Hereford FC 2015/2016.

[ForeverUnited]

Bloody hell how can a team go 34 games unbeaten and still not be top lol!
Guess there must be a lot of draws in there somewhere?

34 in all comps, but we won 27 straight games in all competitions. 18 of which were in the league.

 

[rudebwoyben]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/18/hereford-fc-wembley-fa-vase-semi-final-salisbury

 

[ForeverUnited]

after beating Salisbury yesterday 2-1(3-1) We're going to Wembley!

 

[Techno Natch]

Great news your fans deserves it.

 

[mnb089mnb]

I'm a bit conflicted but I'm not sure if phoenix clubs should be allowed in the FA Vase.

 

[ForeverUnited]

Well, We along with other Phoenix clubs in their first season aren't in the FA Cup, and until we've played in the FA Vase or Trophy aren't allowed in the FA Cup. Also, It is the first time any of the Phoenix clubs have gotten to the Vase final, I believe.

First batch of tickets for the final were put on today, all sold already.

 

[Jabba the gut]

I'm a bit conflicted too, but for different reasons - particularly the way the "plucky little Hereford" feelgood story has been swallowed hook, line and sinker by the football media and social media, without any questions being asked about the way the club was set up and the allegations of murky behaviour of some prominent figures at the club in that regard. For example, I never see anything about the collapse of the Supporter's Trust elections,the iinvolvement of Supporters' Direct to address the shambles and the behaviour of Trust figures close to the (formerly anonymous) private investors. Ditto for the breathtakingly fan-unfriendly Articles of Association (essentially a company' constitution) of the new club, which I believe among other things, permit the private owners who really call the shots to have a financial conflict of interest and which astonishingly lock the fans out of any real power - they are actually barred from ever having majority control, which must be unique in English football.

Much has been made about the 97% vote, but the fans were given no real choice. The Hale consortium claimed that if their bid was not sanctioned Edgar Street would be lost and there would be no new club, so the vote was essentially what you would expect if you asked an electorate to vote for survival or their own execution. (It now looks as though the ground may be lost in a few years anyway).

The private consortium made this claim despite the fact that the Trust leadership (of whom Hale was once a part and who became VERY close to the private, formerly anonymous "investors") responded to repeated queries from fans regarding progress on a fan-owned club by saying it was "all in hand". What happened in such a short period for them to abandon the idea without telling anybody? Why did it subsequently come to light that the investors/former Trust chair Hale had been registering trademarks and the like, without making it known, long before a phoenix club was a serious ambition? Why have there been accusations that a Trust leader close to the private investors who has traduced fan-ownership following the formation of HFC (yes, you did read that correctly) planted various pro-board, anti-fan ownership articles in various websites and local media comments pages using a fake identity filched from an unknowing accountant in Manchester or somewhere? Why was he accused of banning posters on the main fans forum who asked awkward questions of the way the club was set up and the private investors' subsequent behaviour and then summarily closing it down when some fans supposedly got uncomfortably close to the truth?

Having repeatedly traduced the concept of fan ownership, why did HFC disseminate misleading PR giving the impression to the outside world they were a form of fan-owned club? (Many other clubs have fan shareholdings with no real power - that is not what is normally meant by "fan ownership"). For example the fanfare given to a friendly with FC United, with the HFC PR keen to establish a link in people's minds between the two clubs, when the ethos of the latter is vastly different and when FC United themselves were unaware of the true nature of HFC's private ownership model until they were anonymously tipped off. Similarly, there was originally an extremely misleading wikipedia page clearly seeking to establish a common cause with AFC Wimbledon and fan-owned clubs in general, which disappeared after even some Hereford fans criticised it. If everything is so hunky-dory why all the (undeniably expert) media management and obscuring the truth?

Unfortunately only a few concerned and apparently well-informed Hereford fans seem to be asking questions, despite getting shot down by the fans who "just wanna watch football" and who angrily accuse the dissenters of being trolls who should get with the program. Given the tragedy of HUFC its depressing that some fans don't seem to have learned the importance of never giving private owners a free ride, regardless of conceptions of so-called loyalty to the club, or however wonderful things may appear on the pitch at a particular point in time.

I suspect I will also be accused of trying to "do down the club" by some of the HFC fans on this forum. Nothing could be further from the truth - on the contrary, my experiences as an ECFC fan have taught me that private owners are not synonymous with the club and holding these owners to account is the very opposite of undermining a club and its fans.

 

[Southern Shayman]

What's the craic with your lot and Wembley tickets?

Hearing rumours that rather than waiting for your expanded allocation a good proportion of Bulls fans are just buying slap bang in the middle of our section. Sheer stupidity if true.

 

[B2TF]

Well, We along with other Phoenix clubs in their first season aren't in the FA Cup, and until we've played in the FA Vase or Trophy aren't allowed in the FA Cup. Also, It is the first time any of the Phoenix clubs have gotten to the Vase final, I believe..

Didn't apply to us, deemed a continuation of the old club and hence no different to other clubs whose holding companies went bust, i.e Bristol, Bradford, Middlesbro, Leeds. If we'd still been in the League would have got a 25 point deduction and no more would have been said about it.

Never heard of this FA Vase thing, what is it?

 

[Chris FGR]

Didn't apply to us, deemed a continuation of the old club and hence no different to other clubs whose holding companies went bust, i.e Bristol, Bradford, Middlesbro, Leeds. If we'd still been in the League would have got a 25 point deduction and no more would have been said about it.

Why did you have to have a new name then? And why weren't the new club committed to paying off the old clubs debts, like Darlington (who are a proper continuation in many peoples eyes)?

I call bullshit.

 

[Greenacres]

I thought this was very good:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-35870306

Good luck at Wembley!

 

[B2TF]

Why did you have to have a new name then? And why weren't the new club committed to paying off the old clubs debts, like Darlington (who are a proper continuation in many peoples eyes)?

I call bullshit.

Same reason as Bristol, Bradford. Middlesboro, Leeds and countless other clubs up and down the country - they didn't owe any money. If you've got a problem with any of this, take it up with the FA. Played continuously in the FA cup since 1911, except for 1921 when we forgot to send in the forms. To be fair though we did have bigger fish to fry that year. The Shaymen are for ever.

 

[Chris FGR]

Same reason as Bristol, Bradford. Middlesboro, Leeds and countless other clubs up and down the country - they didn't owe any money.

Why do all official sources list FC Halifax being formed in 2008 then?

And why does it have a different name and badge to the old club? None of Bradford, Boro, Leeds etc had to change their names, nor are they listed as being recently formed. Seems different to me.

And if you didn't owe any money, why did you go bust?

 

[bristolbull]

What's the craic with your lot and Wembley tickets?

Hearing rumours that rather than waiting for your expanded allocation a good proportion of Bulls fans are just buying slap bang in the middle of our section. Sheer stupidity if true.

it would seem the fa ticketing system is allowing both hereford and halifax to buy in the same sections,although on our forum someone has put up a new wembley map showing we have now been given the sections round to halfway behind the goal.the whole thing is turning into a gigantic shambles with the fa being more incompetent than anyone thought possible,they still have not officially told hereford fc that they will/wont be receiving an allocation to sell direct from the club,or even officialy what our allocation actually is,hence people going into panic mode.

 

[Southern Shayman]

it would seem the fa ticketing system is allowing both hereford and halifax to buy in the same sections,although on our forum someone has put up a new wembley map showing we have now been given the sections round to halfway behind the goal.the whole thing is turning into a gigantic shambles with the fa being more incompetent than anyone thought possible,they still have not officially told hereford fc that they will/wont be receiving an allocation to sell direct from the club,or even officialy what our allocation actually is,hence people going into panic mode.

Ah ok. If you replace the words Hereford with Halifax for the second half of that post it's virtually identical from our end. Although there's not the same panic YET as we were under the impression of plenty of tickets and plenty of time...

All this needs is a bit of communication!

 

[B2TF]

Why do all official sources list FC Halifax being formed in 2008 then?

And why does it have a different name and badge to the old club? None of Bradford, Boro, Leeds etc had to change their names, nor are they listed as being recently formed. Seems different to me.

And if you didn't owe any money, why did you go bust?

Ask the FA pal. As far as the FA are concerned, we are a continuation of the old club as stated by the FA at the time and as evidenced by the unbroken entry into the FA Cup. Sorry if the facts don't fit the requirements of your argument but as a Tin Potter your opinion is worth nothing anyway.

 

[GTFCfish]

If it helps this is from our website:

http://mobile.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/article/tickets-update-3018545.aspx

Hereford section is highlighted in orange.

 

[Southern Shayman]

If it helps this is from our website:

http://mobile.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/article/tickets-update-3018545.aspx

Hereford section is highlighted in orange.

That's where the issue lies. They are selling tickets to both Halifax and Hereford fans in the south west part of the blue area.

rather than just taking it off us and giving to them they're just saying sod it and fecking it all up.

 

[Football Purist]

Wembley holds 90,000 for fuck's sake!
Why there should be any kind of restrictions or problems for anyone,whether they follow Halifax,Hereford or are neutral,to get hold of a ticket,is beyond me.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Massive 2-1 win at rivals Alvechurch tonight after Alvechurch missed a late penalty. Now top of the league.

 

[ForeverUnited]

Good game, and for the first time in a long time, I think we will win the league. for 70 minutes we played really well. Sadly, after the penalty it all kicked off and the game was stopped for a while. Shocking stuff, from both sides.

 

[Harrier94]

Good game, and for the first time in a long time, I think we will win the league. for 70 minutes we played really well. Sadly, after the penalty it all kicked off and the game was stopped for a while. Shocking stuff, from both sides.

What happened with the fans? Heard the game was stopped but struggled to find out why. Congrats on the win as well seems like you've got 1 hand on the title now.

 

[SeasideKurt]

I went to the Salisbury v Hereford 2nd leg.

I go quite a bit now considering the state of Blackpool FC.

I feel a bit gutted for the players really, over two legs they didn't perform and the 2nd leg was really really there for the taking. Absolutely battered Hereford in the first half.

Fair play though, your big lad upfront is decent and your fans were superb. Quite a "lad" element there too which made it a good atmosphre.

All the best at Wembley.

 

[ForeverUnited]

What happened with the fans? Heard the game was stopped but struggled to find out why. Congrats on the win as well seems like you've got 1 hand on the title now.

There was a Smoke bomb after we scored the 2nd, then they had a penalty late on, which was saved which caused maybe a dozen or so to run on the pitch during play. Then not long after, not sure what really caused it all to kick off, various reports. But the metal fences were being thrown around, some wanker came from the other side of the pitch to join in. Their management got involved as well. If you're on facebook, its all on the hereford fc 2015 group, videos etc. Not good. https://www.facebook.com/100008231566600/videos/g.526941267431943/1727060087578360/?type=2&theater link to the video mate.

Still a lot of games to be played, if we beat Brocton tomorrow, and win our game in hand against bottom of the league Continental Star Wednesday, then we would by 4 points clear, but due to the amount of games we have to play certainly not over yet. in a few weeks we play Sat,tues,thurs,sat,mon,thurs,sat. Thursday games are in the semi final of the Midland league cup. Amazing to think we could win every competition we entered this season, incredible.

 

[dalts]

It started just a few yards away from highgate united player lei brown who has been involved in several incidents already this season. From what I saw, they instigated it and Hereford fans retaliated as you would expect after being attacked.

 

[Tivvyultras]

I'm looking forward to having Hereford in the the southern leauge div 1 S&W next year should be a good craic

 

[David Curries Mullet]

Thought we'd dropped far, but Continental Star Wednesday!

 

[The_Boss]

I just thought they were playing on a Wednesday!!!

 

[dalts]

Went 1-0 down as well! Eventually won 5-1 going 7 points clear with 5 to play, Alvechurch have 6 to play.

 

[bristolbull]

I'm looking forward to having Hereford in the the southern leauge div 1 S&W next year should be a good craic

should we get into the s/west div,what kind of followings can we expect to see,only a couple have managed over 10/20 in the mid league,how much better are the grounds compared to step 5.