that whenever the local governments are rejigged, places that are put into a new authority area can no longer be called by the name of their former county.

If you were to say that is always the case then Derby is no longer in Derbyshire, neither is Leicester in Leicestershire or Nottingham in Nottinghamshire.

Maybe you could argue that only changes that took place before 1974 stand, while the rest is some kind of grey area... or you could just say it's all grey area.

 

[BeesKnees]

The difference is that Welling, Bexley etc are actually all in London. Cold hard fact. In the olden days it may have been Kent, but it isn't now. Not even a debate like the Salford thing.

Consider it the same as Lancashire. Manchester isn't in Lancashire. FACT. Simple. May have been way back when, but no more.

If you come from Welling then it is as much up for debate as the Salford discussion. There are plenty of people in Barnet who see Barnet as Hertfordshire and not London and on some measures they are not wrong.
The argument is unwinnable as it depends on the measure you use. Welling is in the county of Kent and it does have a Kent postcode, the argument stems from whether you believe being administered by a London local authority makes it London. For many of those local to the area it doesn't but for those new to the area or from some distance away they don't really care enough to differentiate.
I do not see Barnet or Welling as part of London but accept that it's easier to let everyone make their own minds up. It's the same for our new ground, you hear people say we play in Harrow but actually Harrow is almost as far away as Barnet and it's only that the area of Edgware we are in falls under Harrow Council that the debate occurs.
For some these days anything inside the M25 is London. I apply the same logic elsewhere, for me anything inside the M60 is Manchester or as close as makes no difference when you've travelled 150 miles to get there and I see no reason to respect the locals views any more than they do mine.

 

[Vanni]

Only thing that's even remotely interesting about Welling is this photo -

 

[shoddycollins]

Only thing that's even remotely interesting about Welling is this photo -

Genius!!!

 

[Bobbin']

It's not though, is it? Because I'm correct. It is London. There are brothels. Anywhere in London not on the tube means a massive ballache unless yo're coming in from Kent, it may be fine to commute but it's a little different when people will be arriving there. The DLR is no use to anyone from Carlisle, is it? I'm not slagging the area off just describing it as accurately as possible having been there several times.

As for parking, last time I parked 4 yards from the turnstile, for free. Which isn't atrocious. Presumably they've done the usual council thing and removed all the parking available so they can charge a fortune for some local council owned tip.

Sorry if I seem to have struck a nerve. And regarding Steve Finnan, I was referring to the last few seasons, not over 20 years ago.



The difference is that Welling, Bexley etc are actually all in London. Cold hard fact. In the olden days it may have been Kent, but it isn't now. Not even a debate like the Salford thing.

Consider it the same as Lancashire. Manchester isn't in Lancashire. FACT. Simple. May have been way back when, but no more.

As opposed to the bloke who actually lives there.

Welling is not a ballache to get to, you get a direct train from London Bridge, Charing Cross or Victoria to Welling station and it's a 20 minute walk to the ground. It's no more difficult to get to than any club in and around London.

As for the place, you can call it London but officially it's in Kent with a Kent postcode.

 

[AtaturkOzgutson]

As for the place, you can call it London but officially it's in Kent with a Kent postcode.

I'm not going to dispute the transport, or anything else about the place and I will bow to your local knowledge. As BeesKnees says, a lot of people live in the past with these things, however I prefer to see it as clear cut by what it currently is, not what it was before these things were reformed. If anything now, these boundaries need to be expanded further. Certainly in the parts of London I'm most familiar with (north and east London) they're no longer inclusive enough. As you may have guessed, I find urban areas and how they grow, expand and interlink quite fascinating, for an interesting article on London borders have a read of this: https://barneystringer.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/is-london-too-small/

Beesknees, the M60 with Manchester is almost a good a method as any, but I don't see the M25 in the same way with London. North of the river it fits reasonably well (certainly the places that are exceptions commonly have tube stations etc) but South it's a bit of a mishmash as the likes of Cobham, Caterham, Biggin Higg etc are more distinct than, say Romford or Chigwell. The M60 method is a massive can of worms, but it's only really Wythenshawe and the airport that are part of Manchester and outside that.

Anyway, I'll leave this here and then vow to not mention this subject again. Football only from now on!