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Good information there Devonlad.... I have no clue how your Centre Forward went on pre season......You must be a Closet Wanderer.....come out you will feel a whole lot better
When you had an argument saying he was doing wonders pre season a few weeks ago I looked it up and posted it to discredit your nonsense. Short memory?
 

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Haha thats made my day......Give your head a shake they are you and Devonlad in disguise
FFS some desperate fans out there


Ben Russlin..........Theres a proper Country yokal name
That’s your lot you twat. Not recognise your own logo
 

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Our wage budget will be about £2mil this season which whilst is still at the higher end of the division, we have the finances to see the season out with no fans coming through the door.

We got a further £1mil investment in March from our Indonesian investors and whilst £700k went on the pitch, the other £300k has been kept back to deal with the crisis. That’s to add to the £2.5mil we got from them back in September. We also got a quarter of a million for Micky Mellon heading to Dundee United so immediately there’s over half a million we’ve got covered which is a substantial amount in the current environment (Effectively reduces the wage bill from 2mil to 1.5mil already in terms of funds needed)
Finally, a reasoned response from a Tranmere fan. Have added this information to your dossier and downgraded your status from High Risk to Risky.
Which is exactly what I was telling you from the outset. You’ve got the Bradford version.
On the other hand, got a very good mate who is a Blackpool fan and he's been impressed with Jerry Yates so far.
 

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I think the wages cap, and how one gets around it, will be a largely academic problem this year. What matters is income. If there are no spectators until at least March quite a few clubs will not be viable - they simply won’t be getting enough money in to cover their committed wages. A few clubs will have owners who can out the money in, though if they are loans and not equity this is merely moving the date of the day of reckoning. Some will have reserves in a piggy bank or player sales. A few might have been innovative enough to raise reasonable chunks from new sources. A very select few may get a reasonable chunk in from iFollow. But most won’t.
 

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Yes. We have only made six permanent signings and eleven players have left (you missed Danns and Potter off your list), the players we retained are on significantly reduced terms, and we had numerous senior players on loan last season, most on very good wages (Vaughan, Cook, Woodyard, Clarke).

Our squad size has reduced from thirty to twenty.

Forgot the forgettable Ishmael Miller, plus Jordan Ponticelli, Kane Wilson, Borthwick Jackson, Hepburn Murphy, Jacob Maddox,Chapman and Morgan Feeney.
 

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I think the wages cap, and how one gets around it, will be a largely academic problem this year. What matters is income. If there are no spectators until at least March quite a few clubs will not be viable - they simply won’t be getting enough money in to cover their committed wages. A few clubs will have owners who can out the money in, though if they are loans and not equity this is merely moving the date of the day of reckoning. Some will have reserves in a piggy bank or player sales. A few might have been innovative enough to raise reasonable chunks from new sources. A very select few may get a reasonable chunk in from iFollow. But most won’t.
What matters is your sugar daddy has already said he's not putting another penny in. What you gunna do?
 

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What matters is your sugar daddy has already said he's not putting another penny in. What you gunna do?
Another cheap dig at another clubs financial woes
 

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Nightmare for Morecambe.

4-0 down and playing with 10 men and it's not half time yet!
 

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Think the Morecambe defence needs to go for a COVID test after shipping 12 goals in less than a week. At home too.
 

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Letting big Joe Linton score two is an embarrassment.
 

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League Two side Morecombe had only 10 players on their side for two thirds of the match and lost to Premier League side Newcastle United. That doesn't say much of anything at all. I fully expect them to come to Roots Hall with 11 players all 90 minutes and defeat us.
 

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We're back in training next Tuesday - Although there are a few players whom are self isolating in line with government guidlines and won't be back until after our home game with Cheltenham on 3rd October - No names or numbers given.

I'd say we're likely to be back playing on the 3rd October, but we're gonna lose all the momentum we've built up in our opening games. Our 2020 unbeaten home run is at risk now.
 

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Money UK have estimated the losses incurred by L2 clubs if the season continues without fans.

Bolton are the biggest losers. Without fans, newly relegated Bolton Wanderers are set to lose £186,700 per game and £4,107,389 if this rule lasts all season.
 

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Think the triangle that time stood still..Carlisle Barrow and Morecambe
Money UK have estimated the losses incurred by L2 clubs if the season continues without fans.

Bolton are the biggest losers. Without fans, newly relegated Bolton Wanderers are set to lose £186,700 per game and £4,107,389 if this rule lasts all season.
That may be correct. That will proberbly be based on a average gate of 10000.......The thing Dan is, if the premier lge go off those figures in the way they compensate each team we will get the biggest handout.
 

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Money UK have estimated the losses incurred by L2 clubs if the season continues without fans.

Bolton are the biggest losers. Without fans, newly relegated Bolton Wanderers are set to lose £186,700 per game and £4,107,389 if this rule lasts all season.

Does that take into account the income from iFollow? I believe we've been one of the highest in the league for income through that but appreciate it's a bit of a drop in the ocean. What is nice though is our ability to generate income from away games through iFollow, that'll help offset some of the losses.
 

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Does that take into account the income from iFollow? I believe we've been one of the highest in the league for income through that but appreciate it's a bit of a drop in the ocean. What is nice though is our ability to generate income from away games through iFollow, that'll help offset some of the losses.
I assume it's just average attendance x average ticket price to get a simple figure.
 

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Not picking on Bolton specifically cos it affects every club. Bolton who would ordinarily have expected the highest average attendance obviously lose most - although the effects will differ according to each club’s financial state.
 

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Think the triangle that time stood still..Carlisle Barrow and Morecambe

That may be correct. That will proberbly be based on a average gate of 10000.......The thing Dan is, if the premier lge go off those figures in the way they compensate each team we will get the biggest handout.
I don’t think clubs will be handed a lump of money, no questions asked. I’d imagine there would be a central fund held by the EFL that clubs have to apply for a grant on production of certain financial information being given. No way will it be allowed for wages/signings for new players.
 

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Not picking on Bolton specifically cos it affects every club. Bolton who would ordinarily have expected the highest average attendance obviously lose most - although the effects will differ according to each club’s financial state.
I dont think the will be a solution that will make all clubs happy. Salford really do not need extra funding,and Wigan will need every penny they can get. Without it some clubs will certainly fold.
 

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Money UK have estimated the losses incurred by L2 clubs if the season continues without fans.

Bolton are the biggest losers. Without fans, newly relegated Bolton Wanderers are set to lose £186,700 per game and £4,107,389 if this rule lasts all season.

Assuming this is the chart you're referring to it then the formula is complete nonsense - the losses they've calculated are the total capacity multiplied by the cost of a 'pint and pie'.

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God almighty, people are very easily led on the internet :lol:
 

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Assuming this is the chart you're referring to it then the formula is complete nonsense - the losses they've calculated are the total capacity multiplied by the cost of a 'pint and pie'.

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Masi51 is obviously to young to drink - so that negates the Bolton figures too....
Barrow's capacity is either 6,400 or 6.600 after the work in the summer - not 5,045
and as for most of them pie and pint prices....
 

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Ours isn't too far out. I believe we budget for about £45k net income per home game once concessions factored in, VAT etc omitted.
 

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