Marcus Rashford

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For exactly the same reason I'll not claim Everton won't forever be in Liverpool's shadow. Namely that it would be a lie. :hypo:
how can we be in your shadow when we gave birth to you :hypo:
 

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i think he is too young he will sink or swim and thats too much of a risk...............still less of a risk than Sturridge's fingernails.
I expect Welbeck to be the 4th striker, should one of the 4 get injured then it will come down to how Strurridge has been or giving Rashford the experience and using in a last case situation.
 

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Both him and Rashford scored against Villa.
 

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I think Rashford should go to the euros, because he's just so in-form his confidence will be through the roof, therefore meaning very decent performances and goals.


He won't though, Andy Carroll or somebody else ridiculous will.
 

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He's been excellent.

Quick, skillful, composed and knows where the net is. He'll have a very bright future if he's properly developed. Already has proven himself to enjoy the big games also.
 

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Why the rush and demand to get him to the Euro's? England have enough options up front this time around; let him develop more and if he continues as he has started he will get opportunities in the world cup qualifiers soon after.
 

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Why the rush and demand to get him to the Euro's? England have enough options up front this time around; let him develop more and if he continues as he has started he will get opportunities in the world cup qualifiers soon after.
Same always happens if a young talented player appears just before a major comp, similar with Walcott when he was young except they did take him on that occasion.
 

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I expect Welbeck to be the 4th striker, should one of the 4 get injured then it will come down to how Strurridge has been or giving Rashford the experience and using in a last case situation.
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Why the rush and demand to get him to the Euro's? England have enough options up front this time around; let him develop more and if he continues as he has started he will get opportunities in the world cup qualifiers soon after.
i agree with Salty bit early
 

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Any other year and he'd be going with the fans' backing as an unpredictable threat off the bench. Fortunately for us there's enough competition up top for someone good to be left out of the starting 11. There aren't enough spaces for Rashford, his only chance is filling in an injury.
 

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Why are people saying 'he's not ready' but it's being presumed as a certainty that Alli will be in the squad? There's not even a year separating the two age wise.

We've absolutely nothing to lose by taking Rashford, it will only be beneficial in the long term. I'd love Roy to have the bollocks to drop someone like Welbeck and take a gamble on Rashford - if it went well he'd reap the rewards you'd imagine.
 

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Why are people saying 'he's not ready' but it's being presumed as a certainty that Alli will be in the squad? There's not even a year separating the two age wise.

We've absolutely nothing to lose by taking Rashford, it will only be beneficial in the long term. I'd love Roy to have the bollocks to drop someone like Welbeck and take a gamble on Rashford - if it went well he'd reap the rewards you'd imagine.
i'd take Welbeck cos he can play on the wing...........he's fast as anything and has a bit more experience in important games.
 

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Rashford wasn't even in England U19s before the season started (was a backup striker for the U18s).. Yes he could have developed very quickly in the year, but there's nothing to say this isn't just a good run of form.

What Alli has is consistency, he's been excellent for 2-3 years now.

Also I hate when players get everything thrown at them when they're only 19.. Gives them very little else to aim for in their careers.
 

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i'd take Welbeck cos he can play on the wing...........he's fast as anything and has a bit more experience in important games.
Experience in what? We've never done anything in past squads he's been in.

There's nothing to lose with taking a young kid with seemingly massive potential who has burst onto the scene and is playing with exuberance and confidence.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has Rashford not played on the wing for United as well? I'd take a gamble and get him in that squad. I wouldn't start him, but the opportunity for him to be in an England squad at such a young age is fantastic, and he'll be a great option from the bench. Absolutely nothing to lose.
 

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Experience in what? We've never done anything in past squads he's been in.

14 goals in 34 games is a very good return for a player who's mostly been used out wide. I'm not sure where all this revisionism is coming from. Welbeck has been one of the few England players who's performed as well or better for England than he does for his club.
 

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Rashford wasn't even in England U19s before the season started (was a backup striker for the U18s).. Yes he could have developed very quickly in the year, but there's nothing to say this isn't just a good run of form.

What Alli has is consistency, he's been excellent for 2-3 years now.

Also I hate when players get everything thrown at them when they're only 19.. Gives them very little else to aim for in their careers.
And if he continues this good run of form into the euros, he'll come good for England.
 

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And if he continues this good run of form into the euros, he'll come good for England.
Or it's a step too far too early for him. Like Luke Freeman and the Championship.
 

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I think he should be prepared for back up. I'd go with Kane, Vardy, Sturridge and Rashford however we all know Rooney will definitely go.

If he does go then I'm sure the media will be all over it, questioning it, then he won't play a minute, then the media will question why he went, kinda like when Walcott went when he was 18.

He's looking very good, I'd like to see him do it over a longer stretch of time though it's a shame that he hasn't had all season to prove himself. He's probably the only bright spark to come out of United's season.
 

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Well, he'd compete with Vardy and Sturridge for his spot in the squad. Not the other guys that are wide options.
 

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Or it's a step too far too early for him. Like Luke Freeman and the Championship.
Freeman's 25 mate, it's hardly a direct comparison, he just looks a shadow of his former self with less time on the ball. This won't be the case for Rashford - he's played against City, Arsenal etc - I don't think the young lad would have problems putting Wales & Slovakia to the sword.
 

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He is way too young imo to go to Euros. Let him get more experience both with the club and country at lower level. He is hardly in a form where he has a chance of finishing as top scorer at the Euros! I could understand if it was friendlies.
 

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He is way too young imo to go to Euros.
He's only a year and a bit younger than Alli who's set to be one of our key players at the Euros.

If we take him he's only going to be backup to the likes of Vardy, Kane, Sturridge, Rooney and Welbeck so there's not much point really (although at United there's no way Rooney would lead the line over Rashford at the minute). But if he did go it wouldn't phase him at all, he's full of confidence and as JJH alluded to he's scoring regularly and playing well against better sides than we're going to meet in our group at the Euros. Maybe if Henderson and Wilshere are unavailable we could take Rooney as a midfielder (a position he'd be more useful in imo) and Rashford as a wildcard.
 

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He's only a year and a bit younger than Alli who's set to be one of our key players at the Euros.

If we take him he's only going to be backup to the likes of Vardy, Kane, Sturridge, Rooney and Welbeck so there's not much point really (although at United there's no way Rooney would lead the line over Rashford at the minute). But if he did go it wouldn't phase him at all, he's full of confidence and as JJH alluded to he's scoring regularly and playing well against better sides than we're going to meet in our group at the Euros. Maybe if Henderson and Wilshere are unavailable we could take Rooney as a midfielder (a position he'd be more useful in imo) and Rashford as a wildcard.
Still too many strikers. I could understand if England midfield was loaded. Without henderson and Wilshere the midfield will be light. At the moment Dier is the only player guaranteed and good enough to start for England CM position. This also means Milner and Drinkwater will go. Alli will probably play behind Kane. Welbeck wide. Vardy will probably start along side Kane or play the remaining wide position. That leaves Sturridge and Rooney on bench. I don't think Rashford will be picked ahead of Sturridge coming off bench. If Studge gets injured before Euros then Rashford has to go.

Having said that (after looking at the squad) , taking Rashford for Walcott wouldn't be such a bad idea. Also, if Rooney is going as an attacking midfielder I would drop Barkley and take Noble.
 

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Unless he manages to get injured again, Wilshere should be fit for the Euros. He's played a few U21 games for Arsenal and should get some game time on the weekend.
 

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All these "too young" posts are a load of bs imo. It's based on quality (and a couple of other things), not age.
 

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If anyone gets left behind of the current group it's Sturridge (Barring Injuries) as he's the worst performer of all our strikers when in an england shirt and no way will roy do that. Let the kid have a summer off and continue to develop. If he starts next season well then bring him into the squad. Might be tempted to have him on the stand by list though

Surely the U21's must have a few games he can play in?
 

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I'm not saying Rashford is too young but he's played what, 13 games? To all those saying he's only a bit younger than Alli, the difference is that Alli has performed brilliantly throughout the entire season.

Kane and Vardy are the obvious first choice with Rooney and Sturridge as second. Welbeck will probably be taken to go on the wing and FWIW, I would take Andy Carroll, purely because he provides something different.
 

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Every time Caroll touches a football recently, all I read about in the papers is whether Hodgson will take him. He shouldnt go based on a short period of good football. I'd have Sturridge before him myself, backed up by the stats (7 goals in 11 games for Sturridge, 9 goals in 23 games for Carroll).
 

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The words 'young' and 'experience' often become synonymous when talking about football, in the same way 'history' and 'success' do when people are looking to score cheap points.

If you genuinely can't see what separates Dele Alli and Marcus Rashford in terms of experience, rather than age, then you're probably ill qualified to select the England squad.

Whilst Rashford has been a clinical finisher, it's too soon to take him over Rooney or Sturridge. And if Alli isn't the first name on the teamsheet, you may as well call me Claas Van Der Vrijnder.
 

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If you genuinely can't see what separates Dele Alli and Marcus Rashford in terms of experience, rather than age, then you're probably ill qualified to select the England squad.
If this is aimed at me then then I was replying to someone who said Rashford was "far too young" not "far too inexperienced". Obviously Alli is by far more along in his development than Rashford, he's been playing against men for the past 3 seasons.
 

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