Is Brendan Rogers position under threat ?

[merseyboyred]

Balotelli's been by far the biggest failure, getting that forward signing wrong has cost us the most by an absolute mile. That was a committee driven signing rather than from Rodgers, he was dead set against him until other options went away.

 

[G.B]

So that's the "he didn't even want Balo" argument dead then.

 

[merseyboyred]

More like he had no option but to have him.

 

[Renegade]

If Klopp is an option, then Liverpool should absolutely pursue him, managers of his ability, track record and integrity do not come along often, but otherwise Rodgers is a very talented manager who should be given time. They play very attractive football, he's adaptable with his tactics and they feel more relevant at the top of the Premier League with him in charge.

He's blown it with his transfers, but I have some sympathy for him. After selling Suarez, there was pressure to spend that money and the club didn't do their due diligence when it came to scouting. It cost Villas Boas his job at Spurs and it could ultimately cost Rodgers' his at Liverpool. Two of the best young managers in world football - they should be afforded the time to succeed.

Not really sure what Stocky has against Klopp, he doesn't have a magic wand, but what he's done at Dortmund has been pretty magical. Transformed the club into a European contender, won back to back leagues against the only side with all the resources in Germany. One bad season (in which he lost key players and doesn't seem to have his heart in it any more) doesn't detract that his achievements in the past five years hold up with any other manager in the world. Whilst I'm a big fan of Rodgers, he can't compete with that, if that actually is an option.

 

[G.B]

More like he had no option but to have him.

How so mate? He has the first and last call on player aquisitions.

 

[Christian Slater]

Should have taken the gamble on Remy.

 

[merseyboyred]

How so mate? He has the first and last call on player aquisitions.

The only anything like half-decent striker left! Without him we'd have had none. From what goes on as well, I'd assume the committee structure has more say in who we can target then he'd like to have let on, hence why no actual interest in Bony etc.

I'd agree with CS above, take the gamble on Remy. I still understand why the club didn't but it does look a really poor decision.

 

[G.B]

Oh yeah, I forgot you lot passed on Remy in the summer. How long is Balo's deal out of interest? He's going to be almost impossible to move on.

 

[Toffee_Joe]

The only anything like half-decent striker left! Without him we'd have had none. From what goes on as well, I'd assume the committee structure has more say in who we can target then he'd like to have let on, hence why no actual interest in Bony etc.

I'd agree with CS above, take the gamble on Remy. I still understand why the club didn't but it does look a really poor decision.

Bony was still available for starters. Bad management to be left with only one option on the board when you are desperate anyway.

 

[Stocky]

So without having a decent striker all season (with Sturridge injured for what seems like 90-95% of it) he's managed to be in a top four hunt, and two cup Semi finals. His team have also played a lot of games this year. He's a very good coach and a good man manager. The signings he or this committee have made are ultimatley the big fuck up. But for me, Liverpool have still looked a good, functioning side for most of the season and that is solely down to Rodgers. His bold decision to change to 3 at the back moved them back into a top four hunt and a cup semi final. They were awful at the start of the season with all the changes they had to bed in and lesser managers would have caved in.

 

[merseyboyred]

Oh yeah, I forgot you lot passed on Remy in the summer. How long is Balo's deal out of interest? He's going to be almost impossible to move on.

Another 3 years. At this point I'd suggest he starts brushing up his Russian or Turkish.

Bony was still available for starters. Bad management to be left with only one option on the board when you are desperate anyway.

I assume you just read the first line? Plus he was at best 3rd choice, but the first two didn't work out for varying reasons.

 

[Toffee_Joe]

I assume you just read the first line? Plus he was at best 3rd choice, but the first two didn't work out for varying reasons.

"The only anything like half-decent striker left!" Bony is more than half decent and would be your best player.

 

[smat]

Thought Balotelli looked like one of Liverpool's more redeemable players yesterday. Not that he suits Rodgers' playing preferences or owt.

 

[Nilsson]

He's been managing Liverpool for three years and not won a single trophy with them. That is pathetic, especially when you consider how much money he's spent. Fair play he got them back into them CL for a season, but that turned out to be an almighty embarrassment, exiting the competition at the group stage.

I like how he eventually always seems to find a system that works for his squad but he gets far too many big, defining games completely wrong. He's still young so he may improve but if Klopp shows genuine interest in the job I think they should do everything they can to get him, let Rodgers try to better his craft at a club with less ambition/expectation.

 

[merseyboyred]

"The only anything like half-decent striker left!" Bony is more than half decent and would be your best player.

So you didn't read beyond the first line.

Thought Balotelli looked like one of Liverpool's more redeemable players yesterday. Not that he suits Rodgers' playing preferences or owt.

Aye, he was. He was one of the few not to freeze, what he does have is the type of winning experience we lack through a lot of the squad. Did run offside a lot, seemingly every time bar for the goal that wasn't!

 

[Stocky]

Balotelli is a total, waste of time. Rodgers knows it.

Another factor about this 3 years, no trophy shite. The team Rodgers inherited from Dalglish was in my in opinion the worst Liverpool team I have ever seen. He had it much harder than some.

 

[Spear]

You wouldn't think so to listen to the fans though ?

 

[Pyeman]

However, Rodgers does need to get it right in the summer. If he doesn't your Coutinhos and Sterlings won't be hanging around for very long. Whilst I rate him as a decent young manager regardless, it's a make or break summer for him in the job.

Yeah definitely. It was incredibly difficult to replace Suarez, but his attempt wasn't great. Another summer like last and he'll be in trouble.



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[Humongous Fungus]

Suarez being a King Kenny signing of course.

 

[Nilsson]

Another factor about this 3 years, no trophy shite. The team Rodgers inherited from Dalglish was in my in opinion the worst Liverpool team I have ever seen. He had it much harder than some.

Dalglish still managed to win a trophy. And Rodgers inherited Luis Suarez and has been given more than enough money to replace whoever he wants, he can have no complaints in that regard imo.

 

[Whitechapel]

If you spend £211million then you should have a squad which wins something, even a League Cup would count, only just.

 

[Smally]

I think he will have next season to win something, if he doesn't then his time could be up. He really needs to get his transfers right this summer though, it's been a major flaw for Rodgers since he went to Liverpool

 

[Jarv]

I don't think he'll be sacked but he wont finish next season.

 

[Orion]

Its 50:50 that he's going to be sacked, and it would be sad to see him go in my opinion. He's a great manager, but his squad has let him down this season. Some of his signings have dropped way below where they were last season (Lovren, Lallana, Balotelli, to name a few). His top striker has spent more than half the season injured. Gerrard pretty much abandoned the team this season, he's been poor when he's played, and he was more interested in setting himself up for next season in the MLS than giving Liverpool one more good season. It's been difficult, and in many ways it's not far from what happened with Man United last season. The difference for me though is that while Moyes seemingly had no long term plan, there is always a long term plan with Rodgers that he wants the team to play a particular brand of football. The players just haven't performed for him.

Think Klopp is a great manager, and him being available may push Rodgers out, but personally I don't think it should.

 

[Kopper]

If you spend £211million then you should have a squad which wins something, even a League Cup would count, only just.

Manchester United have spent £247m over the last two season and have won nothing.

 

[sl1k]

Looking past his Lizard-y features and annoying use of phrases ( ), I think Brodge has shown signs that he could become a really good manager down the line. He was under quite some pressure early in the season but had balls to pro-actively tinker with positions and systems to try get the best out of the players available. The recruitment though was very, very poor in the summer and that pretty much stalled - arguably reversed even - any progress the club had made. I just don't get how Liverpool allowed themselves to reach the point where Balotelli became the only real option for replacing an irreplacable Suarez Brodge (lol that just sounds so terrible to say out loud) then thought he can somehow sprinkle some sorta fairy dust on Balo n poof, he'd change into a pressing from the front, shifting defenders about, lone striker.

:hesk:

This season will surely be a wake up call for him though as I do feel Suarez made him feel he was some sort of football genius. Not quite there yet, Brodgey

 

[Whitechapel]

Manchester United have spent £247m over the last two season and have won nothing.

That's true. When LvG's tenure hits the 3rd season without silverware then your point will be valid. Even more so given the fact we can guarantee he'd have spent a lot more by then.

 

[Orion]

Looking past his Lizard-y features and annoying use of phrases ( ), I think Brodge has shown signs that he could become a really good manager down the line. He was under quite some pressure early in the season but had balls to pro-actively tinker with positions and systems to try get the best out of the players available. The recruitment though was very, very poor in the summer and that pretty much stalled - arguably reversed even - any progress the club had made. I just don't get how Liverpool allowed themselves to reach the point where Balotelli became the only real option for replacing an irreplacable Suarez Brodge (lol that just sounds so terrible to say out loud) then thought he can somehow sprinkle some sorta fairy dust on Balo n poof, he'd change into a pressing from the front, shifting defenders about, lone striker.

In his defence, I don't think Balo was ever considered a like for like replacement. At the time, Balo had been scoring for fun in Italy. Lallana, Lambert and Lovren had pushed Southampton from relegation candidates to a genuine top half team. Can, Markovic and Moreno were all performing well, with potential to become something special. But, similar to what happened with Spurs last season, the new players haven't performed for him. What's worse is that the stars of last season, Sturridge and Sterling, have also not delivered, with Sturridge not being fit for most of the season and Sterling feeling the pressure of having to carry Liverpool's hopes. It's a rebuilding process, and it's going to take time to recover from losing the players they've lost in the last few years.

 

[thespus]

Balotelli had been scoring for fun in Italy?

 

[Orion]

Balotelli had been scoring for fun in Italy?

30 goals in 54 games for Milan. Better goals/games ratio than he had at City. Was good enough to see him become first choice striker for Italy.