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Club has just announced a new two year shirt sponsorship deal but hav'nt said with who, i think with the state of our pitch it could very well be british dredging.
 

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I'm not sure this is the right thread but we sure like discussing playing budgets on this forum don't we Conker? ;)

I did hear a couple of 'interesting'/'that's bollox' (delete where applicable) playing budget related stuff this morning but I don't believe every single thing I hear and nor should anybody else.

Anyway, I hear that Orient's P.B. this season is and I quote 'comfortably' a top 5 one. The other relates to Morecambe of all clubs, and my sauce tells me he believes they no longer have one of the smallest budgets in the division but more like a mid table one.

As to what I personally think, I think there's probably some truth in the Orient's claim but there's no way the Morecambe one is factual.
 

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I'm not sure this is the right thread but we sure like discussing playing budgets on this forum don't we Conker? ;)

I did hear a couple of 'interesting'/'that's bollox' (delete where applicable) playing budget related stuff this morning but I don't believe every single thing I hear and nor should anybody else.

Anyway, I hear that Orient's P.B. this season is and I quote 'comfortably' a top 5 one. The other relates to Morecambe of all clubs, and my sauce tells me he believes they no longer have one of the smallest budgets in the division but more like a mid table one.

As to what I personally think, I think there's probably some truth in the Orient's claim but there's no way the Morecambe one is factual.
Is this for this current season....Or going forward
Was the not a much of a muchness this season with the cap??
 

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Is this for this current season....Or going forward
Was the not a much of a muchness this season with the cap??

For this season. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that never really believed the salary cap guff. There's a number of ways to go above the cap if one so desires. Same goes for most other things in life (financially speaking) every time there's some sort of cap/limit. Always has and always will be.
 

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For this season. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that never really believed the salary cap guff. There's a number of ways to go above the cap if one so desires. Same goes for most other things in life (financially speaking) every time there's some sort of cap/limit. Always has and always will be.
Agreed We made 5 signings before the cap came into place. Some big hitters for this league anyway.
Can see fees/wages offered to be significantly less this coming Summer
 

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I'm not sure this is the right thread but we sure like discussing playing budgets on this forum don't we Conker? ;)

I did hear a couple of 'interesting'/'that's bollox' (delete where applicable) playing budget related stuff this morning but I don't believe every single thing I hear and nor should anybody else.

Anyway, I hear that Orient's P.B. this season is and I quote 'comfortably' a top 5 one. The other relates to Morecambe of all clubs, and my sauce tells me he believes they no longer have one of the smallest budgets in the division but more like a mid table one.

As to what I personally think, I think there's probably some truth in the Orient's claim but there's no way the Morecambe one is factual.

Love to see it don’t you.
 

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For this season. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that never really believed the salary cap guff. There's a number of ways to go above the cap if one so desires. Same goes for most other things in life (financially speaking) every time there's some sort of cap/limit. Always has and always will be.
Bonuses weren't included if i recall correctly. That can make a huge difference.
 

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In the interesting stat (or not) field.

Grimsby have 1/3 of their wins against Crawley this season.

I wonder why Crawley will not make the play offs?

Casey
 

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Home games v Bradford and Orient have been switched to the Cardiff City Stadium, then we revert back to RP from Scunthorpe on 27/03 onwards. Don't see the point really as Dragons have 3 home games this month so pitch is gonna be well and truly fucked for April's home games. Unless we carry on at CCS next month.
 

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Home games v Bradford and Orient have been switched to the Cardiff City Stadium, then we revert back to RP from Scunthorpe on 27/03 onwards. Don't see the point really as Dragons have 3 home games this month so pitch is gonna be well and truly fucked for April's home games. Unless we carry on at CCS next month.
Wish they had moved to Cardiff before game against FGR.
We have lost 2 games out of 3 since then and all because of injuries picked up at Newport.
 

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I’ve had enough of Newport bloody pitch, surely it comes to a point where it’s just unacceptable year on year in a professional league?
gone fishing lol

No ones biting on this one !!
 

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Wish they had moved to Cardiff before game against FGR.
We have lost 2 games out of 3 since then and all because of injuries picked up at Newport.
Cardiff city offered us a groundshare at xmas! which we were ready to accept, then the efl stepped in and refused us permission to do so saying the rodney parade pitch was at a well acceptable standard for l2 football, so dont blame the pitch for your injuries blame the efl.
 

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For anyone interested the long-term solution for the groundshare is that one of the rugby teams, Newport RFC, moves away from RP to play its matches. That's what the Dragons are pushing for but this won't be easy as RP is Newport RFC's spiritual home. A lot of politics to resolve to achieve this. Until this happens we are just limping along.
At the moment we have a regional rugby franchise based in Newport, the Dragons, who nobody supports. It's not called Newport so nobody in Newport is behind it and likewise nobody in greater Gwent supports it as they play in Newport. Everyone is disenfranchised, all very parochial sadly.
The only glimmer is that this week the Blues rugby franchise who play out of Cardiff have cut the shit and called a spade a spade by returning to their proper name of Cardiff Rugby and will be playing in their traditional kit of blue and black. Precedent set therefore for the Dragons to become Newport Rugby and play in black and amber. Hope is that people of Newport will get behind the franchise so that the opposition to the semi-pro Newport RFC leaving RP will fade away.
That then leaves us to agree a long-term lease at RP, sharing with one rugby team just like Swansea, Bristol City etc and for another hybrid pitch to be laid, which should last a season with only County and Newport Rugby playing on it.
There are actually fewer games being played on RP this season because Newport RFC's season has been cancelled, however, the Dragons are desperate for money so agreed for Wales Women football and the Blues rugby to play last autumn, which wrecked an already fucked pitch. Had these extra games not been played then I doubt the pitch would be as bad as it is now.
Pitch should have been laid last summer in fairness as the existing hybrid surface was due to be replaced but was shelved due to Covid.
Couldn't agree more that the RP pitch is shit and not fit for purpose. Just surprised nobody has suffered a serious injury on it. While we take the Bradford and Orient games to Cardiff the Dragons will be playing 3 games at RP so the surface won't get any better. In fact, I will be surprised if its just the 2 games we will play at CCS this season. Our Scunthorpe home game can't be played at CCS as Wales are playing Mexico there that day.
 

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gone fishing lol

No ones biting on this one !!

I think the fact that you thought that was fishing shows how poorly you understand what it actually is!
 

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For anyone interested the long-term solution for the groundshare is that one of the rugby teams, Newport RFC, moves away from RP to play its matches. That's what the Dragons are pushing for but this won't be easy as RP is Newport RFC's spiritual home. A lot of politics to resolve to achieve this. Until this happens we are just limping along.
At the moment we have a regional rugby franchise based in Newport, the Dragons, who nobody supports. It's not called Newport so nobody in Newport is behind it and likewise nobody in greater Gwent supports it as they play in Newport. Everyone is disenfranchised, all very parochial sadly.
The only glimmer is that this week the Blues rugby franchise who play out of Cardiff have cut the shit and called a spade a spade by returning to their proper name of Cardiff Rugby and will be playing in their traditional kit of blue and black. Precedent set therefore for the Dragons to become Newport Rugby and play in black and amber. Hope is that people of Newport will get behind the franchise so that the opposition to the semi-pro Newport RFC leaving RP will fade away.
That then leaves us to agree a long-term lease at RP, sharing with one rugby team just like Swansea, Bristol City etc and for another hybrid pitch to be laid, which should last a season with only County and Newport Rugby playing on it.
There are actually fewer games being played on RP this season because Newport RFC's season has been cancelled, however, the Dragons are desperate for money so agreed for Wales Women football and the Blues rugby to play last autumn, which wrecked an already fucked pitch. Had these extra games not been played then I doubt the pitch would be as bad as it is now.
Pitch should have been laid last summer in fairness as the existing hybrid surface was due to be replaced but was shelved due to Covid.
Couldn't agree more that the RP pitch is shit and not fit for purpose. Just surprised nobody has suffered a serious injury on it. While we take the Bradford and Orient games to Cardiff the Dragons will be playing 3 games at RP so the surface won't get any better. In fact, I will be surprised if its just the 2 games we will play at CCS this season. Our Scunthorpe home game can't be played at CCS as Wales are playing Mexico there that day.
Given there's no fans, why weren't Newport able to use Spytty Park? At least you'd still be in Newport for home games.
 

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Given there's no fans, why weren't Newport able to use Spytty Park? At least you'd still be in Newport for home games.
As I understand it this has been considered, however, even though the pitch there is in decent nick there is no Covid compliance in place and none of the off-field stuff to support things like iFollow. Clearly all of these things are present at CCS. With no fans don't think there is too much of an issue playing in Cardiff - shudder.
 

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I think the fact that you thought that was fishing shows how poorly you understand what it actually is!
Parts of the Trent hold less water than your pitch.

The is a saying those in fish tanks should not throw stones
 

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Parts of the Trent hold less water than your pitch.

The is a saying those in fish tanks should not throw stones

That’s a one off this season and it’s still significantly better than Newports, so yeah you are way off marra.
 

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I’ve had enough of Newport bloody pitch, surely it comes to a point where it’s just unacceptable year on year in a professional league?

Tbf, other clubs only to play on it once. Newport have to play on it every other week. Must be pretty demoralising for the players and fans. Seems to have fucked them more then usual this year, given they've built a footballing side that can't seem to handle that pitch.
 

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Tbf, other clubs only to play on it once. Newport have to play on it every other week. Must be pretty demoralising for the players and fans. Seems to have fucked them more then usual this year, given they've built a footballing side that can't seem to handle that pitch.
In fairness Mansfield have probably endured the RP surface more than any other away team. Conference 12/13 and EFL2 ever since plus a play-off semi. Just re-watched the play-off semi at RP and pitch condition was good at the end of the 18/19 season.
 

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Tbf, other clubs only to play on it once. Newport have to play on it every other week. Must be pretty demoralising for the players and fans. Seems to have fucked them more then usual this year, given they've built a footballing side that can't seem to handle that pitch.

I agree, I’m not particularly looking at it from Mansfield perspective, I just think it’s such a long ongoing thing and it affects every side in the division ultimately.

Loads of problems throughout the leagues this season for obvious reasons, but it’s also obvious that Newport current arrangement cannot last.
 

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