Is Brendan Rogers position under threat ?

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I don't understand why they would sack him. He almost led Liverpool to a title win last season. This season was surely one to forget and they've only ever looked solid in the second half of the season in the Premier League only. Rodgers has shown he isn't stubborn like Martinez, and while I think its time for another strategy change, I think he's not entirely all to blame.

What he is to blame, is the money he spent over the summer. Balotelli was a good striker prior to his Liverpool days, but he was never going to fill Suarez' shoes.
 

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No I think he is still safe mainly because of what he did last season but I don't see how Liverpool can attract genuine A-list talent to take them to the next level, because City and United can compensate for geographical issues but Liverpool can't/won't pay over the top for the best talent and therefore they will be left bidding for players that the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, United and City don't want
 

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So its confirmed, yet another trophyless season, if Carlsberg did FA Cup semi finals :D
 

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Still don't think he should go, don't think there's good enough managers they can realistically get in the market, and I think Manchester City will land Jurgen Klopp so it's not worth the risk for Liverpool to sack him.
 

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Hmm. Not sure if they'd be right to sack him, but they might actually be thinking about it now. Depends on how important a) participating in the Champions League and b) the domestic cups are to FSG. This was always going to be a tough season but they have blown it in the big games and they should have made the cup final at least, with their draw. They seemed to be going in the right direction a month or so ago, but they're definitely not anymore.
 

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If Rogers were to get sacked. I think Liverpool should go for Christophe Galtier. Funnily enough, he's just said managing Liverpool would be a dream.
 

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Not his fault his players fail to fire in the big games. They'd be mad to sack him. He is a very, very good young manager. The way people are going on about Klopp taking over you'd think the guy had a magic wand. Klopp would jump at the chance though, no matter how people try and dress it up. He's not going to City either, think people are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 with that.
 

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If Rogers were to get sacked. I think Liverpool should go for Christophe Galtier. Funnily enough, he's just said managing Liverpool would be a dream.
They'd be out of their minds to go for an unproven French manager who hasn't even done all that much in his home country. Galtier is more likely for a Newcastle or a West Ham.
 
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Not his fault his players fail to fire in the big games. They'd be mad to sack him. He is a very, very good young manager. The way people are going on about Klopp taking over you'd think the guy had a magic wand. Klopp would jump at the chance though, no matter how people try and dress it up. He's not going to City either, think people are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 with that.

City will hire Ancelotti when Madrid stupidly sack him.
 

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Liverpool's success last year was largely due to Suarez and Sturridge. They sold Suarez and Sturridge has been injured for most of the season, so it's no great surprise they've struggled.

Some people will try and lay the blame for the Suarez situation on Rodgers, ie, not replacing Suarez properly, and to a point I get that. It's a manager's job to make suitable signings and so if his transfers don't work out then he should shoulder some of the responsibility. But let's keep things in perspective; in an ideal world, Rodgers would have been able to keep Suarez. The decision to sell him was essentially out of his hands.

People will also argue that he should have reinvested the money more wisely and done a better job replacing Suarez, but the honest truth is that there are probably only 4/5 players on the planet who could have replaced what Suarez did for Liverpool, and none of them were ever going to Liverpool. Replacing Suarez was an impossible task, not because of money, but because he was one of the best players in the world, and you don't easily replace the best.

You can certainly argue that Rodgers could have done better this year, but all things considered, Liverpool were always going to struggle and I think he's done a reasonable job. I certainly think he's done enough to warrant keeping his job.
 

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If Liverpool and City both wanted Klopp, without a doubt Klopp would choose Liverpool. He has stated his admiration for Liverpool both publicly and privately.
 

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We're in limbo, and i'm not sure sacking Rodgers would be the solution. He's a good manager, he's proven that multiple times in the last 3 years but he also has some glaring weaknesses, most notably his inability to get the best out of his team and players in big games. But i'm sick and tired of "rebuilding" phases so unless Klopp actually wants the job, i think we should stick to Rodgers.
 

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Liverpool's success last year was largely due to Suarez and Sturridge. They sold Suarez and Sturridge has been injured for most of the season, so it's no great surprise they've struggled.

Some people will try and lay the blame for the Suarez situation on Rodgers, ie, not replacing Suarez properly, and to a point I get that. It's a manager's job to make suitable signings and so if his transfers don't work out then he should shoulder some of the responsibility. But let's keep things in perspective; in an ideal world, Rodgers would have been able to keep Suarez. The decision to sell him was essentially out of his hands.

People will also argue that he should have reinvested the money more wisely and done a better job replacing Suarez, but the honest truth is that there are probably only 4/5 players on the planet who could have replaced what Suarez did for Liverpool, and none of them were ever going to Liverpool. Replacing Suarez was an impossible task, not because of money, but because he was one of the best players in the world, and you don't easily replace the best.

You can certainly argue that Rodgers could have done better this year, but all things considered, Liverpool were always going to struggle and I think he's done a reasonable job. I certainly think he's done enough to warrant keeping his job.

Yeah this. Rodgers isn't perfect but he's a damn sight more suited to the job than some of the club's most recent managers. Even if he does pat himself on the back fairly often, he's young, forward thinking, I like the way he's not afraid to be bold in his selection. Terrible run of form, revert to 3 at the back. The other week, he played a false 9 as well I think. He's also had to be pretty bold in leaving Balotelli out and with little sulking antics as a result. I know, he should never have bought him but I do completely understand why he did. You're losing Suarez, you dont have the lure of a World Class replacement yet Balotelli is a big name and somewhat of an enigma. Rodgers probably thought he could take on the challenge of taming him. He'll learn from that.

However, Rodgers does need to get it right in the summer. If he doesn't your Coutinhos and Sterlings won't be hanging around for very long. Whilst I rate him as a decent young manager regardless, it's a make or break summer for him in the job.
 

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Yeah this. Rodgers isn't perfect but he's a damn sight more suited to the job than some of the club's most recent managers. Even if he does pat himself on the back fairly often, he's young, forward thinking, I like the way he's not afraid to be bold in his selection. Terrible run of form, revert to 3 at the back. The other week, he played a false 9 as well I think. He's also had to be pretty bold in leaving Balotelli out and with little sulking antics as a result. I know, he should never have bought him but I do completely understand why he did. You're losing Suarez, you dont have the lure of a World Class replacement yet Balotelli is a big name and somewhat of an enigma. Rodgers probably thought he could take on the challenge of taming him. He'll learn from that.

However, Rodgers does need to get it right in the summer. If he doesn't your Coutinhos and Sterlings won't be hanging around for very long. Whilst I rate him as a decent young manager regardless, it's a make or break summer for him in the job.
Agreed with most of the above, although i do think Sterling will leave, there are rumors that he's even thinking about buying out the rest of his contract to leave for free.

I like how Rodgers always tinkers with the system, but he can overdo it. We changed formations 3 times in the first half yesterday, and in the end we ended up reverting to the same formation that could barely get us a win at the beginning of the season; Skrtel and Lovren and the back with Gerrard as the deep lying playmaker. I thought that was just retarded.
 
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His signings alone should have him in hot water...

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When he said at the press conference yesterday that he felt Liverpool lost because 'sometimes players want to win that little bit too much' :flint:
 

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His signings alone should have him in hot water...

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This list is amazing. Which players would Liverpool have their money back on if they could? You would probably argue all but Can who looks a very good player. Liverpool fans which ones would you keep?
 

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Apart from Lambert, Balotelli and Manquillo I would keep everyone.
 

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This list is amazing. Which players would Liverpool have their money back on if they could? You would probably argue all but Can who looks a very good player. Liverpool fans which ones would you keep?
Markovic has shown flashes of quality but needs more time. Hes only 21. Lallana has looked really good at times but can't go 20 minutes without an injury. My problem with those signings is more to do with the size of the fee than the purchase themselves.

Lovren just really, really hasn't worked out. Moreno looks good sometimes and awful others (yesterday particularly). Its difficult to be positive about Origi from what I've read about his performances from France. Also sounds a bit of a shit as well which doesn't help. I'm not convinced Manquillo is good enough.

The "transfer committee" system is in use at Liverpool so I'm not entirely convinced the signings can be used as a stick to beat Rodgers with. He clearly didn't want Balotelli and its pretty obvious FSG wouldn't give sole purchasing power to one man anyway. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he was simply given all those players and told to get on with it but I don't think all those names were on a list written by Rodgers at the end of last season.

I'd happily have him for another season, unless Klopp wants the job. Until three weeks ago we were in a really positive position and Rodgers was being written about in the media as a "renaissance man", a man "not afraid to change" etc. We've choked in the big games and theres no getting away from that but I do think he can turn it around.
 

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When he said at the press conference yesterday that he felt Liverpool lost because 'sometimes players want to win that little bit too much' :flint:
If he means they can feel so under pressure to win they end up choking, not doing the simple things properly, or forgetting the game plan, I know what he's getting at. But he's blaming his players, and while they were rubbish yesterday, it wasn't just their fault. My reading of it was that Rodgers panicked. No relaxed manager changes system so many times or makes such strange personnel decisions. Gerrard should never have played the 90 minutes, making a half-time substitution at 1-1, throwing Glen Johnson on when trailing, and then Lambert with only injury time to play... none of these made a lot of sense. He was throwing shit at a wall.
 
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His signings alone should have him in hot water...

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+£30mil on Alberto, Aspas, Mignolet and Llori the season before. And another £28mil on Borini, Allen and Assaidi the season before that. Bloke sure loves wasting the clubs money. He's only made a couple of genuinely good signings in 3 years.
 

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How directly involved is Rodgers with transfers?

He's one of the best young managers around, his greatest flaw not being much of a pragmatist. He needs to adapt quickly to get results no matter the compromise to his "philosophy." Time isn't out, but it is certainly ticking.
 

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Well, one would assume the club aren't forcing the manager to take players on he doesn't want.
 

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...brendan-rodgers-liverpool-fc-transfer-7185770

Rodgers must secure the agreement of the committee that a player meets the club’s requirements and is worth pursuing.

However, the boss says the input of Ayre, Fallows and Edwards is a help rather than a hindrance in the recruitment process.

“Obviously, I am involved heavily in the identification of the player,” Rodgers told the ECHO.

“The principle idea when I first came in was that like any manager you will have the first call on a player and the last call.

“That’s the call on whether he’s good enough to continue to look at and try to organise a deal and the last call to say yes or no.

“There is a big part that goes on in between. In modern football you need to trust other people to do the work. That’s something we do here and that’s why we have had the success we’ve had.

“The finer details of that are left to Ian who does a terrific job and our other guys in that field who will go through the contracts. I am aware of where the situation is at right the way through the process.

“We will never bring in a player here who the manager doesn’t want in. That’s a great credit to the owners and the other people at the club.

“We work very closely together – it’s worth stressing that. It’s key that we are very much one club."
 

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