Man City CEO calls for B teams to be allowed into the EFL

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I think in order to get the job in the first place you have to be a grade A certified c***.
They then put you through rigorous training at the FA school of mismanagement and cuntery before turning you loose upon the public.

Dominic Cummings would be perfect for the job. Recently unemployed, knows nothing about league football, willing to act in the interests of a few rich people to the detriment of all others. Surprised the bookies haven't had him odds on.
 

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I think in order to get the job in the first place you have to be a grade A certified c***.
They then put you through rigorous training at the FA school of mismanagement and cuntery before turning you loose upon the public.

Dominic Cummings would be perfect for the job. Recently unemployed, knows nothing about league football, willing to act in the interests of a few rich people to the detriment of all others. Surprised the bookies haven't had him odds on.
i think your fellow Exetonian Devon Lad fits all of the above criteria
 

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Saw someone say Greg Clarke reminded them of a character Greg Davies would play in a comedy. Bloke seemed totally out of touch.
 

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Can't recall where this came from but the Championship are apparently happy for the L1 and L2 to sort their own package out knowing that there's will end up being a bit more complex.

Sounds like the £50m offer is still there (£20m grant, £30m loans) but the EFL Club's have batted it back saying they can't afford to take on further loans and kick yet another can down the road, and they want no conditions attached to anything.
 

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Can't recall where this came from but the Championship are apparently happy for the L1 and L2 to sort their own package out knowing that there's will end up being a bit more complex.

Sounds like the £50m offer is still there (£20m grant, £30m loans) but the EFL Club's have batted it back saying they can't afford to take on further loans and kick yet another can down the road, and they want no conditions attached to anything.
Clubs are playing bluff.....If money is not forthcoming teams will not last through till christmas
 

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If clubs just wanted a loan they could go to other sources of capital, likely with more favourable repayment terms. Access to capital is relatively cheap at the moment.
Obviously the basket case clubs wont have this access because their accounts and routes to repayment are not visible (or even not realistic.) These same clubs are the ones also most at risk of the capital just disappearing into their private owners pockets.

It's a grant or nothing from our perspective. We dont need a loan with strings attached and if that's the only thing on the table from the FA and EPL, we will find other ways to survive.
 

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The EFL owing money to the Premier League is not a great position to be in imo.
 

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Where does it state 30m in loans? 20m in grants.......i have never seen this
 

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Where does it state 30m in loans? 20m in grants.......i have never seen this
Google it as its been widely reported. £20m wouldn't go very far across 48 clubs - £275k ish each in EFL2. As others above have said clubs could access loans elsewhere - it's just kicking the can. PL needs to get real.
 

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Google it as its been widely reported. £20m wouldn't go very far across 48 clubs - £275k ish each in EFL2. As others above have said clubs could access loans elsewhere - it's just kicking the can. PL needs to get real.
Not sure it'll quite work like that. It's for lost gate revenue so if it doesn't cover 100% of lost gate receipts it'll be, you'd imagine, a consistent percentage across all clubs so the money will vary.
 

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There needs to be enough money to keep clubs in business until the end of the season. PL are playing politics with the EFL for a while now and it could end up with fans disappointed and more people out of jobs.
 

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Not sure it'll quite work like that. It's for lost gate revenue so if it doesn't cover 100% of lost gate receipts it'll be, you'd imagine, a consistent percentage across all clubs so the money will vary.
Thanks didn't know that. Back of a fag packet maths, based on last season's average home crowds and County clear after tax etc an average of £13pp thru the turnstiles, would give us about £225k and someone like Bradford £825k. Well below our matchday EFL2 income of £1m+ across a season.
 

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If last night is anything to go by, B Teams/ Under 21s are utterly useless and would be a complete waste of time in the lower leagues. Even Southend might beat them.
 

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Oh look they are bailing out the rugger buggers and every other sport bar football. What. A. Surprise.
 

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Oh look they are bailing out the rugger buggers and every other sport bar football. What. A. Surprise.
I think they’re right not to bail out football, there’s more than enough money in the sport for clubs not to go bust. The issue is the Prem keeping too much cash and not pushing any down to us. Whether the government should force the Prem to push more down to us is another matter however - it would be great if somehow they could put that into law. But obvs bigger fish to fry right now so we’re all fucked.
 

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Oh look they are bailing out the rugger buggers and every other sport bar football. What. A. Surprise.
They’ve already agreed £1.57bn for the Arts.

So, any money from the PL would be from whatever stash they already have - they wouldn’t be asking each individual PL club for £2.5m?
 

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They’ve already agreed £1.57bn for the Arts.

So, any money from the PL would be from whatever stash they already have - they wouldn’t be asking each individual PL club for £2.5m?
why should the owners of Burnley and Leeds bail out Stoke and Salford????????
No easy solution
 

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I don’t think they will. I presume the money would come from the existing PL coffers. Anyway, this proposed £50m is only for L1/2 clubs - over half of which needs repaying. So, in essence, it’s a spit in the ocean.

It’s all very well people saying their owners are worth however many millions - that doesn’t mean they will, or should, spend it on their clubs. Their core businesses which help fund what is essentially a hobby, are much more important to them.
 

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I think the issue is people in the Government probably do think if players are earning so much or these top clubs are paying big fees then they have enough money to go and help out others but they claim they don’t.
 

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It's bollocks, the government saying that we can't have any cash because Man City have loads. It should be done purely on a business-by-business basis. We have lost x amount, so should be entitled to x amount of bailout money. It's stupid separating businesses by industry. Are McDonalds helping out the local burger bar? Are Coldplay covering the losses of the local professional wedding band?

We can all see it for what it is - they love rugger and the horses, therefore they get the cash.
 

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£28 million grant for non-league clubs but nothing for EFL ones.

 
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£28 million grant for non-league clubs but nothing for EFL ones.

The football is only the National league, nothing below that. Which is a shame
 

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Sack Parry and put Holloway in charge !!
 

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And it seems sadly a deal between EFL and the Premier league isn't that close.


But the government's Oliver Dowden said "a deal is close" just yesterday. Are you suggesting a Tory MP might be lying?!?!
 

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I don't think they really know tbh ...or probably care!

Premier league clubs won't want to give that much away as they "need" it for their latest multi million pound signing and new contract.

And I do feel people lump football clubs together as if they all get multi million deals and have players on 100k a week plus.

Some cannot just separate the Premier league to the rest of the football pyramid.

Then fans of these clubs go "well why should we bail out small lower league clubs because we don't care about them"
 
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I don't think they really know tbh ...or probably care!

Premier league clubs won't want to give that much away as they "need" it for their latest multi million pound signing and new contract.

And I do feel people lump football clubs together as if they all get multi million deals and have players on 100k a week plus.

Some cannot just separate the Premier league to the rest of the football pyramid.

Then fans of these clubs go "well why should be bail out small lower league clubs because we don't care about them"
A lot of supporters of PL clubs are glory hunters who know nothing about football. Tellyclappers.
 

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I don't think they really know tbh ...or probably care!

Premier league clubs won't want to give that much away as they "need" it for their latest multi million pound signing and new contract.

And I do feel people lump football clubs together as if they all get multi million deals and have players on 100k a week plus.

Some cannot just separate the Premier league to the rest of the football pyramid.

Then fans of these clubs go "well why should we bail out small lower league clubs because we don't care about them"
Do you not have players on 100k in the championship???
You get parachute money also surely you are not stating watford should receive more money??
 

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Do you not have players on 100k in the championship???
You get parachute money also surely you are not stating watford should receive more money??
No - I don’t think we should.

Thinking about league one and two clubs.
 

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No - I don’t think we should.

Thinking about league one and two clubs.
This should be negotiated when television contracts are awarded..Do lge 1 and 2 negotiate in these talks are they just fed crumbs??.....I honestly dont know
 

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