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You misunderstand me. I was not having a pop, I was saying - if I was a Bolton fan, and the aspiration is to get the prem and aim for 17th every season and be a small club in that league, then what is the point ? Is it not better to be down here winning games and having more fun ? It’s an observation. I’m sure west brom
And Watford fans are bored silly with trying to stay up season.
And we have played Barcelona anyway. Ok, so it was behind closed doors at St. George’s as a kick about - but hey that is as good as it gets.
Good question, had great times in the prem and Europe but we hit a wall so Allardyce walked
When you come close to liquidation it is just about re-building.
Like anything in life you take the rough with the smooth..............Would hate to win or lose every week

A rollercoaster is much better than a even keel
 

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You misunderstand me. I was not having a pop, I was saying - if I was a Bolton fan, and the aspiration is to get the prem and aim for 17th every season and be a small club in that league, then what is the point ? Is it not better to be down here winning games and having more fun ? It’s an observation. I’m sure west brom
And Watford fans are bored silly with trying to stay up season.
And we have played Barcelona anyway. Ok, so it was behind closed doors at St. George’s as a kick about - but hey that is as good as it gets.
Some of us have even beaten Barcelona in European competition. Twice.

‘As our chant goes… they came from Rotterdam, St Ettienne, Aberdeen and Rome… Madrid, Barcelona but we never lost at home’. Makes me think I was alive at the wrong time watching us play and beat these teams at Portman Road for years. Never losing a European home tie in 31 matches is quite the achievement and one that will never be matched by another English team.
 

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Some of us have even beaten Barcelona in European competition. Twice.

‘As our chant goes… they came from Rotterdam, St Ettienne, Aberdeen and Rome… Madrid, Barcelona but we never lost at home’. Makes me think I was alive at the wrong time watching us play and beat these teams at Portman Road for years. Never losing a European home tie in 31 matches is quite the achievement and one that will never be matched by another English team.
We have never lost at home in Europe....But we never ever will win the Champions League
 
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We are unbeaten at home in European Competition (en route to the final which we lost sadly).
 

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Looks like Sheffield Wednesday fans are being filtered to drink only in the City Centre (Hanley) and one pub on the road to Tunstall, so looks as though no away fans to be allowed into pubs in Burslem.
 

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I think in fairness the dickwaving on European fixtures goes to Ipswich and perhaps Bolton. The rest of us are clutching at straws.

Although I did see Suarez and messi on the Barcelona team coach go through our village back from St George’s and it stopped at the co-op when they got off for a drink.
Some bloke in a suit had to pay for them. They stood there looking gormless by the till. I thought about paying for them, then I thought fuck em.

Surely that trumps the lot of you.
 

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Anglo Italian cup is on a parr with the Stoke Sunday league
Still Europe! Was some decent sides in it to be fair, the Genoa side that did us in the final were very good. Vincenzo Montella obviously the stand out.
 

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Still Europe! Was some decent sides in it to be fair, the Genoa side that did us in the final were very good. Vincenzo Montella obviously the stand out.
I think you are clutching at straws.
Champions league and europa league are the only European competitions that have any kudos.
And perhaps the old cup winners cup.
 

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I'll have you know the we've played in the Welsh Cup - unlike Shrewsbury (6 times!!!!), Hereford, Chester and Tranmere, we never won it though.
 

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I think you are clutching at straws.
Champions league and europa league are the only European competitions that have any kudos.
And perhaps the old cup winners cup.
4th biggest European Competition at the time!
 

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I think in fairness the dickwaving on European fixtures goes to Ipswich and perhaps Bolton. The rest of us are clutching at straws.

Although I did see Suarez and messi on the Barcelona team coach go through our village back from St George’s and it stopped at the co-op when they got off for a drink.
Some bloke in a suit had to pay for them. They stood there looking gormless by the till. I thought about paying for them, then I thought fuck em.

Surely that trumps the lot of you.
Derby reached the semis of the European cup in 1973
 

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Anglo Italian cup is on a parr with the Stoke Sunday league

The original AIC was created off the back of us (and QPR in 1967) winning the league Cup as a third tier side and we weren't allowed to compete in the Fairs Cup. We were 'compensated' with a two legged match against Roma who had won the Coppa Italia that season. That in turn spawned the first AIC in 1970, containing 6 English sides and 6 Italian sides. Split into groups. The final was then contested between the highest performing sides from each country. We beat Napoli 3-0 in the final, held in Italy. (Abandoned after 79 minutes due to crowd trouble, the Italians started to throw parts of the stadium onto the pitch!!)

Blackpool beat Bologna in 71, Roma beat Blackpool in 72 and Newcastle beat Fiorentina in 73. It was then sacked off due to lack of interest, but reintroduced in 76 as a semi professional tournament and then in 92-93 re-established in the guise most fans remember nowadays. Initially it was intriguing but I remember crowds were very poor. I went to a game at the County Ground where the ground seemed sparse (I just checked it was Brentford in 92 in front of 3,819 paying spectators).
 

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The original AIC was created off the back of us (and QPR in 1967) winning the league Cup as a third tier side and we weren't allowed to compete in the Fairs Cup. We were 'compensated' with a two legged match against Roma who had won the Coppa Italia that season. That in turn spawned the first AIC in 1970, containing 6 English sides and 6 Italian sides. Split into groups. The final was then contested between the highest performing sides from each country. We beat Napoli 3-0 in the final, held in Italy. (Abandoned after 79 minutes due to crowd trouble, the Italians started to throw parts of the stadium onto the pitch!!)

Blackpool beat Bologna in 71, Roma beat Blackpool in 72 and Newcastle beat Fiorentina in 73. It was then sacked off due to lack of interest, but reintroduced in 76 as a semi professional tournament and then in 92-93 re-established in the guise most fans remember nowadays. Initially it was intriguing but I remember crowds were very poor. I went to a game at the County Ground where the ground seemed sparse (I just checked it was Brentford in 92 in front of 3,819 paying spectators).
We once played that Great Italian Team Particko Thistleo in said competition.........Tinpot
 

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The original AIC was created off the back of us (and QPR in 1967) winning the league Cup as a third tier side and we weren't allowed to compete in the Fairs Cup. We were 'compensated' with a two legged match against Roma who had won the Coppa Italia that season. That in turn spawned the first AIC in 1970, containing 6 English sides and 6 Italian sides. Split into groups. The final was then contested between the highest performing sides from each country. We beat Napoli 3-0 in the final, held in Italy. (Abandoned after 79 minutes due to crowd trouble, the Italians started to throw parts of the stadium onto the pitch!!)

Blackpool beat Bologna in 71, Roma beat Blackpool in 72 and Newcastle beat Fiorentina in 73. It was then sacked off due to lack of interest, but reintroduced in 76 as a semi professional tournament and then in 92-93 re-established in the guise most fans remember nowadays. Initially it was intriguing but I remember crowds were very poor. I went to a game at the County Ground where the ground seemed sparse (I just checked it was Brentford in 92 in front of 3,819 paying spectators).
Its a shame the rise of Ryanair didnt happen in time for it... these unknown places in Italy you can fly to such as Ancona or Perugia were in it and could probably have got there for a tenner each way!
 

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Its a shame the rise of Ryanair didnt happen in time for it... these unknown places in Italy you can fly to such as Ancona or Perugia were in it and could probably have got there for a tenner each way!

That's very true!
 

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We once played that Great Italian Team Particko Thistleo in said competition.........Tinpot

I assume you are talking about the Anglo-Scottish Cup rather than the Anglo-Italian?

I've just realised this is the Saturday match day thread which has gone wildly off kilter. Also completely irrelevant to us as we're in the fantastic league below.
 
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Should be a good crowd of potentially 12 or 13k which would be quite good for us.

I think we've got to hope that Wednesday come with an attitude of just turning up and winning. If they play anywhere near their best, they'll win comfortably.

My one ray of hope is that I don't rate Darren Moore at all. He comes across as a bit thick...if he was manager of Burton I would have marked them down as relegation certainties at the beginning of the season. Let's face it, anyone on this board would be able to get top 6 with this Wednesday squad but I'm not sure whether Moore has the nous if things start going badly.
 

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My one ray of hope is that I don't rate Darren Moore at all. He comes across as a bit thick...if he was manager of Burton I would have marked them down as relegation certainties at the beginning of the season. Let's face it, anyone on this board would be able to get top 6 with this Wednesday squad but I'm not sure whether Moore has the nous if things start going badly.

Don’t agree with a lot of things you write about us but I do with this. Whilst I’m sure he’s not as thick as his “errrmm yeah” interviews come across, we do lack a clear style of play or a Plan B.

Another concern is for a man who spent most of his career in the top 2 divisions as a centre half, it’s worrying he’s not been able to make us really solid at the back despite having 3 transfer windows.
 

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Tykes at home this weekend, one of the greatest ever centre forwards came from Barnsley. A certain Mr Tommy Taylor signed by Man Utd for £29999. Michael Parkinson and Dickie Bird I believe all lived in the same area, so you Barnsley fans is that right ? Expect them to bring around 1000 so that should swell the gate nicely. I dont think we have ever beaten them at home, we've won away at their place but everything points to another draw ( this would be an excellent result ). 1-1
 

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Tykes at home this weekend, one of the greatest ever centre forwards came from Barnsley. A certain Mr Tommy Taylor signed by Man Utd for £29999. Michael Parkinson and Dickie Bird I believe all lived in the same area, so you Barnsley fans is that right ? Expect them to bring around 1000 so that should swell the gate nicely. I dont think we have ever beaten them at home, we've won away at their place but everything points to another draw ( this would be an excellent result ). 1-1

Greatest ever centre half from Barnsley too
 

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Should be a good crowd of potentially 12 or 13k which would be quite good for us.

I think we've got to hope that Wednesday come with an attitude of just turning up and winning. If they play anywhere near their best, they'll win comfortably.

My one ray of hope is that I don't rate Darren Moore at all. He comes across as a bit thick...if he was manager of Burton I would have marked them down as relegation certainties at the beginning of the season. Let's face it, anyone on this board would be able to get top 6 with this Wednesday squad but I'm not sure whether Moore has the nous if things start going badly.
Ironically big Dave used to play for us. Was a decent defender back in the day but never struck me as manager material.
 

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We are also unbeaten at home in Europe. Ancelotti's AC Milan tried their best but weren't good enough. Line up included Ronaldinho, Shevchenko, Pirlo, Kaka, Seedorf and Inzaghi. We shouldn't really have been there, frankly.
 

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We are also unbeaten at home in Europe. Ancelotti's AC Milan tried their best but weren't good enough. Line up included Ronaldinho, Shevchenko, Pirlo, Kaka, Seedorf and Inzaghi. We shouldn't really have been there, frankly.

Do you ever think seeing players of that calibre at Fratton Park and the memories from that era were worth the downfall?
 

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Most clubs in this league have probably never lost at home in European competition.

Our record was the longest in Europe for over 40 years, beaten by AZ Almaar who were eventually beaten in 2007 by Everton.

Ours is 31 home games. One of the most recent being Inter Milan in 2001. A record to be proud of as a club.

Although, in the non-uefa Europe competition Anglo-Italian cup, we did lose one game to Port Vale
 

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The original AIC was created off the back of us (and QPR in 1967) winning the league Cup as a third tier side and we weren't allowed to compete in the Fairs Cup. We were 'compensated' with a two legged match against Roma who had won the Coppa Italia that season. That in turn spawned the first AIC in 1970, containing 6 English sides and 6 Italian sides. Split into groups. The final was then contested between the highest performing sides from each country. We beat Napoli 3-0 in the final, held in Italy. (Abandoned after 79 minutes due to crowd trouble, the Italians started to throw parts of the stadium onto the pitch!!)

Blackpool beat Bologna in 71, Roma beat Blackpool in 72 and Newcastle beat Fiorentina in 73. It was then sacked off due to lack of interest, but reintroduced in 76 as a semi professional tournament and then in 92-93 re-established in the guise most fans remember nowadays. Initially it was intriguing but I remember crowds were very poor. I went to a game at the County Ground where the ground seemed sparse (I just checked it was Brentford in 92 in front of 3,819 paying spectators).
I remember seeing us beat Juventus 4-0 at the County Ground!!!!
 
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